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Kurt Cobain died 20 years ago today

ceadaoin.

I still find it hard to grasp that the 90s was 20 years ago! I was a bit obsessed with him and nirvana as a teenager but only got into them a year or so after he died so I don't remember his death at all. Strangely I do remember watching the news about Ayrton Senna dying which was the same year. I remember a few years later a friend of my mams saying he still had his ticket for the nirvana gig in Ireland that they never got to play. Wonder if he still has it

Anyone here majorly upset when he died?

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Rothko

I was 4 when he died so I just about remember them. About 10 years later, I started listening to them and they became my first favourite band. I was obsessed with them and I still like them. I remember the 10th anniversary and it doesn't seem like it should be that long ago. I'm feeling old

NegativeCreep

Sky arts have some shows about nirvana and Kurt from 11 tonight.
Was only a few months old when he died so I hadn't a clue but still love the music!

LadyBetty

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Sky arts have some shows about nirvana and Kurt from 11 tonight.

Thanks, I have now set it to record!

dudara

His passing is still a source of sadness. He was *hot* in an era of grunge looking guys but more than that, he articulated something that most of us couldn't express. Suicide theories aside, he just wasn't able for the world.

Duff

I remember hearing about Cobain's suicide going to school; it registered with me as I have a cousin who was massive into them back then, who I thought was the coolest person ever. She would ultimately help lead me down a musical left-hand path as I got older and Nirvana would subsequently become one of my favourite bands.

Nirvana are one of the few bands from my formative years of listening to music who I still think are as vital now as I did then. In Utero especially is still an album that I hold in absolutely massive regard - it's harsh, abrasive and embodies about as much a punk spirit as it was for a band like Nirvana to have, given their popularity at the time.

Huge band, with a huge importance to me and many like me. "...Muddy Banks..." was one of the first albums I bought myself on my 6th class school tour.

Mental that it's 20 years since.

KungPao

Ann Landers wrote: »

Wow, he looks like such a ride in the picture of him accompanying the article. I never looked at him as hot before!

He was a very good looking bloke. He just wasn't arsed with his appearance so didn't really wash his hair/shave etc, and wore terrible clothes - he just couldn't have cared less.

The director of the SLTS video said that after a take, Kurt would look back at the recording and was only concerned about the shot and what was going on and if it looked good, he didn't care about what he looked like, no vanity at all.

NegativeCreep

KungPao wrote: »

He was a very good looking bloke. He just wasn't arsed with his appearance so didn't really wash his hair/shave etc, and wore terrible clothes - he just couldn't have cared less.

The director of the SLTS video said that after a take, Kurt would look back at the recording and was only concerned about the shot and what was going on and if it looked good, he didn't care about what he looked like, no vanity at all.

I think he cared a bit. I read somewhere that he'd wear two pairs of jeans all the time and baggy clothes so people wouldn't notice how skinny he was. Think I read it in his biography.

Pumpkinseeds

I was a 21 year old fan, can't believe it was 20 years ago, where have the last 20 years gone

BillyMitchel

I couldn't get past your first sentence. That was a proper low blow. Holy ****.

Fock you OP!

I feel like your man from that meme that staring into space at a disco.

Tasden

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I think he cared a bit. I read somewhere that he'd wear two pairs of jeans all the time and baggy clothes so people wouldn't notice how skinny he was. Think I read it in his biography.

Yeah I vaguely remember reading that too, and that he ate apples instead of brushing his teeth.

ceadaoin.

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I think he cared a bit. I read somewhere that he'd wear two pairs of jeans all the time and baggy clothes so people wouldn't notice how skinny he was. Think I read it in his biography.

He had a major complex about his weight. He found it hard to eat because of his stomach problems and thought he was freakishly skinny. I think he considered himself fairly ugly too which he definitely wasn't.

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I was only 4 so obviously don't remember it. Found Nirvana in my teenage years, like most people. They'd never have been one of my favourite bands but I do really like some of their stuff. And I easily see why he is/was an idol for some people.

TheShockmaster wrote: »

As for Courtney Love . . . i think she saw him as a means to an end, but i also feel that they did geuinely love each other and that she helped him a lot before he died (saved his life in Italy I believe)

Yeah I'd think the same. She's definitely a pretty fúcked up person but I really don't think she was capable of having him killed. It's a shame that her reputation often overshadows the fact that she's a very talented singer/songwriter in her own right (I personally prefer Hole's music to Nirvana's).

poundapunnet

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I think he cared a bit. I read somewhere that he'd wear two pairs of jeans all the time and baggy clothes so people wouldn't notice how skinny he was. Think I read it in his biography.

He looked so tiny a lot of the time or maybe courtney love's a giant

I've always gotten the impression that he was aware of his looks but tried to play them down. If you see him in candid shots you can see how good looking he is, but whenever he's aware a media camera's on him he starts gurning or wearing a stupid hat or something.

dee_mc

This is really cool, one of only 12 original posters for the planned Nirvana gig in the RDS in 1994 is for sale https://www.facebook.com/pages/Athenry-Antiques/112394532231402 Be nice to have a spare €3400 lying around for this!

Rosy Posy

username123 wrote: »

He was dead 3 days before the news hit the media.

The autopsy said he died on the 5th but he was only found on the 8th, the news broke on the 9th, a Saturday. I was red eyed and silent for my mam's birthday dinner. What a selfish little sh!t was my teenaged self.

Vito Corleone

rockbeast wrote: »

This

and Heart-Shaped Box were their best songs IMO

It boggles my mind how Aneurysm, Even in His Youth and Sappy weren't included in any of the studio albums.

Capt'n Midnight

Dougal We were just talking about that fella, Kurt Cobain. He was from America. Imagine blowing your head off with a shotgun. God, how did he manage to survive that?
Father Ted Eh. He didn't. He died.
Dougal Oh right.

thegreatgonzo

ceadaoin. wrote: »

He had a major complex about his weight. He found it hard to eat because of his stomach problems and thought he was freakishly skinny. .

I remember reading somewhere that he started taking heroin to cope with the pain from his stomach. I suddenly thought of him in a lecture a couple of years ago about Marshall and Warren's breakthrough with Heliobacter pylori and wondered if that was his problem.

AllGunsBlazing

RE: The whole murder conspiracy thing.

Personally, I don't think she had him bumped off. But I do believe that she played a key role in his demise. Personality wise they were a corrosive mix.

He wanted to re-enact his relationship with his estranged mother by having a girlfriend/wife who would help revive his sense of abandonment and generally emasculate him. Where as Courtney wanted to be a rock star in her own right, but felt she needed to be on the arm of someone already famous to achieve that.

Mind you, if Kurt hadn't married her, he probably would have sought out another woman with similar qualities to do the same job.

stretchdoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXb4sDqs56I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYcFQxsKlQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ9z-SEzDtk

RikkFlair

"It's better to burn out than to fade away"

byte

RikkFlair wrote: »

"It's better to burn out than to fade away"

Peace, love, empathy.

DEFTLEFTHAND

RikkFlair wrote: »

"It's better to burn out than to fade away"

Neil Young dropped that line from Hey Hey My My shortly after it became publicised that Cobain had used it in his suicide note. He substitutes it in live performances for "Once you're gone you can't come back"

Tigger

MagicMarker wrote: »

Ah Kurt Cobain, proof that sometimes the best thing you can do for your career is kill yourself.

i'd spit on you if you said that in my presence : just saying

KungPao

Vito Corleone wrote: »

It boggles my mind how Aneurysm, Even in His Youth and Sappy weren't included in any of the studio albums.

Yes and yes. But Sappy always lacked that x factor for it to be proper Nirvana song for me.

The other two though, wow great songs. I am always amazed at the melodies he put to riffs, and Even in His Youth is a good example...simple riff, great vocal tune. I also love Curmudgeon.

thebaz

massive loss to the music industry - no one wailed like Kurt - with some of the rubbish that passes for music , how we miss Kurt today - trust Neil Young to get it so right
"Once you're gone you can't come back"

we only get one life

R.I.P.

Femme_Fatale

I've always been a big fan of Hole's music (prefer them to Nirvana tbh) but Courtney seems like a cnut. Watching The People versus Larry Flynt now and she's very good in it but she would be, seeing as she's playing herself.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I've always been a big fan of Hole's music (prefer them to Nirvana tbh) but Courtney seems like a cnut. Watching The People versus Larry Flynt now and she's very good in it but she would be, seeing as she's playing herself.

Yeah Hole, She was quite talented in her own right. She's painted out as being this mad bitch who dominated Cobain and used him for her own advancement, not to mention the wacked out theories of her being involved in his death. Also the bullsh!t over him writing her songs for instance, he gifted her one song 'Old Age' for her birthday after they'd married. She tweaked the lyrics and recorded it for Hole. The only Nirvana version of that song was a tape recording that eventually appeared on the box set.

I think the Charles R Cross Biography of Cobain is the most accurate account of his life considering the sources for research he had, parents, friends, ex band members, music execs etc.

Femme_Fatale

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

She was quite talented in her own right.

Great songwriter, very good actress, but a difficult diva it would appear.

RDM_83 again

Tigger wrote: »

i'd spit on you if you said that in my presence : just saying

It doesn't necessarily stop it being true though even if its a nasty thing to say, I like Nirvana but even as a teenager I never really got the obsession and emotional connection thing some people (particularly girls it) seemed to get about Cobain (and I was a teenager after he died)

Look at Alice in Chains if Layne Staley had died had 10 years earlier we would probably see a similar buzz about Facelift and Dirt but I suppose he didn't have the look either.