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Way to go Sinn Fein

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Delighted that SF are doing well in the polls. Well done

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Balmed Out

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I think you're underestimating the intelligence of young people in this country.

You may be overestimating the other parties however. Politics in Ireland is depressing. Labour and FG always willing to sell out for power with FF and SF seeing nothing wrong with promising the sun moon and stars trying to win popularity contests rather then selling reasoned policies.

Phoebas

kneemos wrote: »

The Greens have disappeared up their own colons...every cloud...

Eamon Ryan looks like he's in with a good chance in Dublin.

Lenin Skynard

Sinn Fein doing well, Ming predicted to top the polls. Tough day for After Hours :pac:

anncoates

wazky wrote: »

Waiting for murderers, terrorists, beards and shinnerbot comments....

The elicitation of same probably being the main reason the thread was started?

Amirani

OldRio wrote: »

Most of us will wait and see what they do. Unfortunately you seem to have made your mind up already.

Reading their drafted policies gives some clues.

Banjo String

Hootanany wrote: »

Off where?

Mr edge broke the ice there. First in with "Shinnerbots"

hjkl

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I think you're underestimating the intelligence of young people in this country.

As I have said, young people in this country by and large do not have the same hang ups about Sinn Fein people like yourself have. They have only ever known Sinn Fein as another political party.
While the situation the country has been in over the last 6 years has helped, I don't think it is a coincidence that Sinn Feins support has seen a dramatic increase as people who were only children as the troubles were coming to an end have become old enough to vote.

Anyway time will tell.

.jacksparrow.

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Reading their drafted policies gives some clues.

As opposed to the great policies that have and are working well presently?

Hootanany

Banjo String wrote: »

Mr edge broke the ice there.

Why do you talk in riddles?

longhalloween

WHAT DO WE WANT?
AN END TO AUSTERITY!

HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT?
uhhhh.......

Banjo String

Hootanany wrote: »

Why do you talk in riddles?

Quote the rest of my post.

Duiske

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Fourth behind Independents, FG and FF. Hardly call it a victory in the current climate. That's as good as their support will ever get. Everyone else knows what they are and will never vote for them, enjoy your 'victory' while it lasts.

Say's a lot when you have to dream up an "Independants" party to try to knock SF from 3rd to 4th in the list of most popular party's in the State.

Hootanany

Banjo String wrote: »

Quote the rest of my post.

pablomakaveli

Banjo String wrote: »

Quote the rest of my post.

That second bit wasn't there initially.

Jonny Blaze

donegal__road wrote: »

DeValera was first elected on the SF ticket.

He was also one of the first european statesman to sign a book of condolences for Hitler when he died.

http://www.ibtimes.com/irish-nationalist-nazi-when-eamon-de-valera-paid-his-respects-adolf-hitler-1403768

Reekwind

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I think you're underestimating the intelligence of young people in this country.

Indeed. I'm sure the young people of this country are level-headed and astute enough to follow their elders' example and continually vote for FF/FG*, regardless of their policies or the state of the country. Therein lies real wisdom.

*Delete as appropriate, depending on your grandfather's Civil War affiliation.

pablomakaveli

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

He was also one of the first european statesman to sign a book of condolences for Hitler when he died.

http://www.ibtimes.com/irish-nationalist-nazi-when-eamon-de-valera-paid-his-respects-adolf-hitler-1403768

That was more due to trying maintain an image of neutrality and out of respect for the German ambassador who had been quite well behaved during the war unlike the American ambassador.

Though with hindsight it was still a error in judgement on De Valeras part.

The Backwards Man

frimpong wrote: »

As I have said, young people in this country by and large do not have the same hang ups about Sinn Fein people like yourself have. They have only ever known Sinn Fein as another political party.
While the situation the country has been in over the last 6 years has helped, I don't think it is a coincidence that Sinn Feins support has seen a dramatic increase as people who were only children as the troubles were coming to an end have become old enough to vote.

Anyway time will tell.

SF will never be 'just another party'. The minute they become 'just another party' they will disappear into obscurity and they know this. Granted, their support has increased in recent years due to those with a more 'romantacised' view of their role in Irish history swelling their ranks, I'll give you that. But I think their are very very few purple that vote for SF that think of them as 'just another party', regardless of what they may proclaim in online forums.

The Diabolical Monocle

Banjo String wrote: »

Quote the rest of my post.

"Nevermore"

Aongus Von Bismarck

How are they doing well?

Behind FG, FF, and Independents.

Over 50% of this country voted for centre-right politics.

The only place it seems SF have a noticeable majority is online where they have endless amounts of teenage shinnerbots to quote the party line.

FG still the most popular party in Ireland.

The Backwards Man

Duiske wrote: »

Say's a lot when you have to dream up an "Independants" party to try to knock SF from 3rd to 4th in the list of most popular party's in the State.

Well, if you want to play it that way, 92% of the electorate don't want SF anywhere near power (including those that didn't vote)

Balmed Out

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

How are they doing well?

Behind FG, FF, and Independents.

Over 50% of this country voted for centre-right politics.

The only place it seems SF have a noticeable majority is online where they have endless amounts of teenage shinnerbots to quote the party line.

FG still the most popular party in Ireland.

FF and the majority of Indepedants are centre left and SF have done well like them or not.

donegal__road

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

He was also one of the first european statesman to sign a book of condolences for Hitler when he died.

http://www.ibtimes.com/irish-nationalist-nazi-when-eamon-de-valera-paid-his-respects-adolf-hitler-1403768

Yes, I know this... and he was also present at the planning of the assassination of Michael Collins.

Both he and Childers were British spies.

The Diabolical Monocle

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

He was also one of the first european statesman to sign a book of condolences for Hitler when he died.

http://www.ibtimes.com/irish-nationalist-nazi-when-eamon-de-valera-paid-his-respects-adolf-hitler-1403768

It was a book of condolences for the German people. On the death of their head of state.

.jacksparrow.

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

It was a book of condolences for the German people. On the death of their head of state.

Nice way to sugar coat it.

Frank Lee Midere

Jonny Blaze wrote: »

He was also one of the first european statesman to sign a book of condolences for Hitler when he died.

http://www.ibtimes.com/irish-nationalist-nazi-when-eamon-de-valera-paid-his-respects-adolf-hitler-1403768

How did you ever find out about that!

hjkl

The Backwards Man wrote: »

SF will never be 'just another party'. The minute they become 'just another party' they will disappear into obscurity and they know this. Granted, their support has increased in recent years due to those with a more 'romantacised' view of their role in Irish history swelling their ranks, I'll give you that. But I think their are very very few purple that vote for SF that think of them as 'just another party', regardless of what they may proclaim in online forums.

I'm sorry but simply don't understand how young people think at all.
Young people are not voting for Sinn Fein based on a romanticised view of the past, they couldn't care less about the past. They care about now. And now, Sinn Fein are seen as a credible alternative by a huge amount of people, as the polls clearly demonstrate.

Jester252

More welfare, less taxes

mike65

They'll nationalise the banks! Oh wait....

Amirani

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

As opposed to the great policies that have and are working well presently?

What relevancy does that have to the point I was making?