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Random Wrasslin' thoughts.....

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So this is a thread for your musings which do not deserve an entire thread of its own.

For example

I just watched Card Subject To Change. Horrific to think that since its been made the following has happened -

Kamala has become an amputee

Sensational Sherrie, Paul Bearer and Trent Acid are dead

Had Kevin Sullivan and Nancy stayed together one of Wrestlings darkest moments would be completely different or never would have happened.

Lacey Von Erich almost became a diva. She is also crazy hot. Pure nom.

I also mused that even while Sherri was a dispicable heel while she was on tv she may well have been my first celeb crush.

All this in one lazy evening.

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Ape Lincoln

Reganio 2 wrote: »

That's what made me think of it an American heel who brings in these rules to keep the title. So he won't fight any foreigners. Someone beats him but he keeps the title because they used an irish whip.

For a nothing title it would make it interesting and get that little bit of heat over it. Picture the person being managed by zeb would be brilliant. Could even get a comedy stick in that someone like Santino trying to get a match but cause he is Italian they won't let him compete. Then for a few weeks we have Santino playing baseball and basketball and eating at hooters. Being a tourist and visiting American landmarks proving that he is American then he passes a citizenship test and wins the title. Be great craic sure

William Regal brought in a "Duchess of Queensbury Rules" match for his Jericho feud in 2001 but iirc it didn't work so well as Regal was a comedy piece (must rewatch that one as memory is shady).

The Ring of Honour handshake thing was a good idea too.

gnfnrhead

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

Becky Lynch had some weird ruled 'straight wrestling' match in Shimmer once with convulted stuff like a limited number of rope breaks.

Sounds like ROH's Pure title. Some great matches but a fairly limited amount of ways you can book a match before it is just repeating the same thing over and over.

Nigel McGuinness was brilliant in them. He would provoke his opponent into using a closed fist twice and losing a rope break. He would apply submission holds right beside the rope so they are forced to use a rope break. It's a shame how little variety is available though.

Reganio 2

Ape Lincoln wrote: »

Heh! Would love to see some kind of rules implemented so the heels can get heat.

Becky Lynch had some weird ruled 'straight wrestling' match in Shimmer once with convulted stuff like a limited number of rope breaks. A few months ago a US indie put on a Brittish rules match with World of Sport style rounds. All that kinda stuff would be nice to see on a regular basis. Unlikely in WWE however.

That's what made me think of it an American heel who brings in these rules to keep the title. So he won't fight any foreigners. Someone beats him but he keeps the title because they used an irish whip.

For a nothing title it would make it interesting and get that little bit of heat over it. Picture the person being managed by zeb would be brilliant. Could even get a comedy stick in that someone like Santino trying to get a match but cause he is Italian they won't let him compete. Then for a few weeks we have Santino playing baseball and basketball and eating at hooters. Being a tourist and visiting American landmarks proving that he is American then he passes a citizenship test and wins the title. Be great craic sure

leggo

FWIW interest we get for the parties for the Rumble is 2-3 times bigger than SummerSlam (which still gets a lot of interest, I've been pleasantly surprised to find). The casual fans are the big difference, a lot of older fans will even watch the Rumble and can give or take Mania.

A Primal Nut

mxph3 wrote: »

Does anyone else think Royal Rumble is 2nd biggest event of the year instead of Summerslam nowadays?

Rumble sells more most years...and I also look forward to it more so I would consider it number 2. Last year the Rumble trounced Summerslam; helped by The Rock and Punk's long title reign.

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/general-wwe/577133-wwe-ppv-buyrates-history-3.html

Ape Lincoln

Reganio 2 wrote: »

European uppercuts should be banned in Us title matches.

Heh! Would love to see some kind of rules implemented so the heels can get heat.

Becky Lynch had some weird ruled 'straight wrestling' match in Shimmer once with convulted stuff like a limited number of rope breaks. A few months ago a US indie put on a Brittish rules match with World of Sport style rounds. All that kinda stuff would be nice to see on a regular basis. Unlikely in WWE however.

A Primal Nut

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

'Edge' was the last great name in WWE.

I'm still waiting for a Bono.

Reganio 2

European uppercuts should be banned in Us title matches.

krudler

mxph3 wrote: »

Does anyone else think Royal Rumble is 2nd biggest event of the year instead of Summerslam nowadays?

I do tbh, always been Mania, Rumble, Summerslam, Survivor Series for me in terms of the big events. the Rumble is on in Philly next year and I'm gonna try and get to it, its like a 2hr flight from Toronto so easily done the tickets should be on sale during the summer.

gnfnrhead

Rumble is easily the second biggest. Summerslam is only slightly more important than any other PPV.

Vision of Disorder

I'd rather watch one Royal Rumble than ten Summerslams. Personally the Rumble is my favourite WWE moment of the year though so I'm clearly out of kilter with the norm.

bobby_says_hi

I'd consider Night of Champions one of the big ones too. TLC also always has a habit of being when WWE really picks up steam after the yearly slump. I'd consider it the best of the gimmicked PPVs

Moneymaker

I think the 40 man Rumble and Del Rio winning it(and then losing at WM) really hurt the prestige of the Rumble and not much has helped it recover since.

beakerjoe

Buy rates would suggest casual fans will flock to the Rumble over Summerslam but its just my preference in where I think Summerslam has a bigger feel to it. Like Ape said, the Rumble, though always a must see, has been tarnished by winners not automaticly being in the main event at Mania or being teh focus of the main event feud. Hopefully with 1 belt this trend will not continue.

Blue_Dabadee

The last good Survivor Series was 2002.

Moneymaker

WM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Summerslam = RR > MITB >>>>> Survivor Series > Everything else

Hell i'd probably have Extreme Rules ahead of SS now. It's usually a good show while SS has stank the place out for a few years now.

Blue_Dabadee

Royal Rumble has been a bigger draw than Summerslam for at least the last couple of years now. People would always buy Royal Rumble PPV just to see Royal Rumble match including people who don't watch wrestling regularly anymore.

Ape Lincoln

mxph3 wrote: »

Does anyone else think Royal Rumble is 2nd biggest event of the year instead of Summerslam nowadays?

I'm no sure that it is a matter of opinion tbh because as far as I am aware, the numbers show Rumble to be the 2nd biggest show ie. PPV buys.

In terms of personal taste I prefer SummerSlam as I feel Rumble is a bit overrated due to the number 1 contender Rumble winner match at Mania being overshadowed for a number of years (with exception of Rock vs Cena II which was booked front and centre as important).

beakerjoe

Summerslam will always be the next thing to wrestlemania, always has a big fight feel to it after a longer than usual build up. Rumble and MITB will be next in line for me for sure though

Moneymaker

mxph3 wrote: »

Does anyone else think Royal Rumble is 2nd biggest event of the year instead of Summerslam nowadays?

No, but I do think MITB is high on the list of important shows.

Blue_Dabadee

Does anyone else think Royal Rumble is 2nd biggest event of the year instead of Summerslam nowadays?

beakerjoe

gnfnrhead wrote: »

It is shocking how much of Jericho's WWF debut promo could be applied to today.

Yes, god yes!

Is Adam Rose the new Y2J, Seeing as hes our new WWE party host???

(I actually dont hate Adam Rose, just hate that hes a face)

gnfnrhead

It is shocking how much of Jericho's WWF debut promo could be applied to today.

Blue_Dabadee

Curt Hawkins looks like Samuel Shaw.

Chip Whitley

Deadlie wrote: »

...Or, to be more poetic - would an Adam Rose by any other other name sell any more seats?

Eire-Dearg

'Edge' was the last great name in WWE.

Deadlie

CSF wrote: »

I think the cynical nature of us all is a big part of it. If a guy called Ultimate Warrior or Animal had debuted on Raw tomorrow night rather than many years ago, I don't think many of us would take it that seriously.

Its like band names, sure. Imagine if the teenage band playing your local was called 'The Red Hot Chili Peppers'. I know I'd think they were some novelty ****e. Its about onwning the name and giving it meaning, The man makes the name in instances like this - would the Ultimate Warrior have been as loved as much if he had another name, most likely.

Or, to be more poetic - would an Adam Rose by any other other name sell any more seats?

CSF

I think the cynical nature of us all is a big part of it. If a guy called Ultimate Warrior or Animal had debuted on Raw tomorrow night rather than many years ago, I don't think many of us would take it that seriously.

Chip Whitley

After The Shield, the JBL & Cole show is my favourite thing about WWE.

Too many people use the super kick or a variation of it nowadays imo.

On the names thing, I like Dolph, Roman Reigns, Jack Swagger, Tyler Breeze and probably a few more I can't think of now. They are 'regular-ish' names with a twist. John Cena is a crap name for a wrestler, lol.

DM_7

Wrestling Boom has nothing to do with names, as proved by the god awful names that were called cool a few posts ago.

Tugboat!