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Compensation after stealing accusation and tripping in a club

Afroshack

A Dublin woman has received 20K and been prescribed antidepressants for being accused of shoplifting.

Another woman was offered 18K for tripping off a step.

Link to the first story here

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dublin-hairdresser-29-awarded-20000-in-damages-against-mothercare-uk-for-defamation-30380416.html

Link to the second

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/woman-awarded-almost-18000-in-damages-after-fall-in-dublin-nightclub-30384038.html

Is this for real? I got stopped and searched in Tesco's last week as they thought I had taken something. Turns out they made a mistake, apologised and we all went our merry way. Not to mention the many, many times I have tripped over something in a nightclub. Can anyone explain to me how these compensation amounts are awarded?! On what planet does being accused of shoplifting win you that amount?

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desultory

Did you even read the article?

o1s1n

I find it odd that you were wrongly accused of shop lifting and didn't make a scene?

michael999999

I bet you had the stuff hidden in your hair!

hynesie08

Is this for real? I got stopped and searched in Tesco's last week as they thought I had taken something. Turns out they made a mistake, apologised and we all went our merry way.

This never really happened did it?

crockholm

Ah Dublin, a tripping/falling over based economy if ever there was one

Afroshack

hynesie08 wrote: »

This never really happened did it?

Yes, but the alarms did go off when I was leaving, thankfully the items were well concealed

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

You let supermarket security staff search you? I would in my ass, I'd show them a receipt or something without any bother, but no way would I voluntarily turn out my pockets for them. Accuse me if you like lads, but make sure you're right!

hynesie08

Afroshack wrote: »

Yes, but the alarms did go off when I was leaving, thankfully the items were well concealed

Thought so, never happened.

tayto lover

There are some very scary stories under that article in the first link OP.
Very scary indeed.

suicide_circus

Anti depressants and sleeping tablets because someone wrongly accused you of shoplifting..................

BMJD

suicide_circus wrote: »

Anti depressants and sleeping tablets because someone wrongly accused you of shoplifting..................

Cold hard cash cured it. ..whoda thunk it

the_syco

Afroshack wrote: »

Another woman was offered 18K for tripping off a step.

Link to the first story here

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/dublin-hairdresser-29-awarded-20000-in-damages-against-mothercare-uk-for-defamation-30380416.html

Barrister Michael Vallely, counsel for Ms Kearns, told the Circuit Civil Court she had since been treated for depression and had only recently been put on a reduced dose of antidepressants.

She must be fairly fragile if she had to be put on antidepressants after the incident. I'd wonder if the solicitor rather than a doctor given her that idea?:rolleyes:

Afroshack wrote: »

Link to the second

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/woman-awarded-almost-18000-in-damages-after-fall-in-dublin-nightclub-30384038.html

Can't see any problem with this. Although most nightclubs usually turn up the lights to signal people to get out, it sounds like a fuse tripped, and the backup lightening was insufficient. It's lucky more people weren't injured.

[Deleted User]

If someone stopped me and accused me of stealing, I'd probably be so shocked that I wouldn't make a scene at the time either.

Damn right they should pay compensation, they accused a person of theft in a busy store during a sale and sullied her good character and they shouldn't get away with flinging those accusations at people.

The alternative is that bad security staff could ruin a persons reputation and even falsely imprison them with an accusation of something that they have no evidence of. The woman had receipts.

The Tallaght one, I'm not so sure. Public places have a responsibility to be safe for patrons, and if the area she fell off the step in is unlit and she didn't see it, then she was injured through no fault of her own and it's proper they should pay damages as they didn't keep their premises safely lit for patrons.

131spanner

Daughters birthday or not, a 64 year old shouldn't be in a night-club

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

I can't see anything wrong with either of those two cases, apart from the dubious nature of the shoplifting accused's injuries.

Security staff have to be 100% certain any shoplifter still has the goods on them when they detain them, or they're leaving themselves open to a claim. It's why shoplifters often work in pairs, so if searched they've often handed the goods to an accomplice.

In the nightclub case an independent engineer found the lighting to be inadequate. End of story.

My name is URL

Afroshack wrote: »

Is this for real? I got stopped and searched in Tesco's last week as they thought I had taken something. Turns out they made a mistake, apologised and we all went our merry way.

Mistake or not, you're a bigger fool for being okay about being searched in a very public place by someone with absolutely no authority to do so.

desultory

My name is URL wrote: »

Mistake or not, you're a bigger fool for being okay about being searched in a very public place by someone with absolutely no authority to do so.

It didn't happen though

Greenmachine

Sound like the lady accused of shoplifting deliberately made a scene and exaggerated the impact of the accusation to rile up sympathy in the judge.

[Deleted User]

And the security spat at her? Why does anyone have a problem with this?

A public place leaves steps unlit and when someone gets injured they're supposed to just shrug their shoulders?

There's far dodgier cases for compensation to be found out there than these two.

[Deleted User]

Greenmachine wrote: »

Sound like the lady accused of shoplifting deliberately made a scene and exaggerated the impact of the accusation to rile up sympathy in the judge.

The judge has seen and heard it all, and described this as a serious case of defamation. I see no reason to doubt them.

Galwayguy35

Candie wrote: »

And the security spat at her? Why does anyone have a problem with this?

A public place leaves steps unlit and when someone gets injured they're supposed to just shrug their shoulders?

There's far dodgier cases for compensation to be found out there than these two.

That's just her saying her spat her though, we don't know if this is true or not.

[Deleted User]

Candie wrote: »

And the security spat at her? Why does anyone have a problem with this?

No he didn't.

Candie wrote: »

The judge has seen and heard it all, and described this as a serious case of defamation. I see no reason to doubt them.

Funny how when a judge does something one agrees with one has no reason to doubt the judgement.

hynesie08

Greenmachine wrote: »

Sound like the lady accused of shoplifting deliberately made a scene and exaggerated the impact of the accusation to rile up sympathy in the judge.

Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Most people don't stay calm in that situation.

Greenmachine

Candie wrote: »

The judge has seen and heard it all, and described this as a serious case of defamation. I see no reason to doubt them.

The judiciary in this country are a joke. Unless you are particularly knowledgeable on the particular judge how can you say with any confidence he has seen it all.

col.in.Cr

http://youtu.be/jrwjiO1MCVs

Greenmachine

hynesie08 wrote: »

Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Most people don't stay calm in that situation.

Security Guard: Have you paid for that.
Me: Yes I have the receipt in my wallet.
Security Guard: Okay that's grand

hynesie08

Greenmachine wrote: »

Security Guard: Have you paid for that.
Me: Yes I have the receipt in my wallet.
Security Guard: Okay that's grand

5 mins later

"that **** after calling me a thief."

Also that'd be one ****e security guard.

[Deleted User]

hynesie08 wrote: »

Ever been accused of something you didn't do? Most people don't stay calm in that situation.

I usually calm down before I need anti-depressants.

hynesie08

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I usually calm down before I need anti-depressants.

I'm talking the immediate aftermath, besides I'm guessing neither of us are qualified to diagnose depression.

MacBizzle

the_syco wrote: »

She must be fairly fragile if she had to be put on antidepressants after the incident. I'd wonder if the solicitor rather than a doctor given her that idea?:rolleyes:.

The smallest things can throw people over the edge, it's not fair to comment on it without knowing the full details. For all we know she could have went through a traumatic experience in the days previous, which would explain the reaction.