Always_Running wrote: » Spot on. If Ros had be leading by 4 or 5 points like they deserved to be at the time its unlikely the Cork forward have tried his luck with that last goal. Cork have some knowledgeable posters on here to read the sour grapes comments from them and not accept the best team won is disappointing.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Gary cork must raise it ,hoewever theres bigger issues in referring also that must be addressed. Fergal Horgan referee played in goal for tipp and I belive won an all ireland in goal for them.A fine keeper He played senior,u21 hurling also.Senior in 98 briefly. He is a member of knockavilla Donaskeigh club. Brian Horgan the current senior kerry coach is ?a memeber same club tipp,he was a good hurler again played tipp minor,u21 and was a solid intercounty man . Kelly Is manager kerry(fine coach),but Brian is coach. Brian and fergal played on club teams togtether,how was it practial for kerry to play carlow div hurling final with fergal Horgan referring when he knew brian the coach so well,and thats just Wrong.Im suprised no one picked up this and objected. And I would like to ask the question,again not stating its 100 per cent ,but is Brian and fergal related??.If so thats grand, but no way should he managed that match . Point ,i raising this,is due thought and consideration isnt put in to appointing refs and that must be looked at . Carlow lost to kerry and lost in group game,so they were just beaten by a better team ,however no way should he managed that game .Of all the refs availble not that lad.Of course twas in thurles ,so handy out for the gaa get a local man there . Typical gaa ,and yesterday was a farce as that ref shouldnt get a game or must be held accountable and explain yesterday before he gets a game again but no,wont be a dicky board bout it . It sickening to be beaten by one sided refs. To the posters ,say cork are whinging and that are just rubbing it in regards the ref,its a long long season,and what goes around comes around.Be interesting when there on bad end of poor referring,how they jump from there high horse.They would do well to remember that .Interesting and long ,long season to go yet .
Syferus wrote: » You may not say cleaned out but we clearly dominated the sector over the match. Maguire only made a couple catches in the second half, the only reason they even stood out was because he was kept so silent besides that. Corcoran bet his man, as did a barely fit Harney, and Nally was probably the best of the lot in the middle third. I had no worries about the middle and I knew our lads could go man-to-man beat their opposite numbers. You'll be hearing plenty about our U21 midfielders in future.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » 100 per cent agree Gary The two lads posting otherwise are just clear as day posting to get a reaction.You hear practially nothing from them in the lead up to the game,wonderfully brave pundits now to stick the knife in to cork when there to cork after . When a kerryman defends us surely to god it meadm we had reason to complain. The real beauty ,he gave them advantage,they miss then gives them a free in. Every time cork came back,momentum swung soft frees.when we had down to a point he really showed the class.
blowitupref wrote: » On another day the last Cork goal could have flew over the bar or hit one of the many defenders on the line nothing great about those type of goals IMO more hit and hope than anything else tough without it yesterday we wouldn't have the late drama. No offense but that is one of the most biased posts i have ever read on here. Cork did not deserve to win that game never mind by 3 points. Yes the ref was poor however no matter how hard it is for you or others to accept the best team won.
Connorzee wrote: » That ref shouldnt be left near an intercounty game again, same for the Cavan game. Let them ref away at club level where they belong. Disgraceful
Gary Neville wrote: » I was at the game but taped it and watched the seconf half last night. There is no doubt that Cork played very poorly in the first half and probably deserved to be down by more than 6 pts at HT but they showed huge characted in the 2nd half. Let's be 100% clear about this - The performance of the Ref was appalling - any fair and neutral appraisal of his decision making in the 2nd half could only conclude that he robbed Cork. Cork came back time and time again and each time, he awarded 'phantom frees' to restore Roscommon's advantage. Very fews teams whould have the guts to keep getting up from the floor. Here's a few examples - In the last 5 minutes there was 2 clear black card offences - The Ros No 9 dragged Maguire to the ground making no attempt to play the ball and then their No 4 dragged Cagogan to the ground, again making no attempt to play the ball - exactly the scenario that Black Cards are there for. The list of 'phantom frees' is enormous. The worst were - Sugrue did very well to win possession in the left corner and was blown for a 'foul' on the defender. McGearailt said it was not a free. The most blatant was a miss from a Ros player Smith and the Ref called it back for a 'free' - never in a million years (McGearailt 'Cic Saor Bog') - Crowley punched a high ball and the ref called it a push in the back. There was 3/4 times that a Cork player got in fast and kicked the ball away before a Ros Played could pick it up - these were examples of good defending yet frees were awarded (again McGearailt criticised the decisions) 2 Frees were taken at least 3 meters nearer the goals - BOD fouled a Ros player but his momentum and a few rolls carried him forward 3M to the 45M line - BOD was booked as he lay in the spot of th foul 48m out - the free was taken and scored 44m out - that's a gain of 4M - also the winning free - it's very clear by reference to the shadow from the stand that the Ros player narrowed his angle by 3M as he ran to take the free - making it far more scorable - should hve been retaken or hop ball (again very obvious on TV) It's absurd to say that Ros were a better side - they were far better in the 1st half and Cork were far better in the 2nd - the difference was that Ros got 5/6 scores from frees that were definately not frees - without those, it would have been a totally different game. As for the Cork goals being soft - absolute nonsense - Cadogan's goal was asuperb solo effort - he's been destroying defences all year and it was due to individual brilliance, not poor defence (same as the Ros goal) - Sugrue's goal was typical of this Cork Side's heart, he disposseed the Ros player brilliantly and the movement was exquisite - Maguire's pass and Surgrue's finish wee exquisite. McEoin's shot was a bullet and one of the best goals you will see at this level. All 4 goals were down to fantastic forward play and not poor defending. Cork should have and would have deserved to win this game by 3 points and were robbed by the most disgraceful exhibition of reffing I've seen in my lifetime and I've seen bad ones before. I'm taking nothing away from Roscommon who are a fine side but I challenge anyone to look at the 2nd half and tell me that the ref did not rob Cork.
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Meehan goal against us last year,that shocking ,from the free for cork. Mac eoin in comparison had real venom and that was like ronald koeoman 1991 goal v man utd,sealey got hand to it,such force couldnt stop it .
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: » Theres simply no point in even trying to debate when someone says cork cant complain with the ref Aside from the last call,was numerous appalling callrp by him Watched it tg4 ,again and macgerailt a kerry man sa4d was poor refferring.
Syferus wrote: » Cork would have beaten Dublin on today's evidence. Cork's forwards and wing backs are electric. Dublin got socked a little in that Cavan are so good defensively they can make any set of forwards look bad but I would probably favour Cork in a Cork-Dublin match. That means nothing for us because the match-ups are different and Dublin's strengths can certainly expose our weaknesses.
manofwisdom wrote: » The last free was a correct call Cork supporters going on about the referee doesn't look too well TBH. Roscommon were at least five points a better team and would have been a travesty if they didn't win. Cork not as good as some here originally thought. Dublin found it tough to break down a well organised Cavan however if they played Cork they would have won comfortably as they wouldn't have given away soft goals like the rossies did. The Best two U-21 sides in the final same as 2012.
ShamoBuc wrote: » That was probably because the cork forwards got little or no ball.
Always_Running wrote: » It was role reversal from the Munster final when the Tipp goals kept them in the game today the goals kept Cork in it. Trust me for how well taken the goals were no person would be happy with that type of defending and TBH there was no sign of that defending in the 1st half from Roscommon.
