B.A._Baracus wrote: » I hate the idea of water charges. People pay tax so the service of having fresh water in the tap should be free. As it was for many years. But the sad reality is that these meters are in. They cost the government alot of money doing so. They are going to get their return.
KOTSC wrote: » And that wasnt the only recent poll showing that a good per % of people oppose water charges. Article (Public rage at water charges speeding Sinn Fein rise)
endacl wrote: » It was never 'free'.
Uriel. wrote: » When it comes to resources such as water people should pay for the service they use, as they use it - not some blanket cost to the exchequer. Paying for service on a polluter pays principle basis, helps to reduce waste, but also allows better management of finances. Why should a one person household pay the same as a 6 person household? The more services that go this direction, coupled with reductions in general taxation the better we as a nation can finance our services and manage our national budget.
B.A._Baracus wrote: » But there wasnt 'water meters' years ago was there
blackwhite wrote: » And a car that's parked up off the road can be exempted from motor tax. You only need to pay motor tax if you want to use it on the road (i.e. start polluting).
No Pants wrote: » Correction: I can pay for a minimum of three calendar months if I want to use it for 5 minutes. That's not quite the same.
endacl wrote: » Arra, I'd chance it...
My name is URL wrote: » Just saw this posted on Reddithttp://i.imgur.com/gWADurN.jpg
Coat22 wrote: » Of course this is the most hated of all austerity measures because there is no getting away from this one boys and girls. Not like USC, abolishing the PRSI ceiling and a property tax that only 50% of the country have to pay. This one is for everyone – no exceptions (yet) for the council house dwellers, those on undeclared income etc. The coping classes are not going to have to shoulder this one all on their own and its hurting the noisy neighbours
DoesNotCompute wrote: » Should we take your word that the water quality will get worse? You still haven't answered the question by the way - would you be in favour of water charges is the meters were of better quality (and therefore more expensive, costing taxpayers more)? And you haven't addressed my point that we are not paying enough taxes to cover water charges as it is. From reading your posts, it seems like you're just parroting off objections that you've read on the Dublin Says No Facebook page to be honest.
wretcheddomain wrote: » It takes a certain type of mentality for these people to make a holy show of themselves; the type that craves attention for being the 'rebel' in society. Everybody else accepts that it isn't the most welcome form of tax but that ultimately it is necessary and has to be dealt with like responsible adults. We can have our say at the next elections, rather than disrupting people from doing their jobs just because you lot have a permanent chip of entitlement on your shoulder. On this basis, I'll tar you all twice with the same brush and still have lots left over for same.
ciarawira wrote: » as i said before not necessarily as they would have to fix my water before i would consider paying.
Uriel. wrote: » So in what way is the cover harmful, dangerous or substandard?ld
Bob24 wrote: » Yes exactly. The only people who have a rational (but possibly selfish) reason for being against water charges are the ones who don't pay tax or who know they are using much more water than average - i.e. the people who are currently getting their "free" water paid for by the rest of the population through general taxation, and will lose this benefit. In my view other people should reasonably support the change as if not a water charge it would inevitably have been a higher tax hike for them to swallow. But of course it still is an additional cost for them and there is no chance it will lead to lower taxation - which is probably pushing some of them to protest as well.
ciarawira wrote: » well if you have kids in your area and the cover is smashed up be it from thugs/vandals or a car driving over it to park etc. it would shatter easily because it is plastic and with young children in the area they could get hurt ! And before you ask yes i have seen it happen but luckily i copped it before any harm was done!
Bob24 wrote: » But if everybody is like you and doesn't want to pay until things get better (being through water charges or general taxation), where is the money to improve your service going to come from?
Bob24 wrote: » the only other country in the world where water is free is Turkmenistan. A number countries in the rest of the world must be using similar meters to ours. There are billions of meters which have installed elsewhere in the world for decades. Regardless of being in favour or against water charges, are you really saying their is evidence of them been that dangerous?
ciarawira wrote: » other country? we never had "free" water! i don't know if every other country in the world has meters! no i don't have evidence as the workers were close by so i got them to change it! don't take pictures of everything i see so didn't come to mind until it was said !
ciarawira wrote: » well they should of thought of that one before they started installing meters! where did the money for the meters come from? if they had of used the money instead of buying meters and used it instead to better the quality of water they could have brought in a blanket charge to pay for the meters! just my opinion !
Bob24 wrote: » You got what I meant - Ireland is one of the only 2 countries in the world where people don't have to pay for the water they are using, and in most countries it is charged based on meters. If they were that dangerous it would be clearly documented at this stage.
Deleted User wrote: » So you'd be happy to pay a blanket charge? Surely the meters is a fairer system? Would you want to pay the same a year as say a household with 7 or 8 people in it? If the money is used to improve the quality of water & the water infrastructure that's gotta be a good use of the money generated rather than just being profit for a company.
ciarawira wrote: » i didn't say i was happy to pay a blanket charge ! i was merely giving an example of how they could have done it! i am sure there are many different ways they could have gone about it ! that's a big if! who's to say they wont sell it off to a private company who will hike up the bill continuously for profit?
Uriel. wrote: » One could say that about every element that adorns our public Street. One should point the finger at the so called thugs. Incidentally Have you tested the covers.?
Uriel. wrote: » Who is to say anything. Conjecture and fantasy won't convince many, no matter how dull their lives
end of the road wrote: » but general taxation isn't going to go down, its going to go up and keep going up along with these service charges, thats the reality
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