sillyoulfool wrote: » I stand over my posts
the truthis better than emotion revisionist claptrap
From the late 1960s on, a historian could be seen as having sympathies with the IRA if he or she explored the negative effects of the Famine in too much detail. The fact that Anglo-Irish relations are now on a different footing means that historians feel less reluctant to get involved in this vexed period of our shared history. (Kevin Whelan, 1995)
Anti "Irish republican (national socialist psychopaths)? Everytime.
GrayFox208 wrote: » Nope.. Don't really care neither... A few spuds went bad people died.. There's a bag of potatoes here that's gone bad, someone's died today, what's the difference?
The Backwards Man wrote: » The area where I live was largely unaffected, and in fact was improving at the time.http://www.movilleinishowen.com/history/moville_heritage/donegal_making_of_a_northern_county/social_class_impact_of_donegal_famine.htm
padma wrote: » The shipping documents are pretty extensive of the food leaving the country. Free trade. Controlled by the money men in London at the time. Ships bringing aid being blocked from entering Ireland. Racist jokes in the British newspapers at the times helping to justify the famine to a fearful public in Britain. The prevailing attitude that this was God's punishment on the Irish people even though they were robbing the country blind, both landlord and the government of the time.
William F wrote: » I think most people were very aware of what was happening considering that people had to buried in mass graves because cemeteries couldn't cope with the scale of death. People were literally lying dead on the road and had to be picked up by death carts for burial (similar to events seen in the Warsaw Ghetto a century later). Some were even buried alive.
woodoo wrote: » You are right and it makes me quite sad how much we seem to have absorbed the british line on the famine. We have developed a sort of contempt for the memory of the millions who starved here in Ireland. Our own ancestors and relations no doubt.
sillyoulfool wrote: » tragic though it was it was not a genocide.
endacl wrote: » How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman? None! *gets coat...*
woodoo wrote: » You are an Irishman.. think how silly you'd look telling that joke to a group of Englishmen. What might they think of you?
bumper234 wrote: » Yeah!!!! How dare you have a sense of humour and mock something that happened over 200 years ago? Go and sit in the corner and think.about what you have done :mad:
William F wrote: » Kenny mentioned in his speech that ‘’…Irish people have a particular empathy with those suffering the effects of hunger in the world today’’ but yet didn’t mention anything about Britain’s policies which contributed to the mass scale starvation, land clearances and deaths of millions of Irish people.
wazky wrote: » How many years ago was WW2?, is it ok to start telling jokes about gassing Jews now?
bumper234 wrote: » The deliberate murder of people with the intent of wiping out an entire race is slightly different to people starving over a potato blight.
Lapin wrote: » This is quite possibly one of the most idiotic pieces of shíte I have ever read anywhere. Yet another moronic comment from the 800 years of misery and woe victim brigade. I'm glad our Taoiseach didn't embarrass us by bringing up such pointless drivel. If you were awake in 1997 you got your apology then. What more do you want? Quit prostituting the dignity of genuine Irish people for your own petty slice of bitter gratification. Get over it FFS and join the 21st century.
The great evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people. (Charles Trevelyan, December 1846)
Before our merciful intervention, the Irish nation were a wretched, indolent, half-starved tribe of savages, ages before Julius Caesar landed on this isle, and that, notwithstanding a gradual improvement upon the naked savagery, they have never approached the standard of the civilized world. (The Times, January 1847)
William F wrote: » I only heard it was National Famine Commemoration Day today when I listened to the 5 o’clock news and heard Enda Kenny giving a speech at Strokestown, Co. Roscommon. Kenny mentioned in his speech that ‘’…Irish people have a particular empathy with those suffering the effects of hunger in the world today’’ but yet didn’t mention anything about Britain’s policies which contributed to the mass scale starvation, land clearances and deaths of millions of Irish people. Again another day of national significance passes by without the Irish public been made aware of it and essentially given a whitewashed history of events. I had no idea it was today and like the 1916 Rising Commemoration, I think this commemoration is deliberately played down. I see Jewish people have no hesitations with commemorating the Holocaust in case they upset the Germans but we Irish pretend as though the Irish Famine/Genocide never happened just in case we sour Anglo-Irish relations.I think John Mitchell summed up the ‘Famine’ in these words ‘’God sent the blight but the English made the Famine.’’ Perhaps Kenny should of remarked on the impact of colonialism on Ireland and not hunger. There seems to be some confusion there that needs some deciphering!
