munchkin_utd wrote: » might explain the comments of the "head" of the band who points the blame at the 2 teams and makes special mention of Cavan, possibly to deflect attention from their part in the confusion. well, if one thing comes of this then maybe the band at an Ulster game will be rotated seeing as they are partially to blame for the melee.
Lemlin wrote: » For me the whole lot was clearly premeditated by Armagh. Grimley's comments since and this ludicrous suggestion about the home team always parading on the outside being protocol prove that. The problem is Cavan fell for it. I'd agree there have to be serious question marks over Clarke's position as captain. At the end of the day he led the charge in and it was a very ill advised move. I'd expect he and McKeever to get the longest bans and quite rightly so. A friend from Armagh tells me that BBC had very good videos of the incident last night which didn't look good for McKeever, Kieran Toner, Andy Mallon, Donaghy and James Morgan from Armagh. And on the Cavan side Rory Dunne, Fergal Flanagan, Conor Gilsenan and Damien O'Reilly.
celt262 wrote: » Any link to this footage?
Lemlin wrote: » Nope, I haven't seen it myself. Just going on what this Armagh man told me. He has also said that he did clearly see McGeeney talking to McKeever at the goals before the parade.
petronius wrote: » For too long the GAA has tolerated violence in the sport until they punish teams and players for brawls the game will not be able to rid itself of the problem and will always be discredited by them. Someone on the sideline tried to hit player in the brawl he should also be punished. It is macho bravado nonsense which persists in the sport which annoys me, comments like "gave him a slap" or "sorted him out" or it was "only handbags not a punch was thrown". If a player was banned for violent conduct and bringing the game into disrepute for 3months or 6months and not having his back slapped at a club game the following weekend
petronius wrote: » I find the use of the word "skirmish" to display the acceptance of many GAA folk of the presence of such violence in the sport. It needs to be weeded out.
cavan4sam wrote: » Still kind of baffled whether or not Dunne got injured in the warm up or the skirmish ? It didn't look good on tv and bans will and should be handed out . this is our 2nd time in a couple of months involved in controversy and its nothing to be proud of From what I saw of the game and team selection it looked very like hyland picked his team in croke park last august and not on recent form anyway whatever the fall out of this is we should take it on the chin and move on westmeath may just be a little too strong for us this year but we always have a good tussle with them
Cavan’s Martin Dunne will be out of action for at least a month after suffering multiple fractures in his hand and wrist during the pre-match brawl with Armagh in Sunday's Ulster SFC clash. The Irish Daily Star reports that Dunne, who saw a specialist in Dublin yesterday, may have been stepped on during the melee, which is under investigation. Cavan host Westmeath in the first round of the qualifiers on 21 June.
soap1978 wrote: » Westmeath to strong for cavan,come on after the year cavan had we should win against the likes of westmeath at home
cavan4sam wrote: » are you forgetting that westmeath were playing division 1 football ?? tell me one quality team we have beaten in competetive football this year that you would rate above a division 1 team , i think this will make us a team if we beat westmeath without some of our most influential players ie. clarke and dunne
tanko wrote: » Strange comments from the band leader. The girls holding the flags didn't help the situation. When Mckeever stood behind the Cavan flag the other girl with the Armagh flag asked her to swap places which she refused to do. If they had swapped places all the trouble would have been avoided. The behaviour of both teams was disgraceful. From a Cavan point of view I hope the players have realised that no scores are awarded for what happens before the game starts. Alan Clarkes position as team captain must be in serious doubt.
soap1978 wrote: » Derry last year,division one semi finalist this year
tanko wrote: » It seems like I was harsh on the girl carrying the Cavan flag. According to the Anglo Celt she said would have had absolutely no problem moving across to the opposite side had she been asked politely. According to her, Mckeever came up to her and said "move". She said "pardon" and he said "move to f**k to the other side". If he had asked her politely she says she would have said said "certainly, no problem". I can't blame her for not moving over after being spoken to like that. It turns out the woman carrying the Armagh flag is an aunt of one of the Armagh players.
Lemlin wrote: » Hopefully the juniors can win tonight. Apparently it was on the radio this morning that up to twenty players could recieve suspensions. I'd be amazed if it was that many to be honest. I'm expecting four or five from each team.
celt262 wrote: » We could be needing them for the Westmeath game!
KeepTheFaith wrote: » Dunne broke his hand throwing a box it looks like. People going way overboard about the skirmish, these things happen. We had years there where a Cavan player wouldn't give a sidways f*** what flag he was marching behind, fair play to Alan Clarke he saw McKeever's actions as a slight or a challenge and went for him. It was unfortunate that we lost Dunne as a result but it was his own fault he shouldn't have been throwing a box at a player on the ground. It had little or no effect on the game, Cavan got the first two scores and the game went away from us after the initial stages. As for Westmeath, they're not a Division 1 standard team. A few decent players in Heslin and Glennon has his moments but when the going gets tough he is usually nowhere to be found So I'd expect us to put it up to them well in Breffni. We may be without the bones of our team depending on suspensions though. No need to reinvent the wheel just get back on track, try to tweak our attacks and penetrate more effectively, up our game at midfield and keep doing what we've been doing in defence and we we won't be far away I would think. How the team reacts to the criticism and performance from Sunday's game will be a good indicator. Hope to see a good response.
Lemlin wrote: » The scans have pointed towards Dunne's arm being stood on. I heard a rumour from the Armagh side that he injured it trying to hit Jamie Clarke but I think that's as correct as their protocol that the home team should always march on the outside of a pre match parade. Hopefully the good response starts with the juniors tonight.
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