Liam O wrote: » But isn't the yardstick Victor Valdes according to you?
Andersonisgod wrote: » I do believe him to be one of the finest goalkeepers on the planet, he's proved it season after season and his trophy haul and the backing of his teammates and those at the club back that up. However Victor Valdes aside, there's more goalkeepers of rate ahead of De Gea, before this dissolves, again, into a debate about Barcelona's greatest ever goalkeeper.
Hammer Archer wrote: » Is Fellaini specifically not allowed to be booked? 4 or 5 fouls plus a blatant dive and still no card.
Red Crow wrote: » It's Fergie, he owns the referees.
Johner wrote: » Mata has been very quiet this half.
Johner wrote: » That was awful by Kagawa, nice break though.
CSF wrote: » So much bull**** here. Valdes is a good to average goalkeeper, not an integral part of any of the trophies he has won. Not up there with the greatest of shotstoppers and quite suspect in plenty of aspects of his game too. Take the Barca jersey off him and you wouldn't be singing his praises half as much.
Andersonisgod wrote: » I won't follow this up with a comment but that's incorrect. Take the Barcelona jersey off him and I will praise him even more as I couldn'tbbe accused of bias then. However it isn't possible to take Barcelona out of his blood, he was schooled at Barcelona, raised to dream of playing for Barcelona, he grew up and became the goalkeeper and man he is today because of Barcelona. Take away Barcelona and you have a different goalkeeper and a different man. I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment of his goalkeeping skills and his contributions to the clubs great success, I suspect those at the club would agree with me rather than you, there's a reason he has been the number one at Barcelona for so long and a reason why it took so long to find his replacement. Big gloves to fill. I will not commentvany further on this thread about Valdes, I'd also like to note that I did not bring up the subject of Valdes.