irish_stevo815 wrote: » Just catching up on Countdown... Bloody hell the best of Raw one is just an hour long advertisement for the Monday Night Wars show
Ape Lincoln wrote: » Haven't watched it cause these "Best of Raw" shows are usually awful. Were any wrestling matches featured?
irish_stevo815 wrote: » Yeah I'm usually the same. There were 2 matches featured, more so about the result than the match
Ape Lincoln wrote: » Hate it when these "best moments of Raw" include awful convoluted stuff like Austin driving a beer truck or something.
jaykhunter wrote: » Go google search WrestleMania 27 1.9 million buys for me.
While the official buyrate is still months away from being released, early estimates for the WrestleMania 29 pay-per-view are coming in and they do not look good. Even though WWE stated publicly that they were confident that WM29 show would sell similarly to last year's record-breaking show, the company substantially lowered their internal projections in days leading up to WrestleMania. According to one source, the WrestleMania 29 buyrate is "downright shocking
The WWE made the announcement that WrestleMania is estimated at doing nearly 400,000 domestic PPV buys, and claiming that a record 1 million U.S. households watched the show. With the network, it should have been a lock that more U.S. homes would watch the show than any previous show. The first thing that should be noted is that “nearly 400,000" number in the sense WWE’s original announcements have traditionally been optimistic. The last two years’ first announcements at this point in time were 1.3 million and 1.2 million, because PPV buy estimates are an inexact science. This is not the idea of making up numbers, because it’s a public company, and I believe the estimates were what they expected to end up with when they made them. As silly as this sounds in 2014, even the best estimates, weeks after the show, can be off by quite a bit when you already have actual numbers in hand. The actual final numbers were 1,219,000 and 1,104,000 worldwide respectively. That’s not to say this year’s eventual number will be higher or lower than the first announcement, just the past two years have ended up each being nearly 100,000 lower. Still, the PPV number is great as the WWE had budgeted approximately 295,000 buys between the U.S. and Canada on PPV. The idea that the 667,000 network subscribers and “nearly 400,000" domestic breaks one million isn’t necessarily the case. It’s virtually impossible it is the case, because of overlapping and also questions as to how many network subscribers are really from the U.S. WWE pushed that more homes saw WrestleMania in the U.S. than any time in history. That should have been the case with the low price and new technology. There’s also a better than even chance it’s not true, based on how many of those 667,287 network subscribers aren’t from the U.S., as well as the percentage of network subscribers who ordered the show on traditional PPV because of all the streaming problems the network had up to that point in time. According to those in WWE, the “nearly 400,000" domestic figure does not include Canada, meaning just as the show didn’t do what the company estimated as far as network buys, it did considerably better on the PPV front. With a projection of 295,000 PPV buys between U.S. and Canada on PPV, that would really only figure to be 235,000 or so in the U.S., since one would expect 60,000 of the buys from Canada if one assumes Canadians for the most part don’t get the network (which could be a faulty assumption). But if you assume a lot of Canadians did get the network, that would also assume as well as U.K. residents did, and a strong number of other foreign residents did, the 667,000 number is not a U.S. number. And for sure it’s not. Our own polling indicated 63 percent of the network subscribers were from the U.S. (420,000). I believe that is faulty on the low side, but with no evidence of that past a hunch. But it does indicate the U.S. subscribers are also probably not even near 667,000. There are also people who subscribe to the network that didn’t watch Mania either live, later, or on PPV. I know of many people who ordered the network for the historical content that no longer watch the product, and didn’t watch Mania. Our own polling indicated just under 70 percent of those in the U.S. with the network watched WrestleMania live, with 13 percent not having watched it yet, 11 percent watching it on PPV instead and six percent watching it after the fact. If anything, we would be skewed significantly on the high side there, not the low side. So that would indicate WrestleMania viewers both live and delayed on the network at 447,000 total, and again, you have to figure what the legitimate percentage of those viewing the network from outside the U.S. is. Given our polling, it comes to 282,000, but again, I think that’s a low figure, but the real figure would be between those numbers. But no matter which of the two figures (282,000 and 447,000) is closer to the mark, the number is far lower than anyone could have expected, just as the PPV number is far higher. The combined figure would be more than last year’s Mania in the U.S. even under a worst case scenario, but is likely in the ballpark of the 2012 Mania for total U.S. viewership and is probably below the 1989, 2001 and 2007 versions.
rovert wrote: » The Ultimate Warrior Legend doc is getting rave reviews. Better (and obviously sadder) than the Daniel Bryan WWE Network doc.
The Ayatolla wrote: » Is the format the same as the D-Bryan one? Following him around for the week-ish?
A Rogue Hobo wrote: » 1) Whilst a small percentage of foreigners are subscribing currently, it's a minority and should barely make a dent into what the revenue the Network will earn after it's first year in a "U.S only" release.
rovert wrote: » Yep. It isn't a cheap re-edit of Warriors 2014 DVD.
The Ayatolla wrote: » The negativity surrounding the network is astounding. The amount of "fans" hoping it fails is unbelievable. Jumping all over any possible cracks. Christ above. "it's doomed!" "the price will go up!" "Wrestlemania will be taken off next year!" " they're calling PPVs "Special events"!!!!!! Jesus they've just shown the first PPV, numbers have been a success by all means, it's due to launch in some huge countries by January next year, and content is looking great thus far. It's barely 2 months young.
ShagNastii wrote: » Whilst we're talking about Worldwide VS US only, the world market for WWE where is it and who is likely to insta-buy the network when it's released worldwide? I know Europe will lap up the release of the WWE Network. Could it out do the states? And where are the likes of Asia and Latin America for the E?
Monokne wrote: » Do you actually have that number? I was under the impression no one, not even WWE had that number. Are you just guessing? I know Mookieghana was estimating 40,000 while a poll on the Observer site had an incredibly high percentage, but given that's the hardest of hardcores, it's bound to skew very high. I would guess anywhere between 5 & 15%. If it were hard to do then I'd go lower, but it's incredibly simple so I'd say you're looking at 10%+, maybe 70,000. I can easily believe there are 70,000 people outside the USA who really want this network and are willing to use Unblock US or whatever to access it.
A Rogue Hobo wrote: » Most of my friends that are big wrestling fans still haven't even seen the network because they're afraid something will go wrong and they wouldn't exactly be technologically inept.
Reebrock wrote: » Sorry if this has been talked to death elsewhere, but am I able to watch the WWE Network on my Xbox One? As in, download the Network App and watch properly? Or even through the web browser on Xbox One via the US Unblock websites? Thank You
Deleted User wrote: » hasn't been launched on xbox one yet and you cant watch through the browser. Should launch in the summer.
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