mrsbyrne wrote: » I've no idea. I'm sure all will be revealed after the investigation. Out of respect for any surviving family members I think it would be cruel offensive and distatsefull to speculate.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » Yes, the Gardaí should have arrested the nuns, the DPP should have prosecuted them, the Government should have seized their assets, and provided for the imprisoned women and children...
Czarcasm wrote: » The Gardaí at the time Zub colluded with the nuns, as did the DPP, and the Government, and the civil servants of the State, and even the families of these women and children themselves supported the workhouses and laundries, so they were hardly going to have a word said against them! I think it's worth noting too that the last laundry/asylum only closed in 1996.
Dades wrote: » I've been following this thread. The usage of "FYP" is an Internet discussion norm. It's not everyone's cup of tea, and overuse is frowned upon. But single usage such as in this thread is not breaking any rules. The inclusion of the term "FYP" lets people know that your quote has been edited, so it doesn't change your original post in any way.
SeaDaily wrote: » Nope. The first question asked "why", the second asked "who".
mrsbyrne wrote: » I've just answered that question. Its the post right above yours.
iguana wrote: » Less than 4 hours since it went live and we've passed 250 signatures on the petition. Hopefully it will gain momentum and we'll meet the initial goal of 2000 tomorrow. Once we achieve that number I'm going to start sending the link to TDs.
SeaDaily wrote: » Chill out there now, no need to resort to swearing.
SeaDaily wrote: » I never once referred to you at any point btw.
SeaDaily wrote: » If you feel the church did not have a part to play in this then that's okay, but I simply disagree.
Nodin wrote: » And ive provided more insight into the conditions in such homes in the period. Care to comment now?
mrsbyrne wrote: » You seem to be confusing an article you lifted from the well known left wing liberal website journal.is with proven facts relating to this tragedy in Tuam. So, no, I've nothing further to add except to reiterate that unfounded allegations of criminality are hurtfull to surviving family members.
Terrlock wrote: » It really sickens be to the core the amount of evil acts like this that have occurred in our country only to be covered up and not investigated, and when they are brought to light no through apologies are given, just excuses of why they happened. This really needs thorough investigation, we need to know what happened, why it happened and what have been done to stop this from ever happening again. Even if the people who committed this most evil act are passed on at this stage the organisation of the Catholic Church must be brought to justice, if it has any wrong doing on it's part. I don't get why people here though associate the Catholic Church with Christianity, if anything it's anti Christianity, it's just another Cult that was given way to much power over the people and abused that power. They enslaved people for their so called sins, the made people feel that they were bad people and needed to pay for their sins true cruel punishment and all for the greed of money and power. The truth should come out and Justice needs to be done for all those lives that were lost to their cruel deeds. I don't know why people conclude from one organisation's evil acts that this is proof there is no God. If anything it's proof of how willing people are to be ruled by evil, how we give evil control over our lives and how Governments stand by while there citizens are under control. Jesus came to show people how to live free from sin and free from evil. He did not condemn the prostitute when the people brought her to him to be stoned to death, in fact he did the opposite he set her free. True Christianity is about how we can break free from evil and not live our lives as slaves. I pray that Justice will be done, for all those lives lost and the people that suffered from these cruel acts.
smokingman wrote: » Are you really that wilfully ignorant that you don't think the people running the place were responsible? Really? Are you seriously trying to say that with a straight face? Are you really, honestly trying to say that?
bumper234 wrote: » Could you post the Link to the petition please.
Nodin wrote: » Are you stating that |Bessborough house and the others did not have high mortality rates? Are you saying that Dr Neenys account is false?
mrsbyrne wrote: » I think that what's wilfully ignorant is to continue speculating slanderously about an uninvestigated tragedy, when its clear that this speculation would be distressing for any surviving family members. Why do you think the mainstream media are taking a softly softly approach?
mrsbyrne wrote: » I'm saying that I fail to see what bearing these cases have on the Tuam tragedy. Taking into account that we are still totally in the dark about Team. As I've now said many, many times.
iguana wrote: » Here you go;https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/ Can people who sign it also share it through their social networks. It's picking up momentum now (nearly 400) and the faster it's shared the more signatures it will get.
bumper234 wrote: » If your "god" allows this kind of evil to exist and allow his so called representatives on Earth to carry out these acts then i will happily denounce it from every rooftop.
shruikan2553 wrote: » Do you have evidence they find these comments hurtful or are you just speculating?
Czarcasm wrote: » Get the fcuk down off your moral high horse.
mrsbyrne wrote: » Not speculating. Concerned. I can just try to put myself in their shoes (its called having empathy). I think that if I had given birth 50 years ago to a baby which I was later told had died, then I would have offered to imagine that that baby had been given a decent funeral, had died of natural causes, was lying peacefully. I would be distraught if I became aware that people who knew less about it then I were alleging murder , negligence, cruelty etc. That's all.
mrsbyrne wrote: » Not speculating. Concerned. I can just try to put myself in their shoes (its called having empathy). I think that if I had given birth 50 years ago to a baby which I was later told had died, then I would have preferred to imagine that that baby had been given a decent funeral, had died of natural causes, was lying peacefully. I would be distraught if I became aware that people who knew less about it then I were alleging murder , negligence, cruelty etc. That's all.
