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breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

Seaneh

Have very little info here but just been told Gerry Adams has been arrested by the PSNI in relation to the McConville case. SF statement expected around 9pm.

I posted this in politics too but I think it's something that will get a lot of attention here as well.

MOD: Labelling people who disagree with you as "Shinnerbots" is not going to be tolerated here any more. If that's the extent of you debating skills then it's best that you just don't post anything.

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bumper234

Happyman42 wrote: »

I wasn't the one criticising somebody else.

And yet you chose to pick up on someones bad grammar by using bad grammar yourself. To coin a phrase, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

bumper234

Anyway

Will Gerry make it out in time for his Sunday roast?

Happyman42

bumper234 wrote: »

And yet you chose to pick up on someones bad grammar by using bad grammar yourself. To coin a phrase, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

No, I merely pointed out that somebody using bad spelling and grammar should not be criticising somebody else.

It doesn't bother me mostly, if the sentiment is understandable. Having a pop while doing the same thing yourself does bother me.

Gatling

bumper234 wrote: »

Anyway

Will Gerry make it out in time for his Sunday roast?

Day 3 in the criminal big brother house ,

Today housemates will play I'm a criminal get me out of here ,

Followed by a trip to the hit musical Jail House Rock !

alaimacerc

rockatansky wrote: »

Thread has descended into a shambles.

Thread's been a shambles since the get-go. Any subsequent digging's been somewhat incidental.

Welcome to AH!

alaimacerc

Gatling wrote: »

Been regularly appearing in my posts for 7+ years,

Great! You and somebody else, and you have the beginnings of "actual communication".

I guess if you're going for something like "jeez", but want to make a meal and another syllable out of it, it's not an entirely infeasible rendering.

I now believe there's dark forces at work political grammar policing at its worst I'm Outraged

Well, more morphology than grammar.

The important thing is, some sort of Equality of Outrage be arrived at!

Happyman42

Gatling wrote: »

Day 3 in the criminal big brother house ,

Today housemates will play I'm a criminal get me out of here ,

Followed by a trip to the hit musical Jail House Rock !

Might be as well to brush up on your comedy skills too.

Donkey Oaty

Happyman42 wrote: »

Might be as well to brush up on your comedy skills too.

Knock Knock!

Whose there?

Ye know who we are.

Karl Stein

alaimacerc wrote: »

Well, there's one, since you ask. Plural is "parties", "party's" is the singular possessive. I think the main thing from your original was "punctuation as flaky as all heck", but if we were pulling people up about that all the time on web fora, we'd have no time for anything else.I know what the phrase means: it's a well-known Australianism. First time I've heard of Deccers passing it off as his own, though little would surprise me on that score. Political chancer on an epic scale. Likely only the fact that he has an English accent ever saved the country from being run by his New Model Blueshirts (or whatever other colour scheme he might have gone for). Oh dear. We're not making it very far through the standard playbook on this thread, are we? Insult people failing to show the correct amount of outrage about the arrest. Whatabout some other stuff. Insult people some more, with particular reference to being "national traitors". I'd have gone with "Jaysus", myself, or if you're skimping on the second sibilant, "Jeez". Though of course, "very possibly" you had in mind some Indonesian slang. Great! You and somebody else, and you have the beginnings of "actual communication". I guess if you're going for something like "jeez", but want to make a meal and another syllable out of it, it's not an entirely infeasible rendering. Well, more morphology than grammar. The important thing is, some sort of Quality of Outrage be arrived at!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxVLaTVBnpg

alaimacerc

Karl Stein wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxVLaTVBnpg

Seem to have "accidentally" messed up your quoting, there, Karl.

(Oh, and post reported.)

Karl Stein

alaimacerc wrote: »

Seem to have "accidentally" messed up your quoting, there, Karl.

Welcome to After Hours.

whitebriar

Karl Stein wrote: »

That's total rubbish. The vast majority of high earners are not entrepreneurs.

Did I say they were?
I was talking about incentive, where's the incentive to earn more than 100k if most of the excess is taken off you?
That's practically volunteerism and realistically it won't run a country.
Even Soviet Russia never had volunteerism as a precept for their brand of socialism, it was coercion.
As someone said to me once,'when I signed my contract of employment, It wasn't for a joint venture with the government'.
When government takes more than 50% of your extra pay for your progress,its just another way for Economic Implosion to soon come.

Santa Cruz

bumper234 wrote: »

Anyway

Will Gerry make it out in time for his Sunday roast?

I thought it was the brother Liam that did the Sunday roast.

My name is URL

Santa Cruz wrote: »

I thought it was the brother Liam that did the Sunday roast.

Classy

Dan_Solo

whitebriar wrote: »

Did I say they were?
I was talking about incentive, where's the incentive to earn more than 100k if most of the excess is taken off you?

If the public sector cap is 100k then it's fair to think of this as an equivalent "cap" in the private sector, above which you will receive diminishing financial reward.

getzls

Did you see all them folks protesting about the detention of the Noble Gerry?

It was like a scene from the Hammer House of Horrors. :cool:

So many Monsters on display.

whitebriar

Dan_Solo wrote: »

If the public sector cap is 100k then it's fair to think of this as an equivalent "cap" in the private sector, above which you will receive diminishing financial reward.

Ah now!Apples and oranges!
The private sector can only pay what it's sales justify and in a lot of cases depending on position,that's way more than 100k.
The government are hard set to pay 100k in any instance but they do..and the rest of us pick up the can eventually (not voluntarily!).

As I said earlier,I'd be well happy to keep 60% of 100k as a salary but in an open market,that's not going to keep us in surgeons if they can get much more in Belfast or Leeds.

Anyhow,I'm not too worried about parties talking high taxes because ultimately when they get near or in power,that notion goes quickly.

bobmalooka

Santa Cruz wrote: »

I thought it was the brother Liam that did the Sunday roast.

Wow

Dan_Solo

whitebriar wrote: »

Ah now!Apples and oranges!
The private sector can only pay what it's sales justify and in a lot of cases depending on position,that's way more than 100k.
The government are hard set to pay 100k in any instance but they do..and the rest of us pick up the can eventually (not voluntarily!).

As I said earlier,I'd be well happy to keep 60% of 100k as a salary but in an open market,that's not going to keep us in surgeons if they can get much more in Belfast or Leeds.

Anyhow,I'm not too worried about parties talking high taxes because ultimately when they get near or in power,that notion goes quickly.

If our country is "broke" how can we afford to have so many people in the private sector on far in excess of 100,000 p/a? I don't see any problem with more taxes in that case.
Every country on earth has surgeons, many just as good as ours, but few get 100,000 p/a, nevermind the 200,000-500,000 p/a they get here.

keeponhurling

Even if this is after hours, it has gone way off topic. If I was a mod I'd tidy it up a bit.

Anyways, so when are the 48 hours up, and are the PSNI required to give any explanation of why they thought it was worth detaining him for this period?

Maybe they don't need to say anything, and maybe that's right, but I'm pretty curious how something new can turn up after 30 or 40 years

Tramps Like Us

alaimacerc wrote: »

I know what the phrase means: it's a well-known Australianism. First time I've heard of Deccers passing it off as his own, though little would surprise me on that score. Political chancer on an epic scale. Likely only the fact that he has an English accent ever saved the country from being run by his New Model Blueshirts (or whatever other colour scheme he might have gone for).

So you just wasted my time with inane rubbish, why post if you aren't interested in discussion?

tomwaterford

keeponhurling wrote: »

Even if this is after hours, it has gone way off topic. If I was a mod I'd tidy it up a bit.

Anyways, so when are the 48 hours up, and are the PSNI required to give any explanation of why they thought it was worth detaining him for this period?

Maybe they don't need to say anything, and maybe that's right, but I'm pretty curious how something new can turn up after 30 or 40 years

it would appear that nothing has...

Fred Swanson

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Dan_Solo wrote: »

If our country is "broke" how can we afford to have so many people in the private sector on far in excess of 100,000 p/a? I don't see any problem with more taxes in that case.
Every country on earth has surgeons, many just as good as ours, but few get 100,000 p/a, nevermind the 200,000-500,000 p/a they get here.

And Adams pays surgeons? Or is being questioned about same? Wow!

Gatling

tomwaterford wrote: »

it would appear that nothing has...

Then explain Ivor bells situation ,

Detained on remand charged with aiding and abetting in jean mcconville's murder ,

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

keeponhurling wrote: »

Even if this is after hours, it has gone way off topic. If I was a mod I'd tidy it up a bit.

Anyways, so when are the 48 hours up, and are the PSNI required to give any explanation of why they thought it was worth detaining him for this period?

Maybe they don't need to say anything, and maybe that's right, but I'm pretty curious how something new can turn up after 30 or 40 years

8pm tomorrow and they gave an explanation to a judge who obviously saw enough in it to agree to the extension.

As for something new turning up - who can say?

keeponhurling

I really hope that if there is something that made it worthwhile to interview him, it is released.
Otherwise the PSNI does lose credibility, which is not good.

Arresting him now, after ignoring any inquiry results about other murders from years ago does not seem consistent.

SF have a murky past, but PSNI do need to be held to different standards and be squeaky clean

I Heart Internet

Gatling wrote: »

Then explain Ivor bells situation ,

Detained on remand charged with aiding and abetting in jean mcconville's murder ,

And he's gonna bring Gerry down with him.

Poor Gerry is missing the bank holiday weekend as it is!

tomwaterford

Gatling wrote: »

Then explain Ivor bells situation ,

Detained on remand charged with aiding and abetting in jean mcconville's murder ,

age old solution to republican problems...hold people for months on end...so as they when it geos to trial and if fails they will have had them off the streets for some length of time

taught he was out though?

keeponhurling

Gatling wrote: »

Then explain Ivor bells situation ,

Detained on remand charged with aiding and abetting in jean mcconville's murder ,

That is a good point.
Do you think the Boston College tapes wod be sufficient to charge somebody? Seems spurious to me, as in not enough to convict

It is interesting that Ivor Bell is arrested and a couple of months later Adams is arrested