dashcam5586 wrote: » I didnt react sufficiently, didnt brake. Saw it coming and just decided to slide around him. Not the best idea in hindsight. I probably was driving too fast too. Either way, he/she ran the stop sign.
Deleted User wrote: » I wasn't going fast, as it was someone pulled out right in front of me and stopped right in front of me and I had to come to a complete stop!
josip wrote: » Is it instinct, habit or a situational decision whether drivers brake or swerve in those circumstances? I think at low speeds I instinctively swerve to avoid, without checking if swerving was going to cause a bigger problem somewhere else. At higher speeds I think I instinctively brake first, while my brain is trying to work out what to do. I suppose a dashcam would help me to find out what I actually do and not what I think I do. What do advanced driver courses recommend?
runawaybishop wrote: » If you can stop safely then that is preferred. Swerving can lead you into an unforeseen potential accident a lot faster.
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » It always depends on the situation. You're right about swerving, but sometimes it helps. Before the motorway, I was approaching Nenagh and was looking forward to the usual half hour of being stuck in traffic. I rounded the last corner and was greeted with a wall of cars that had stopped and there was no way I could have stopped. I had two choices: 1: Hop on the brakes and hope for the best 2: Swerve into the opposite lane, jam on and hope for the best I chose 2. So, as I see the traffic I slam on and as I was just about to hit the last car, I release the brakes (no ABS in those days), swerve onto other side of the road and slam on again. I skidded just over two car lengths. (I think, this is years ago) I made the decision because there was no oncoming traffic, otherwise it would have been either crash or run into ditch. I don't remember what the side of the road looked like, so I don't know what I would have done in case of oncoming traffic. In that case swerving saved me from a nasty crash, but if any variables had been even slightly different, my course of action would have been different. So in the end you just have to assess the situation and make a decision. There is no "one fits all" solution.
rizzodun wrote: » I'm not saying the good Dr. was wrong but just pointing out people could argue that if you rounded a corner and then had to brake and swerve to avoid stopped traffic then you were driving at a speed too fast for the road conditions.
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » That was definitely the case. Reflexes and luck saved the day from disaster brought on by youthful exuberance and stupidity. I think it was the 90's.
jameshayes wrote: » Good driving from the guy with the cam! edit/ looking back, I cant see the guy with the cams breaking point... did he slow down as much as he could? maybe an advanced driver and didn't want to go into a skid...
Gosub wrote: » Can't agree with that. His braking was late and he went into a closing gap to his right instead of heading for the opening gap to his left. These are things a good driver will do by pure instinct.
jameshayes wrote: » there would have been no reason he would consider going left, the white car looked like it was staying left, only bounced right after 3 rolls
josip wrote: » Camcar was way too late on the brake. She had a few seconds warning before the metal started flying around in front of her and wasn't prepared.
12 element wrote: » She?
Caliden wrote: » Didn't look like he attempted to brake at all. Good driving but he shouldn't have even been in that situation if he just braked. Same thing applies to the black car, if they braked instead of swerved it wouldn't have happened.
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » it was a completely silly and avoidable accident. The white car started to drift over to the left. Black car loses his sh*t, jams on and swerves violently, if you look closely you can see him hitting the white car's rear quarter. Classic pit manoeuvre. Both cars don't stand a chance after that. I would almost blame the black car more for the accident, because he was obviously not paying attention, saw what the white car did too late, panicked and completely overreacted.
Gosub wrote: » The way I see it, he was going left to avoid the black car. When he was still going left the white car's direction was clearly towards the right. If it were me in the camera car I would have definitely kept going left. But in the country the vid was taken (USA?) clearly dramatic swerves are the way to go, so the camera car changed direction to swerve the other way.:)
josip wrote: » So after 6 posts referring to the driver of the camcar as male, you picked up on the first post that referred to the driver as female? Have I missed something from the gif that confirmed the driver was male?
runawaybishop wrote: » Holy Jebus, take it easy 'non-gender specific form of address'. Does it matter a feck what sex the driver was?
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » Wouldn't be Boards if one innocently typed word didn't lead to a 6 page argument.