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Two men fight on the Tube

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Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. Basically the old geezer hits a few digs on the younger lad. The younger lad then flips and hits a few digs back before delivering a knee to the face knocking the old guy unconscious. All the while the man who is filming it is shouting 'Leave it, calm down' :rolleyes:

I honestly am conflicted with this. On one hand the aul geezer done himself no favours but on the other hand he is an old geezer and to knock him unconscious ffs??!!.... He could be up for manslaughter had the aul guy died due to his injuries.
Id like to think the young lad should have controlled himself but he did take a box in the stones.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP63MCUmRYI

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on the river

i wonder how the old guy is now ?

still on the tube maybe

Dan_Solo

If it was the other way around you'd all be saying how awesome it was to see the violent scum thug get what was coming to him.
Age is no excuse for stupidity. If you're out of your league aiming for the nuts will just get you KTFO.

KTRIC

He picked a fight with a lad less than half his age I bet. Then he went for a couple of sly digs at his balls, your man kept quite cool up to that stage and to be frank all the stops are pulled out when someone does that.

If it was me, the auld lad would have gotten worse. I think he got off lightly.

The Bishop Basher

He's an old man. Walk away with your conscience in tact. Albeit with a sore pair of gonads.

Dan_Solo

Troy Lumberjack wrote: »

The young guy has fought a lot, at some stage, so the old boy was a silly git who quite possibly found what he wasn't looking for. The speed the old lad starts throwing punches at a stranger suggests he is a stroppy type - how many people resort to punching and then go for the groin, if you are not used to trying to hurt people? Young buck is cool as a cucumber, clocks him with an elbow, then finishes with his knee - so he's fought a good bit. I do believe they deserve one another, fate threw them together, with the younger lad being the instrument of further education in this case.

Dunno if he's title contender material, but the lad's definitely had a dew classes. The punches weren't all that though, but that knee wouldn't come naturally to most.
The most obvious sign of martial arts training is the restraint to be honest. Right up to the point he flips and then game over. Velly good young grasshopper.

RoboRat

Young lad tried to get up and walk away to be fair to him. Then the old guy went for the balls. All bets were off at that stage.

He wasn't walking away, he was putting his tablet away before throwing a punch.

Dunno if he's title contender material, but the lad's definitely had a dew classes. The punches weren't all that though, but that knee wouldn't come naturally to most. The most obvious sign of martial arts training is the restraint to be honest. Right up to the point he flips and then game over. Velly good young grasshopper.

100%, lad knows a bit alright, controlling the head is a dead giveaway and the knee is also a tell tale as that is not a natural attack for untrained fighters.

The old lad was stupid but one or 2 punches would have sufficed, just to let him know what you can do and that this is a bad idea. If the old lad continues, then another one or two. Absolutely no need for the knee.

cabledude

Anyone tries to hit me in the dingleberries, they are getting a slap. SImple as that.

I wouldn't knee an old chap in the face. Unwarranted. After the elbow to the face and the couple of punches, the old guy was done and dusted. The knee was completely unnecessary.

I was a good knee, however.

OnTheCouch

It does appear unclear whether the younger man was about to walk away before he got the two punches to the balls, or whether it was like many said here, he was just putting his ipad away.

Hard really to know who was to blame without seeing the whole incident, although you can imagine the thought processes of the younger man: he calmly takes a couple of jabs to the head thinking 'OK this guy is old, I'll let him have his moment,' sometimes not reacting to punches is a way of demonstrating how little he is intimidated by the other party.

That having been said, when he then gets up and receives not one but TWO punches to the groin, the first one may have been imagined like 'OK you're really pushing it now' and the second one was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Irrespective of who is doing the hitting, it is extremely difficult to just sit there and keep being hit while doing nothing yourself. The blood pressure continues to rise and rise and the temper threshold gets lower and lower. Eventually you just have to leave or fight back and even though the latter is probably the least sensible option, it is perfectly understandable.

kupus

Rhys Essien wrote: »

The old lad could have been mentally ill to start hitting the young lad but how hard was it for the young fella to just walk away.What he did was pure scum.Knocking an OAP out ffs.:mad:

THe old lad could have been a scumbag all his life and this is his first time he was caught on camera doing his usual scumbag stuff.

razorblunt

He wasn't walking away he looked to be putting his tablet in the bag. The old fella had a dig coming his way at the very least, but the knee is completely unwarranted.
You'd hope to have the calm mind to restrain the old fella without punching but throwing one or two is fair enough, the knee is completely unwarranted.

The camera phone holder is the bigger scumbag, secretely hoping it would kick off.

kneemos

We don't know what went before.
Maybe the old guy had been intimidating him and he lost the rag.If he had his tablet out chances are the young guy was minding his own business.

looksee

But if people had only seen the end of the fight the young guy would have been seen to make an unprovoked attack. He did end up over-reacting though.

I Heart Internet

We still don't know what led up to the fight....was it just an argument over an arm-rest or what??

Having said that, the young guy was right to "defend himself" (although he could have restrained the old guy and waited for the po po), but the final knee was reckless and potentially lethal. Asking for a manslaughter charge doing that.

Grayditch

The sack punch from the aul lad was a low blow. Literally. But he's an aul fella going nuts, he could have dementia, or maybe he's locked.

As for the young lad, I mean its not cool to put that much power into sorting out a little aul fella. Some members of the public are going about their day to day business, looking quite normal, but could be on a the verge of snapping at minute, due to unseen stress.

I'd like to think with a sounder mind, and without being hit in the jaffas, he wouldn't lay into an aul dude like that.

I think that anger came from somewhere else, but he's lucky if that little old head is still working after that knee. Bad buzz.

Dan_Solo

Grayditch wrote: »

I think that anger came from somewhere else, but he's lucky if that little old head is still working after that knee. Bad buzz.

Take it you've never got one in the nuts then.
I'd kill an orphanage in the few seconds afterwards.

Dyr

Grayditch wrote: »

I think that anger came from somewhere else, but he's lucky if that little old head is still working after that knee. Bad buzz.

You get a couple of schneaky ball punches and you don't need anger to be coming from anywhere else

frozenfrozen

People only stand up and start shouting calm down after the young guy starts attacking back. What's that about? Why weren't they shouting when the old lad started hitting him in the face? He tried to punch him in the balls, forget about leaving him off because he's old, he knew what he was trying to do and he got knocked out, of course it looks scummy that he kicked him in the face, fighting on a tube is scummy.

top madra

Just going by what we can see, the old guy had it coming BUT there was no need for the knee as he had him already overpowered by the elbow and punches.

In the end he just made himself look like a scumbag for going too far.

johnnyvegas22

young lad should of walked away, no need to be hitting oap's

bumper234

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

young lad should of walked away, no need to be hitting oap's

And no need for OAP's to be punching a man in the nuts.

johnnyvegas22

bumper234 wrote: »

And no need for OAP's to be punching a man in the nuts.

if that happened to me i would of walked away, the guards would take the old chaps side,

bumper234

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

if that happened to me i would of walked away, the guards would take the old chaps side,

If it happened to me i would have knocked the old ****er out as well. If he is young enough to fight (dirty) he is young enough to get ****ed up when he boxes above his weight.

Ray Palmer

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

if that happened to me i would of walked away, the guards would take the old chaps side,

And where would these magical guards appear from? It isn't like you can instantly make them be there when you want them.

Let not forget a woman killed a man in China by attacking him in the genitals. One of those punches could actually have killed the young man.

If somebody hit you there you there it can set off a rage reaction in anybody. Those saying they would walk away may never experienced this. I broke a friends arm once when he attacked me from behind as a joke. I didn't know who it was and I just reacted.

Knex*

While the knee was excessive, as he had already 'sorted' the old guy out, I find it very hard to have sympathy for anyone who starts the fight. Let alone someone swinging for the nads.

Over the top, probably. But old guy can't complain.

Jake Rugby Walrus666

Just as well there were a couple of bystanders to caution "Calm down, calm down" to the protagonists. They augmented their verbal warning with the universal calm down hand gesture. Without this calming influence things might have got out of hand.

Dan_Solo

johnnyvegas22 wrote: »

if that happened to me i would of walked away, the guards would take the old chaps side,

Do you think the police would do anything?
What happens if this old geezer takes offense at some old woman next and thumps her in the face? Never too old to learn a lesson.

Grayditch

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Take it you've never got one in the nuts then.
I'd kill an orphanage in the few seconds afterwards.

It's deffo a strong catalyst, alright. Just nor sure I'd land that last knee, now. Guess I'll find out if a wrinkly lad ever punches my wrinkly lad.

cabledude

Jake Rugby Walrus666 wrote: »

Just as well there were a couple of bystanders to caution "Calm down, calm down" to the protagonists. They augmented their verbal warning with the universal calm down hand gesture. Without this calming influence things might have got out of hand.

You used the plural of protagonist. That was incorrect. There was only one protagonist here. The old guy.

GrumPy

Wonder what the context was? Or was there? (no audio, in office atm)
Ball shot was a cheap one, like another poster said; all bets are off. Fúck that cheapshot business!
Swift knee to the face was a little excessive though..

FunLover18

I have a bigger problem with your man filming, why didn't he try and stop ... oh yeh, because then he wouldn't get any hits on youtube. It had clearly been going on for a while given he had time to take out his phone and start filming.