Tramps Like Us wrote: » Why don't you elaborate... Its true that the media never mention that at least one of her kids was in the IRA (and jailed when his mother was killed). The story for years, which was obviously a lie, was that she was killed for comforting a dying British soldier. Or its also said she was killed for being a protestant (she married a catholic, was burned out of her home in a unionist area and moved to Divis and converted to catholicism). This is the type of myth building I'm on about -its not justified, what we should deal with is fact.
Fratton Fred wrote: » Her son was in the OIRA, not the PIRA, she was also married to an ex British soldier who died earlier the same year. The family lived in temporary accommodation and only moved in to the Divis flats a few days before her murder. The review by the ombudsmen found no evidence she was passing information on to the British army. Those are the facts.
.jacksparrow. wrote: » The ombudsmen? Please.
Little CuChulainn wrote: » Who needs an Ombudsman when you've got a grapevine.
dj jarvis wrote: » a grapevine that is bugged , apparently
For Forks Sake wrote: » Dear medics of AH, is their any known cure for the overdose of whataboutery I've endured reading this thread?
tomwaterford wrote: » well if you play like that the british haven't a great record when it comes to courts....
MadsL wrote: » Justifying it then. "Collaborators will be shot" being your line. Really?
Karl Stein wrote: » Ethel Rosenberg. The US government executed a Ethel Rosenberg for collaborating with the Soviets leaving two children without a Mother and when they executed Julius Rosenberg they orphaned them.
donfers wrote: » hmmm.....this could backfire, the electorate are not morons (well, a lot of them aren't anyway). This could actually raise Sinn Fein's vote - I'd like to think so anyway, people don't like being railroaded by the establishment at election time into voting this way or that (and the police aren't exactly flavour of the month, in terms of trust and integrity in the Republic anyway and I'm sure the PSNI will be viewed similarily)
The Aussie wrote: » Neither do the Adams's, I wonder if this one can flee south... Just saying like.
P_1 wrote: » Is that kosher legally with the PSNI arresting a TD?
The Aussie wrote: » So your wrong (your stated execution story) plus the IRA'a wrong still don't add up to any of it being Right, come back to us when you actually have a point. Thanks.
mickydoomsux wrote: » But the murdering terrorists won't be viewed similarly?
seamus wrote: » Yes, TDs don't automatically have diplomatic immunity. It's "complicated" but that's about it. I also understand that Gerry is a citizen of the UK so that makes it much less complicated. If Gerry had been in the Republic, he could have claimed he was on his way to Leinster House and he'd be free from arrest, but the North is a different country so he can be arrested as required.
donfers wrote: » People like you who describe them in those terms were never likely to vote for them anyway, Sinn Fein are targeting a younger more liberal and progressive-minded electorate, they're just going to grow and grow - that's the reality, some people like living in the past and are consumed by their own bitterness (and that's understandable) but others are trying to find a way forward - this will not hurt Sinn Fein, those who hate them will always hate them but because of the state of the other parties in Ireland and the lack of viable alternatives to establishment politics, Sinn Fein is going to reap the rewards of this disillusion unless a new party comes along pronto
Stheno wrote: » Nope extradition far too well established between us and the North, I lived in Portlaoise near the prison during the 1980s extradition protests, they still went ahead with the extraditions
dj jarvis wrote: » and that makes it ok how?
The Aussie wrote: » So your wrong (your stated execution story)
plus the IRA'a wrong still don't add up to any of it being Right,
come back to us when you actually have a point.
