New Leap Visitor's Card

It's valid on the 747. So, that's potentially €10 worth of value straight away. I think it's a little on the pricey side, closer to €15 would have been nice*. Uptake will give an indication of whether the price is right. It's a welcome initiative all the same.

*Tack on dublin bikes (with a suitable security deposit) and I think €19.50 would be about right.

Its amazing value! The same service would cost a regular commuter €30 without including the Airlink.

afatbollix

Great value. I'll be taking it when I arrive in the summer. Its the handyness of not needing to even think about what you have left on your card.

Mrs OBumble

Stevek101 wrote: »

Its amazing value! The same service would cost a regular commuter €30 without including the Airlink.

+1

I can see some regular commuters making a special trip out to the airport to collect one, unless it's only available in the secure zone or with a boarding pass.

In addition they've launched a card for summer students. The Leap Trainee Card will be available to trainees through their language schools and directly from Dublin Bus, in 1-week, 2-week, 3-week and 4-week versions (Priced at €46.50, €70.00, €94.00 and €119.00 respectively). Similar to the Leap Visitor card, it will allow foreign students travel on Luas, DART, Iarnród Éireann’s short-hop zone and on Dublin Bus.

Again this would cost average commuter 40, 80, 120 and 160 so a massive reduction. However, I'd imagine the use of this card will be restricted.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

+1

I can see some regular commuters making a special trip out to the airport to collect one, unless it's only available in the secure zone or with a boarding pass.

It'll be sold in Spar T1/2 arrivals and at the CIE desk in T1 all on the landside. Definitely be worth the trip out.

pclive

This should be in bargain alerts, great value.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

+1

I can see some regular commuters making a special trip out to the airport to collect one, unless it's only available in the secure zone or with a boarding pass.

Firstly, it's only 8 euro below the weekly cap for Leap anyway*. Secondly, taxsaver is a lot cheaper surely.

*EDIT: 1 euro saving versus 3 daily caps on Leap. https://www.leapcard.ie/en/PageSetting/ContentViewer.aspx?Val=T/HcRN0lgkhyO2TJbCpdXbpkQ6D59bgR9MwK7i5q52U2rfQVZcNw%2BAb2e13wL37V62K83icu4wP/KxugVQHB8/tfq8sS44StQmsdGiKYqRWG4lf%2Bgc7EYaq1dJckxC1SOs8Oi5WHyaggCxyPdGXNqCkz6KJl/C2vRG9pBSEkDcc%3D Not a bargain alert.

Not everyone can get a tax saver people often seem to forget that.

ballooba wrote: »

Firstly, it's only 8 euro below the weekly cap for Leap anyway*. Secondly, taxsaver is a lot cheaper surely.

*EDIT: 1 euro saving versus 3 daily caps on Leap. https://www.leapcard.ie/en/PageSetting/ContentViewer.aspx?Val=T/HcRN0lgkhyO2TJbCpdXbpkQ6D59bgR9MwK7i5q52U2rfQVZcNw%2BAb2e13wL37V62K83icu4wP/KxugVQHB8/tfq8sS44StQmsdGiKYqRWG4lf%2Bgc7EYaq1dJckxC1SOs8Oi5WHyaggCxyPdGXNqCkz6KJl/C2vRG9pBSEkDcc%3D Not a bargain alert.

This is not just Dublin Bus it is all operators. Cap is €10 a day also doesn't include the Airlink.

Stevek101 wrote: »

This is not just Dublin Bus it is all operators. Cap is €10 a day also doesn't include the Airlink.

Just noticed that, thanks. I think it's decent value and it probably will have great uptake.

The reasons I don't think it's amazing value are... 747 is only really attractive if you are staying in the city centre. The Aircoach is quicker (no loop around bus aras / up marlborough st etc.) in my experience and offers direct transport to more locations.

If you're staying in the city centre you're going to make limited use of public transport, not more than a couple of trips a day. You'd have to be using the Airlink or making a lot of trips to get benefit of this. Although convenience will be a big factor and hence I think it's decent value. All in all a welcome development.

1huge1

ballooba wrote: »

It's valid on the 747. So, that's potentially €10 worth of value straight away. I think it's a little on the pricey side, closer to €15 would have been nice*. Uptake will give an indication of whether the price is right. It's a welcome initiative all the same.

*Tack on dublin bikes (with a suitable security deposit) and I think €19.50 would be about right.

I think its very good value given my recent trips to Stockholm and Amsterdam in all fairness, I'm not saying we have the same quality of service of them (the notable lack of an underground) but still this seems fair to me.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

+1

I can see some regular commuters making a special trip out to the airport to collect one, unless it's only available in the secure zone or with a boarding pass.

According to the OP, it will also be available online

ballooba wrote: »

Just noticed that, thanks. I think it's decent value and it probably will have great uptake.

The reasons I don't think it's amazing value are... 747 is only really attractive if you are staying in the city centre. The Aircoach is quicker (no loop around bus aras / up marlborough st etc.) in my experience and offers direct transport to more locations.

If you're staying in the city centre you're going to make limited use of public transport, not more than a couple of trips a day. You'd have to be using the Airlink or making a lot of trips to get benefit of this. Although convenience will be a big factor and hence I think it's decent value. All in all a welcome development.

I'm not sure that most tourists are particularly worried about the difference between Aircoach and Airlink in terms of the route taken to the city centre to be honest.

Price generally is a bigger concern.

The fact that this includes DART/Suburban Rail means tourists can for example take a trip on the train and maybe use the bus on the return journey.

Stevek101 wrote: »

In addition they've launched a card for summer students. The Leap Trainee Card will be available to trainees through their language schools and directly from Dublin Bus, in 1-week, 2-week, 3-week and 4-week versions (Priced at €46.50, €70.00, €94.00 and €119.00 respectively). Similar to the Leap Visitor card, it will allow foreign students travel on Luas, DART, Iarnród Éireann’s short-hop zone and on Dublin Bus.

Again this would cost average commuter 40, 80, 120 and 160 so a massive reduction. However, I'd imagine the use of this card will be restricted.

This is merely replacing the existing magnetic stripe Dublin Bus tickets, but extending their use to LUAS and Irish Rail.

It's not available to "average commuters" so I think that point is totally irrelevant.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

+1

I can see some regular commuters making a special trip out to the airport to collect one, unless it's only available in the secure zone or with a boarding pass.

While it is excellent value, I can't see too many people saying right let's make a special trip out to Dublin Airport just to buy a transport ticket.

Aard

ballooba wrote: »

The reasons I don't think it's amazing value are... 747 is only really attractive if you are staying in the city centre. The Aircoach is quicker (no loop around bus aras / up marlborough st etc.) in my experience and offers direct transport to more locations.

747 to the Point and Luas into town might become popular, especially at rush hour.

Judgement Day

And next week they are going to reinvent the wheel. :rolleyes:

Aard wrote: »

747 to the Point and Luas into town might become popular, especially at rush hour.

That's a very good point. Hadn't thought of that. That makes this ticket very attractive to anyone staying on the Red Line Luas, even if they don't make use of it beyond the airport transfer.

Judgement Day wrote: »

And next week they are going to reinvent the wheel. :rolleyes:

So you don't view the ongoing expansion of LEAP as a good thing then?

Dravokivich

Judgement Day wrote: »

And next week they are going to reinvent the wheel. :rolleyes:

It's more like improving the wheel and getting rid of older versions of it.

foggy_lad wrote: »

http://www.nationaltransport.ie/news/minister-kelly-launches-new-leap-visitor-card-72-hours-travel-in-dublin-region-for-e19-50/

Minister Kelly has announced a new leap card that offers unlimited travel on luas rail and bus in the Dublin short hop area for 72hours plus also offers the return airline bus to visitors. Itbwill cost €19.50 and will only be available online and at the airport arrivals area.

People need to be careful to understand that this is within the 72 hours as well. It's not a separate piece of the ticket.

foggy_lad

Stevek101 wrote: »

In addition they've launched a card for summer students. The Leap Trainee Card will be available to trainees through their language schools and directly from Dublin Bus, in 1-week, 2-week, 3-week and 4-week versions (Priced at €46.50, €70.00, €94.00 and €119.00 respectively). Similar to the Leap Visitor card, it will allow foreign students travel on Luas, DART, Iarnród Éireann’s short-hop zone and on Dublin Bus.

Again this would cost average commuter 40, 80, 120 and 160 so a massive reduction. However, I'd imagine the use of this card will be restricted.

Most summer students get a single bus only or rail only weekly or monthly ticket depending on whether they are based near the dart/railway so these new fares will represent quite a large increase!

foggy_lad

ballooba wrote: »

Firstly, it's only 8 euro below the weekly cap for Leap anyway*. Secondly, taxsaver is a lot cheaper surely.

*EDIT: 1 euro saving versus 3 daily caps on Leap. https://www.leapcard.ie/en/PageSetting/ContentViewer.aspx?Val=T/HcRN0lgkhyO2TJbCpdXbpkQ6D59bgR9MwK7i5q52U2rfQVZcNw%2BAb2e13wL37V62K83icu4wP/KxugVQHB8/tfq8sS44StQmsdGiKYqRWG4lf%2Bgc7EYaq1dJckxC1SOs8Oi5WHyaggCxyPdGXNqCkz6KJl/C2vRG9pBSEkDcc%3D Not a bargain alert.

The cap for three days of adult bus rail and luas travel is €10 per day so €30 for three days. So this represents a saving of at least €10.50 over the visit.

schemingbohemia

Judgement Day wrote: »

And next week they are going to reinvent the wheel. :rolleyes:

What a well reasoned and argued point (doffs cap) :rolleyes:

Judgement Day

schemingbohemia wrote: »

What a well reasoned and argued point (doffs cap) :rolleyes:

I'm just stunned that so many of you are amazed with the cleverness of this simple idea which has been around for decades. Rambler tickets were used by the GSR in the 1920s or am I missing something?

Of course the national rambler tickets have existed for years.

But this is the first time since LUAS arrived that a combined tourist ticket for all three different modes (tram, bus and train) in Dublin City has been launched.

This is all about integrating the prepaid tickets onto LEAP.

devnull

Approx what is the EU contributing to this product cash wise, since the Press Release basically says they are agreeing to fund the cost of this product to some degree, which must be subsidizing the cost of the ticket in some way.

I'm surprised at the fact such subsidy is taking place, with the 747 being a commercial service and also being included.