thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Cork midfield struggled in the ist half ,id agree Sham and connorzee,but I wouldnt say cleaned out ,as roscommon won breaking ball ,than a lot clean ball,particulary of fulgnatti wing,he was too slow to read breaking ball.Maguire had a fine 2nd half,,and Hanlon should stayed in there .
Gary Neville wrote: » Just joking - they were both very poor - Fulignati was being cleaned out but so were most of the defenders. O Hanlon contributed nothing - we were cleaned out at MF.
Gary Neville wrote: » Woeful defending - defending is as important as attacking - Cork took their goals very well but the ref cost them 4/5 pts - he was one of the most biased refs I've ever seen.
Always_Running wrote: » .....and TBH there was no sign of that defending in the 1st half from Roscommon.
Always_Running wrote: » It was role reversal from the Munster final when the Tipp goals kept them in the game today the goals kept Cork in it. Trust me for how well taken the goals were no person would be happy with that type of defending and TBH there was no sign of that defending in the 1st half from Roscommon.
ShamoBuc wrote: » That was probably because the cork forwards got little or no ball.
manofwisdom wrote: » The last free was a correct call Cork supporters going on about the referee doesn't look too well TBH. Roscommon were at least five points a better team and would have been a travesty if they didn't win. Cork not as good as some here originally thought. Dublin found it tough to break down a well organised Cavan however if they played Cork they would have won comfortably as they wouldn't have given away soft goals like the rossies did. The Best two U-21 sides in the final same as 2012.
Syferus wrote: » Cork would have beaten Dublin on today's evidence. Cork's forwards and wing backs are electric. Dublin got socked a little in that Cavan are so good defensively they can make any set of forwards look bad but I would probably favour Cork in a Cork-Dublin match. That means nothing for us because the match-ups are different and Dublin's strengths can certainly expose our weaknesses.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Meehan goal against us last year,that shocking ,from the free for cork. Mac eoin in comparison had real venom and that was like ronald koeoman 1991 goal v man utd,sealey got hand to it,such force couldnt stop it .
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Theres simply no point in even trying to debate when someone says cork cant complain with the ref Aside from the last call,was numerous appalling callrp by him Watched it tg4 ,again and macgerailt a kerry man sa4d was poor refferring.
Gary Neville wrote: » I was at the game but taped it and watched the seconf half last night. There is no doubt that Cork played very poorly in the first half and probably deserved to be down by more than 6 pts at HT but they showed huge characted in the 2nd half. Let's be 100% clear about this - The performance of the Ref was appalling - any fair and neutral appraisal of his decision making in the 2nd half could only conclude that he robbed Cork. Cork came back time and time again and each time, he awarded 'phantom frees' to restore Roscommon's advantage. Very fews teams whould have the guts to keep getting up from the floor. Here's a few examples - In the last 5 minutes there was 2 clear black card offences - The Ros No 9 dragged Maguire to the ground making no attempt to play the ball and then their No 4 dragged Cagogan to the ground, again making no attempt to play the ball - exactly the scenario that Black Cards are there for. The list of 'phantom frees' is enormous. The worst were - Sugrue did very well to win possession in the left corner and was blown for a 'foul' on the defender. McGearailt said it was not a free. The most blatant was a miss from a Ros player Smith and the Ref called it back for a 'free' - never in a million years (McGearailt 'Cic Saor Bog') - Crowley punched a high ball and the ref called it a push in the back. There was 3/4 times that a Cork player got in fast and kicked the ball away before a Ros Played could pick it up - these were examples of good defending yet frees were awarded (again McGearailt criticised the decisions) 2 Frees were taken at least 3 meters nearer the goals - BOD fouled a Ros player but his momentum and a few rolls carried him forward 3M to the 45M line - BOD was booked as he lay in the spot of th foul 48m out - the free was taken and scored 44m out - that's a gain of 4M - also the winning free - it's very clear by reference to the shadow from the stand that the Ros player narrowed his angle by 3M as he ran to take the free - making it far more scorable - should hve been retaken or hop ball (again very obvious on TV) It's absurd to say that Ros were a better side - they were far better in the 1st half and Cork were far better in the 2nd - the difference was that Ros got 5/6 scores from frees that were definately not frees - without those, it would have been a totally different game. As for the Cork goals being soft - absolute nonsense - Cadogan's goal was asuperb solo effort - he's been destroying defences all year and it was due to individual brilliance, not poor defence (same as the Ros goal) - Sugrue's goal was typical of this Cork Side's heart, he disposseed the Ros player brilliantly and the movement was exquisite - Maguire's pass and Surgrue's finish wee exquisite. McEoin's shot was a bullet and one of the best goals you will see at this level. All 4 goals were down to fantastic forward play and not poor defending. Cork should have and would have deserved to win this game by 3 points and were robbed by the most disgraceful exhibition of reffing I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen bad ones before. I'm taking nothing away from Roscommon who are a fine side but I challenge anyone to look at the 2nd half and tell me that the ref did not rob Cork.
blowitupref wrote: » On another day the last Cork goal could have flew over the bar or hit one of the many defenders on the line nothing great about those type of goals IMO more hit and hope than anything else tough without it yesterday we wouldn't have the late drama. No offense but that is one of the most biased posts i have ever read on here. Cork did not deserve to win that game never mind by 3 points. Yes the ref was poor however no matter how hard it is for you or others to accept the best team won.
Connorzee wrote: » That ref shouldnt be left near an intercounty game again, same for the Cavan game. Let them ref away at club level where they belong. Disgraceful