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breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

Seaneh

Have very little info here but just been told Gerry Adams has been arrested by the PSNI in relation to the McConville case. SF statement expected around 9pm.

I posted this in politics too but I think it's something that will get a lot of attention here as well.

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bumper234

Seaneh wrote: »

Want to make a bet on that one?

A bet on what? That he has been arrested?

Happyman42

Lady Spangles wrote: »

However, the Ombudsman investigated the case and found nothing to suggest Mrs McConville was spying or providing any information to the British army.

Which only means that there was nothing to be found, not that she wasn't an informer.
There is 'nothing to be found' that says Gerry Adams was responsible for her death either by the way, only what 'people say'.

Seaneh

bumper234 wrote: »

A bet on what? That he has been arrested?

There being enough evidence to convict him.

Zubeneschamali

Happyman42 wrote: »

Which only means that there was nothing to be found, not that she wasn't an informer.

Yet If Gerry is released, you'll claim he has been totally vindicated, and go ape every time someone says:

"Which only means that there wasn't enough evidence, not that he didn't murder her".

MonsterCookie

Happyman42 wrote: »

Which only means that there was nothing to be found, not that she wasn't an informer.
There is 'nothing to be found' that says Gerry Adams was responsible for her death either by the way, only what 'people say'.

The psni are investigating this at the moment, so perhaps we should wait and see if they find anything before concluding?

end of the road

bumper234 wrote: »

As happens to every suspected criminal :eek:

unless they were a member of the british army

bumper234

end of the road wrote: »

unless they are a member of the british army

timtime

AlanS181824 wrote: »

Hopefully we gets done for it.

why is that?

delthedriver

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Day 2 in the House.

Gerry asks for a Sky Sports subscription.

...........and some creepy crawlies for dinner !

bumper234

Seaneh wrote: »

There being enough evidence to convict him.

Well they obviously feel they have some evidence otherwise he wouldn't be held for (almost) 48 hours.

twowheelsgood

Seaneh wrote: »

Why would the case of military personal shooting unarmed civilians be dismissed?

Same reason other criminal charges are dismissed. Lack of evidence.

So again, will you be pouring scorn on investigation in this or any other wrongs committed by the BA, unless there is sufficient evidence to lead to a conviction?

Presumably you were similarly scornful of the Saville inquiry that led to zero convictions?

end of the road

bumper234 wrote: »

As happens to most suspected criminals. A file goes to the DPP or whatever the equivalent in NI and they decide if there is enough evidence for a prosecution.....not the PSNI.

unless they were a member of the british army

nelly17

So is my undersanding correct on this - as a result of the Good Friday agreement the most time anyone could do in connection with this is 2 years if convicted and found guilty?

bumper234

end of the road wrote: »

unless they were a member of the british army

Lady Spangles

Happyman42 wrote: »

Which only means that there was nothing to be found, not that she wasn't an informer.
There is 'nothing to be found' that says Gerry Adams was responsible for her death either by the way, only what 'people say'.

So, as far as you're concerned, this absence of evidence in some way adds weight to the suggestion that she was spying? Personally, I favour earth logic.

BTW, I am not at all suggesting Adams was responsible for her death and I apologise if I gave that impression. By no means. I sincerely doubt he had anything to do with it.

crusher000

bumper234 wrote: »

Well they obviously feel they have some evidence otherwise he wouldn't be held for (almost) 48 hours.

If they had enough evidence wouldn't he be arrested and charged ? The fact that he is still being questioned could mean they have jack all evidence.

William F

If there will be one outcome in this fiasco it will be this. Dissident Republicans ill have enough evidence to convince disaffected youths that the peace process isn't working.

Well done Cameron/Kenny/PSNI.

nelly17

William F wrote: »

If there will be one outcome in this fiasco it will be this. Dissident Republicans ill have enough evidence to convince disaffected youths that the peace process isn't working.

Well done Cameron/Kenny/PSNI.

That would be a tragedy

bumper234

crusher000 wrote: »

If they had enough evidence wouldn't he be arrested and charged ? The fact that he is still being questioned could mean they have jack all evidence.

He could be refusing to answer questions.
They may not be happy with his answers.
They may hold him for 30 days.

I don't know but i think everyone expected him to be released after 4 or 5 hours not to be there 2 days later.

bumper234

William F wrote: »

If there will be one outcome in this fiasco it will be this. Dissident Republicans ill have enough evidence to convince disaffected youths that the peace process isn't working.

Well done Cameron/Kenny/PSNI.

Why these 2? What part have they played in his arrest?

crusher000

bumper234 wrote: »

He could be refusing to answer questions.
They may not be happy with his answers.
They may hold him for 30 days.

I don't know but i think everyone expected him to be released after 4 or 5 hours not to be there 2 days later.

Well they obviously feel they have some evidence otherwise he wouldn't be held for (almost) 48 hours.

So they now don't have evidence to convict him. Which one is it?

Jawgap

end of the road wrote: »

unless they were a member of the british army

No they get investigated to by the civilian authorities.....

NI DPP asks police to probe undercover Army unit

William F

nelly17 wrote: »

That would be a tragedy

I'm sure it will be a tragedy for PSNI officers on the beat.

bumper234 wrote: »

Why these 2? What part have they played in his arrest?

Because they stand the most to gain from his arrest.

nelly17

bumper234 wrote: »

He could be refusing to answer questions.
They may not be happy with his answers.
They may hold him for 30 days.

I don't know but i think everyone expected him to be released after 4 or 5 hours not to be there 2 days later.

The refusing to answer questions thing did occour to me but then again he a master at being linguistiaclly evasive, he could keep them going for days without actually giving an answer.

Seaneh

twowheelsgood wrote: »

Same reason other criminal charges are dismissed. Lack of evidence.

So again, will you be pouring scorn on investigation in this or any other wrongs committed by the BA, unless there is sufficient evidence to lead to a conviction?

Presumably you were similarly scornful of the Saville inquiry that led to zero convictions?

But there is an abundance of evidence that on bloody sunday members of the British military murdered unarmed civilians, the case isn't being blocked due to lack of evidence, even a blind man could see that.

bumper234

William F wrote: »

I'm sure it will be a tragedy for PSNI officers on the beat.

Because they stand the most to gain from his arrest.

So are you saying they played an integral role in him being arrested?

bumper234

crusher000 wrote: »

Well they obviously feel they have some evidence otherwise he wouldn't be held for (almost) 48 hours.

So they now don't have evidence to convict him. Which one is it?

Am i in the police station questioning him? Of course i don't know if they have enough evidence to convict him but i do find it strange that he is STILL under arrest and being questioned.

wazky

bumper234 wrote: »

Am i in the police station questioning him? Of course i don't know if they have enough evidence to convict him but i do find it strange that he is STILL under arrest and being questioned.

Maybe they used the power of internment on him?

Seaneh

twowheelsgood wrote: »

Same reason other criminal charges are dismissed. Lack of evidence.

So again, will you be pouring scorn on investigation in this or any other wrongs committed by the BA, unless there is sufficient evidence to lead to a conviction?

Presumably you were similarly scornful of the Saville inquiry that led to zero convictions?

The Saville inquiry was just that, an inquiry, not a trial. The trial which should have followed has been blocked and denied to protect the interestes of the British Military and Government, not because of lack of evidence.

Seaneh

bumper234 wrote: »

Well they obviously feel they have some evidence otherwise he wouldn't be held for (almost) 48 hours.

There is nothing obvious about it tbh, if they had enough evidence to charge him, let alone convict him, why did they wait for him to show up at a station at his own leisure? If they had any evidence or any hopes of a conviction they would have been around his house with a full media circus quicker than you could say "sketch, it's the peelers".