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Modern Irish slavery

Montgolfier

Am I right in saying the whole country is getting screwed on taxes.
I probably take home 40% of what I earn, if I spend that 40% take away another 23% so that leaves 17%.
Gov and people in the top jobs won't take a pay cut because they have huge mortgages and it wouldn't do If they couldn't pay the banks.
It amounts to Irish slavery earning just enough to survive but not enough to change your situation.

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Frynge

Montgolfier wrote: »

Am I right in saying the whole country is getting screwed on taxes.
I probably take home 40% of what I earn, if I spend that 40% take away another 23% so that leaves 17%.
Gov and people in the top jobs won't take a pay cut because they have huge mortgages and it wouldn't do If they couldn't pay the banks.
It amounts to Irish slavery earning just enough to survive but not enough to change your situation.

Can I ask how exactly you only get 40% of you gross. It seems obscenely low.

JDOC1996

I agree with you. It's absolutely disgusting. But as per usual us Irish are just taking it up the hole. Our leaders are weak, impotent d*cks. It's really time us Irish people stand up for ourselves.

bikerjohn

This is my Slavery!!

So an owner walks into his factory on a Monday morning and rounds up his staff and says ok I need all you guys to work for 20% less but I want increased output .I want a large %%% of you to work in a new factory 75 miles away but you can make your own way there everyday and I will not compensate you I want all of you guys to be supervisors in 5 years time but we only got (10 positions and there is 80 of you) if not your fired.I want jimmy who started yesterday to work alongside tony for 10% less oh and finally I want you all to SMILE while this is happening ...REACTION FROM STAFF well you can all guess that one ...Except if your a Member of the Irish Defence Forces then you just take it and take it once they have drained you financially they will go after you mentally because you got no more to give .Defence Force Members have suffered most in the Public Service (FACT).DDFPAC2014

Montgolfier

Frynge wrote: »

Can I ask how exactly you only get 40% of you gross. It seems obscenely low.

Just utterly frustrated I work hard have a young family wife's not working so she minds the kids, we don't eat/drink out and we have feck all at the end of the month.
Granted I didn't do my sums, I am on the higher rate of tax, and then USC, Prsi, pension (you might say the last one is a choice but is it really in this day and age.)
On top there's Road Tax, NCT, TV licence, Property Tax, and my point is it doesn't end there, as everything you pay for has VAT 23% on it.
The gap between the rich and poor is one of the highest in Europe according to newstalk the other day.

relax carry on

Montgolfier wrote: »

Just utterly frustrated I work hard have a young family wife's not working so she minds the kids, we don't eat/drink out and we have feck all at the end of the month.
Granted I didn't do my sums, I am on the higher rate of tax, and then USC, Prsi, pension (you might say the last one is a choice but is it really in this day and age.)
On top there's Road Tax, NCT, TV licence, Property Tax, and my point is it doesn't end there, as everything you pay for has VAT 23% on it.
The gap between the rich and poor is one of the highest in Europe according to newstalk the other day.

You may want to revise that statement about Vat. Everything does not have 23% vat on it. There's a standard rate of 23% on some things, a reduced rate of 13.5% on others, a second reduced rate of 9% and then a zero rate.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/rates/index.jsp

Mr. Incognito

Not a taxation matter

Ranting and raving that way

[Deleted User]

Montgolfier wrote: »

I probably take home 40% of what I earn, if I spend that 40% take away another 23% so that leaves 17%. .

Eh... no

Joaquin223

Montgolfier wrote: »

I probably take home 40% of what I earn, if I spend that 40% take away another 23% so that leaves 17%.

What?

martinedwards

Modern slavery is where teenaged girls are lured by the promise of a job in the west and then shot up on drugs to keep them docile and used as prostitutes.

I think you'll find that you're paying more tax than you'd like to.

there is a slight difference, and there are a bunch of young women who would love to offer you a swop......

Terry Gilliam Beard

Montgolfier wrote: »

Just utterly frustrated I work hard have a young family wife's not working so she minds the kids, we don't eat/drink out and we have feck all at the end of the month.

Do you get children's allowance at all? Tax breaks for having children? 'Free' school (paid for by whom?)? Do you use roads, or healthcare at all?

Frank Lee Midere

bluewolf wrote: »

Eh... no

No indeed. The 40% is probably too high anyway. But even if all items cost 23% vat that can't be taken from the 60% "remainder".

VAT is added to the retail price. If an item would have cost 100 it costs 123 after tax. Of the sticker price then 18.6% is VAT.

If you spend all your income on VAT products you pay another 18.6% tax on the rest of your income. Nobody does.

The rest of the stuff - extra costs for health, property, eventually water does add up though.

Frank Lee Midere

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

Do you get children's allowance at all? Tax breaks for having children? 'Free' school (paid for by whom?)? Do you use roads, or healthcare at all?

Surely the guy on the top end of the tax breaks is paying for all this, and more.

veryangryman

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

Do you get children's allowance at all? Tax breaks for having children? 'Free' school (paid for by whom?)? Do you use roads, or healthcare at all?

So that means that the income is not taxed and he act spend it on what he chooses?

dxhound2005

Montgolfier wrote: »

Just utterly frustrated I work hard have a young family wife's not working so she minds the kids, we don't eat/drink out and we have feck all at the end of the month.
Granted I didn't do my sums, I am on the higher rate of tax, and then USC, Prsi, pension (you might say the last one is a choice but is it really in this day and age.)
On top there's Road Tax, NCT, TV licence, Property Tax, and my point is it doesn't end there, as everything you pay for has VAT 23% on it.
The gap between the rich and poor is one of the highest in Europe according to newstalk the other day.

Newstalk is owned by Denis O'Brien. Was it him that said it?

OttoPilot

I think I'm right in saying tax rates were much higher back in the 70s and 80s. My Granddad was an engineer and I remember him always complaining that the top rate of tax was above 50%! So I'd say current marginal tax rates aren't too bad in comparison seeing as they were at their lowest around 05/06.

The point of taxes is to pool people's money together for the greater social good. If there was no taxes you would have to pay extortionate hospital fees for privately built and run hospitals, education would be more expensive, who would pay for your roads too? You would, just at a higher price than the government does.

Yeah maybe taxes are too high atm because of bailing out banks, but that is what the electorate voted for when they voted for FG, FF, Greens and Labour

Artful_Badger

Montgolfier wrote: »

earning just enough to survive but not enough to change your situation.

Welcome to human existence. This is the life of the vast majority of people who have lived or ever will live on this planet.

Terry Gilliam Beard

veryangryman wrote: »

So that means that the income is not taxed and he act spend it on what he chooses?

No - but he's claiming he's a slave. You agree?

Banjo String

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

Do you get children's allowance at all? Tax breaks for having children? 'Free' school (paid for by whom?)? Do you use roads, or healthcare at all?

Education isn't free.
The roads are tolled, motor tax is among the highest in Europe.
A recent visit to my gp, then referred me to a and easy, followed by a prescription ended up costing me the guts of €200.

How do you reckon they're all free

Terry Gilliam Beard

Banjo String wrote: »

Education isn't free.
The roads are tolled, motor tax is among the highest in Europe.
A recent visit to my gp, then referred me to a and easy, followed by a prescription ended up costing me the guts of €200.

How do you reckon they're all free

None of them are free - they are paid for with our taxes.

Do people still not realise this?

Banjo String

Terry Gilliam Beard wrote: »

None of them are free - they are paid for with our taxes.

Do people still not realise this?

I'm sorry, I thought you were implying that they were free. I may have read your post wrong.

No Pants

OttoPilot wrote: »

I think I'm right in saying tax rates were much higher back in the 70s and 80s. My Granddad was an engineer and I remember him always complaining that the top rate of tax was above 50%! So I'd say current marginal tax rates aren't too bad in comparison seeing as they were at their lowest around 05/06.

I think the top rate of tax in the 80s was 65%.

[Deleted User]

I'm guessing maths was never your strong suit

The Backwards Man

Count yourself lucky OP.

I'm self employed and have to spend twice as much as I earn every year in order to break even.

No Pants

So other than the OP being wrong about absolutely everything, what have we learned from this thread so far?

Zillah

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm self employed and have to spend twice as much as I earn every year in order to break even.

Did I fall into fookin Maths Wonderland with this thread?

star_man

thought this was going to be about travellers luring homeless folk into bondage

Terry Gilliam Beard

star_man wrote: »

thought this was going to be about travellers luring homeless folk into bondage

Nah, it's about a guy paying taxes in a democracy to support public services and infrastructure.

shruikan2553

No Pants wrote: »

So other than the OP being wrong about absolutely everything, what have we learned from this thread so far?

That maths education is poor in this country.

diomed

The OP should take his routine ---> Stand-Up Comedy and Improv

taytothief

I love it, a guy complains about obscene levels of tax in this country, and everyone attacks him. Boards.ie