bluetop wrote: » the first thing that will happen is one of the Inspectors will stand up and make an announcement, dont ask questions about the following radios, powers, we know as much as you do and its been asked before many times, try and come up with new questions. yet that are really the only questions we need answered why have we done the training and still not got them, why have we not been issued with radios as part of our equipment despite there been an abundance of them, at the end of the day regardless of what any person on here or in any station think, we are a rank under the Garda Siochana act 2005 and as such should be given personal issue radios, and not pool ones that you spend half the night looking for a working one, under health & Safety it should come as part of your PPE. i would suggest to people attending if they do say the above make a point of bringing it up at each table, if every table brings it up and nothing else then they will have to do something, if people sit back and say nothing well then put up with the problems.
mfergus wrote: » I can understand the fact people want / need the powers but why do people want a personal issue radio so badly? What's wrong with getting one at the start of your shift and returning it at the end? For reserves it makes more sense to have a pool system. Otherwise there be 1000 radios used for a couple of hours a month and left in a locker for the remaining time?
bluetop wrote: » first off there are roughly 3000 radios left in boxes doing nothing so why not issue them same way as your other PPE is issued, they they prefer to leave them doing diddly squat then issue them, same could be said about your uniform, cuffs, pepper spray, batton, so whats the difference, and as one person has said trying to get a raidio if there is a few GR on at the same time is like trying to find a needle, and as i have been told by the skipper on many occasions the person you get a loan of a radio is responsible for it hence the reluctance to share
Santa Cruz wrote: » This just highlights the whole haphazard approach to the Reserves. It's not going to change unless Reserve members make it change.
Yogi Bear wrote: » Any news how meeting on Saturday went??
Scouser wrote: » they have all been full of fire and brimstone from what I have heard first step to change
Yogi Bear wrote: » Is there going to be an announcement about our powers on the 8th Sep when the new recruits startin Templemore ??
Yogi Bear wrote: » Not heard anything, but at a recent meeting we were told the powers were imminent and with new recruits going in to Templemore, what a perfect opportunity to release them to us
Mc Jakester wrote: » If you did the up skill course, you should know.
gilly2308 wrote: » In fairness to call it 'a course' is a bit of a joke, more of a day out in Templemore if truth be told.
tg123 wrote: » I thought it was very informative , gave us a better idea as to when we should use the new powers and more importantly when we should exercise discretion. My brother was on a different day and he found it the same .
Mountain Man wrote: » Have to agree with.gilly 2308 on this, it could have been sent to us all on a PDF. The final advice given ,about using our new powers, when we get them, was truly bizarre!!
bluetop wrote: » Ha ha ha ha you just have to love them now when you get your powers "dont" use them let the full timers do the work pmsl great advice from the team leaders. "Not"
tg123 wrote: » I thought it was a sensible piece of advice , after all if you make the arrest you need to be prepared to go to court. Made sense to me . My brother was involved in a couple of incidents and had to take the time out of work to attend as a witness. So the instructors are highlighting the pit falls for those Reserves who make an arrest when it may be a more sensible approach to let the full time member do it. Of course this does not take into account a situation where each member has a prisoner , you may have no choice in the matter.
bluetop wrote: » You knew when you signed up that you might have to go to court, its all part and parcel of what you do, its also another reason the FT dont want reserves with them as they cant do nothing, if the powers were granted then you could do your bit as well and not just sit pretty in yellow in the back of the car, or walk around like what was it the GRA said ...... ohh yes a scarecrow and having to be babysat. you are either in it to pull your weight and take your duties seriously or standby and let others do all the work, which is the main reason the garda reserves dont work, its like having your cake and eating it.
gilly2308 wrote: » Fair point bluetop and in all fairness I can't argue with most of what you say, however the fact that we have to be 'babysat' or are seen as 'scarecrows' by some full-timers is not our fault, it's the fault of spineless, gutless management who don't have the will or the balls to give the Garda Reserve the teeth it deserves. I have been saying for years that the Garda Reserve serves little or no purpose in it's present guise, so either give us proper responsibilities and fit for purpose powers, or scrap the Reserve altogether. A proper two year training programme should be brought in, something akin to the Special Constabulary where after two years of intense monitoring and training you must have attained IPS (Independent Patrol Status), otherwise you're kicked out. You would then up with well trained dedicated Reserves who are an actual asset to the Gardai, rather than the current situation of 1300 poorly trained Reserves, only half of whom actually turn up with any regularity, and the other half who are just totally disillusioned with the the whole situation. The current situation is not of our making, but we are being hung out to dry by totally inept management and the GRA who will never accept the Reserve, and only grudgingly accept us once we have little or no powers or responsibilities.
tg123 wrote: » All good points and one would expect that senior managers took some of the comments made at the recent Reserve meetings back to the Commissioner. Who knows she may even be listening to her son who is a current serving reserve.
bluetop wrote: » Now you are making me laugh, how long are you a reserve member if you dont mind me asking, if the last meeting are anything like the ones years ago they will come and go, the papers written on might make good bedding for the dog after its been shredded.
Yogi Bear wrote: » I see the Commissioner and Justice Minister were in Templemore today to welcome the new recruits. There is nothing in the media about us getting our new power. We will never see them id say at this stage.
Yogi Bear wrote: » https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2014-11-05a.284&s=garda+reserve Frances Fitzgerald (Minister, Department of Justice and Equality; Dublin Mid West, Fine Gael) I am informed by the Commissioner that the training of all the Garda Reserve in the new powers will be completed shortly. Longest training course i have ever heard. Two years and still going...........................
