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Are "social smokers" just kidding themselves?

I Heart Internet

People who, when asked by medics or others if they smoke, say "I'm just a social smoker." I think they're kidding themselves. They are smokers.

Unless one lives and smokes as a hermit in a cave, you smoke "socially". I think it's just a phrase used by smokers who don't want to admit that they really smoke. Ditto "social drinkers".

What do you think AH?

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bmwguy

I only drink when I am smoking. In all honesty though, I look forward to smoking at weekends and drink for that purpose sometimes! Don't even want to drink but go drinking so I can justify smoking. Madness, but there you go!

The Backwards Man

I used to smoke OPs, but they are more or less disappeared now, can't get them anywhere.

The Backwards Man

GenieOz wrote: »

I drink on average I'd say about once every 2 months, that's also the only time that I'll smoke.
I would consider myself a social smoker as I smoke about 20 cigarettes a year..if you want to call me a smoker then fine, I don't really mind.

'Smokers' in the general sense would be those that actively smoke and smell of smoke etc.

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

I Heart Internet

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

I agree with the first part. Not sure your second statement is correct!

Drakares

I Heart Internet wrote: »

So you're a smoker?

Yes he is, because he doesn't smoke as often as people who are defined as "smokers" it is actually okay to add the word "social" in beforehand. Why are you so offended by this?

Knex*

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

Is this some sort of homeopathic cigarette?

KingOfFairview

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

Would you ever stop talking dog**** :rolleyes:

I Heart Internet

Drakares wrote: »

Yes he is, because he doesn't smoke as often as people who are defined as "smokers" it is actually okay to add the word "social" in beforehand. Why are you so offended by this?

I just think they're kidding themselves. A smoker is a smoker.

bmwguy

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

Are you sure? So no benefit in me quitting then?? Thanks, I wanted to for health reasons but I'll keep on puffing away now

[Deleted User]

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Are self-proclaimed "social-smokers" just kidding themselves. Adding the "social" bit to soften the blow to their eager or in an attept to portray themselves as not quite a smoker.

A bit like me saying I'm a social-drinker. That just means I'm a drinker.

It very simple really. A person describes themselves as a social smoker because they are confirming that yes they smoke but only do so in a social setting and not everyday of the week as a full-time smoker would.

Its very simple really and makes perfect sense.

A better drinker comparison would be the difference between a social drinker and an alcoholic as other have pointed out.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

You are way off with that statement. A couple of cigarettes every now and then is not going to do anything on you.

Drakares

I Heart Internet wrote: »

I just think they're kidding themselves. A smoker is a smoker.

So here's a scenario. I smoked a fag 6 months ago when I was blind drunk and my colleague here smokes 10 a day. Are we both smokers?

Furthermore, a doctor asks us both if we smoke. Do we both answer simply with "yes"?

keane2097

Seems worth asking what the value is in blindly classifying people into two big, brash categories is when there's very obviously an entire spectrum of behaviour?

A bit like this gem here which ignores entire swathes of people with myriad preferences in terms of the much safer and easier to decide which side you're on worldview of "quares and straights".

comongethappy wrote: »

Same as:

"I only sleep with members of the same sex when I'm out drinking on the weekend.

I'm not gay though."

The Backwards Man

I Heart Internet wrote: »

I agree with the first part. Not sure your second statement is correct!

Might be a bit of a slight exaggeration, but there is no such thing as a safe level when it comes to cigarettes.

KingOfFairview

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Might be a bit of a slight exaggeration, but there is no such thing as a safe level when it comes to cigarettes.

Yes there is.

I Heart Internet

Harley Bumpy Dropout wrote: »

A better drinker comparison would be the difference between a social drinker and an alcoholic as other have pointed out.

Fair enough.

Harley Bumpy Dropout wrote: »

You are way off with that statement. A couple of cigarettes every now and then is not going to do anything on you.

Well that's just not true and points to why your drinker point above is dodgy. A single cigarette can trigger the cell mutation in the lung that gives you cancer.

I Heart Internet

Drakares wrote: »

So here's a scenario. I smoked a fag 6 months ago when I was blind drunk and my colleague here smokes 10 a day. Are we both smokers?"

Yes. You're a recovering smoker.

Drakares wrote: »

Furthermore, a doctor asks us both if we smoke. Do we both answer simply with "yes"?

No. You both say yes and follow it up with the frequency.

Drakares

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If you smoke one fag a year I would consider you a smoker. One cigarette does as much harm as one hundred.

You are also a smoker then. You are constantly inhaling fumes similar to that of a cigarette in any case when you walk down the town.

Maximus Alexander

Are there honestly people who feel that there is no difference, no sort of sliding scale between smoking 5 cigarettes on a Friday night and smoking 280 a week? As someone who used to smoke about 120 a week, I can assure you there's a difference.

The mind, it boggles.

I Heart Internet

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Are there honestly people who feel that there is no difference, no sort of sliding scale between smoking 5 cigarettes on a Friday night and smoking 280 a week? As someone who used to smoke about 120 a week, I can assure you there's a difference.

The mind, it boggles.

There's a huge difference. But both people are smokers.

[Deleted User]

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Well that's just not true and points to why your drinker point above is dodgy. A single cigarette can trigger the cell mutation in the lung that gives you cancer.

I don't believe that occasional smoking is of much risk at all and certainly not on the level of one triggering cell mutation.

People have wildly different views of what social drinking is also you have to remember. What I count only having a few others would call a large amount of drink etc.

Maximus Alexander

I Heart Internet wrote: »

There's a huge difference. But both people are smokers.

"EVERYTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE!!"

"This is gray."

"IT'S BLACK THEN!"

I Heart Internet

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

"EVERYTHING IS BLACK OR WHITE!!"

"This is gray."

"IT'S BLACK THEN!"

Smokey grey.

The Backwards Man

Drakares wrote: »

You are also a smoker then. You are constantly inhaling fumes similar to that of a cigarette in any case when you walk down the town.

And if I was smoking I'd be inhaling more toxins, thus increasing the risk to my health.

R P McMurphy

Harley Bumpy Dropout wrote: »

I don't believe that occasional smoking is of much risk at all and certainly not on the level of one triggering cell mutation.

People have wildly different views of what social drinking is also you have to remember. What I count only having a few others would call a large amount of drink etc.

Any single cigarette could trigger cell mutation. Could be your first ever one, then again you could smoke 80 a day from 16 to 86 and it never happen.

OldNotWIse

I dont understand the point of this. I smoke when I am out drinking. How am I kidding myself?

I Heart Internet

OldNotWIse wrote: »

I dont understand the point of this. I smoke when I am out drinking. How am I kidding myself?

You're not, unless you say that "I don't smoke." or "I'm not a smoker." or say that "I'm a social smoker" and think that means that you're not a real smoker.

Other than that, you're fine. Go for it*

*Actually I'd advise you to quit...

Idle Passerby

The clue is in the name. Social Smokers

thorbarry

load of pony

OldNotWIse

I Heart Internet wrote: »

You're not, unless you say that "I don't smoke." or "I'm not a smoker." or say that "I'm a social smoker" and think that means that you're not a real smoker.

Other than that, you're fine. Go for it*

*Actually I'd advise you to quit...

What's a "real smoker"???? more to the point, whats a faux smoker?

I Heart Internet

OldNotWIse wrote: »

What's a "real smoker"???? more to the point, whats a faux smoker?

Real smoker = someone who smokes

Some people would have you believe that "social smoker" != smoker