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Levels of seniority in Medicine

sopretty

Hi

I've tried to find a Medicine forum with no success.

I'm curious to know what the various stages or job titles of seniority are for doctors?

I know they range from interns to surgeons, with a registrar and an SHO being somewhere in between, but I'm just wondering what the whole hierarchy is.

Also, does anyone know what it means to be getting a 'fellowship'?

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sopretty

WikiHow wrote: »

You know him and dont know yet you wont give us vital information and expect us to know?

I thought it was a simple question! Like, you have gobsheen, supervisory gobsheen, managerial gobsheen, Head Gobsheen of the gobsheen department, then the King of the Gobsheens.

It appears it's not so simple. Or perhaps, nobody has a clue.

Sir Arthur Daley

sopretty wrote: »

It appears it's not so simple. Or perhaps, nobody has a clue.

I have answered your question 2 times already.

sopretty

WikiHow wrote: »

I have answered your question 2 times already.

Indeed and you haven't! In fact, in your post prior to this you declared that I was expecting you to know something without giving you sufficient information!

ballsymchugh

the fellowship is an exam.

you do your intern year, SHO years, registrar years and senior registrar years in whatever field you want to pursue. if you want to become a consultant you will need to become a member of the royal college of surgeons or the royal college of physicians.
the fellowship exam is another rung on that ladder.

mrcs - member of the royal college of surgeons
frcs - fellow of the rcs

you can become a consultant without the fellowship but you've a better chance if you have it, especially if it's a position that a lot of people are going for.

if you don't know if you were a surgery case or a medicine case, then go by the consultants title. all physicians are called Dr., and all surgeons are called Mr.

Sir Arthur Daley

sopretty wrote: »

Indeed and you haven't! In fact, in your post prior to this you declared that I was expecting you to know something without giving you sufficient information!

We dont know this person you are on about, this is getting confusing.

sopretty

ballsymchugh wrote: »

the fellowship is an exam.

you do your intern year, SHO years, registrar years and senior registrar years in whatever field you want to pursue. if you want to become a consultant you will need to become a member of the royal college of surgeons or the royal college of physicians.
the fellowship exam is another rung on that ladder.

mrcs - member of the royal college of surgeons
frcs - fellow of the rcs

you can become a consultant without the fellowship but you've a better chance if you have it, especially if it's a position that a lot of people are going for.

if you don't know if you were a surgery case or a medicine case, then go by the consultants title. all physicians are called Dr., and all surgeons are called Mr.

Finally!
A concise answer. Thank you!!!!

I wasn't the one who was concerned as to whether I was medical or surgical - it was the doctors who were arguing - the surgical team won and got me as the prize lol...

sopretty

Btw - in case I have confused some of you, my query in relation to fellowship has nothing to do with the surgical and medical team arguing. I just used that to display that I was quite aware of the difference between the two faculties of medicine.

Sir Arthur Daley

sopretty wrote: »

- it was the doctors who were arguing - the surgical team won and got me as the prize lol...

Are you sure they are qualified doctors that they dont know this information?
lol

sopretty

WikiHow wrote: »

Are you sure they are qualified doctors that they dont know this information?
lol

Lol, All I know is that the surgical guy came in to ask me the same questions for the 10th time over, having being previously been under the medical team, and I asked him what about the medical teams' suggestions and he started ranting that you cannot diagnose a patient on blood tests alone blah blah.... Then I was transferred from medical to surgical care. I preferred the medical guys!

Sir Arthur Daley

sopretty wrote: »

Lol, All I know is that the surgical guy came in to ask me the same questions for the 10th time over

Did he have to ask it 10 times as you were waiting for a professional reply on boards? lol

sopretty

Eh no. I was in A&E for 4 long fooopin days, before any treatment. I was asked the same questions by every doctor who came to see me during my time! Apparently, they can't read a foopin file!!!!!

Sir Arthur Daley

sopretty wrote: »

Eh no. I was in A&E for 4 long fooopin days, before any treatment. I

What was your injury? 4 days is unacceptable without any treatment.

JonEBGud

It took 2 pages to get to this.
Poor James Reilly.

sopretty

WikiHow wrote: »

What was your injury? 4 days is unacceptable without any treatment.

It wasn't an injury. I was on a trolley in a corridor for about 48 hours but being treated medically - I would be periodically wheeled into cubicles to be examined by doctors. I was then on a trolley in an overflow area of the A&E (the old day-ward) for another 12 hours I think. They had to admit me then before they could perform the surgical procedure, so I was admitted to a ward the night before the procedure.

sopretty

Apologies, I see where your question is coming from. I suppose by treatment, I suppose I meant 'resolution'! I was being treated and examined all the time I was on the trolley with various medications intravenously, and various examinations and scans.

Sir Arthur Daley

Did you feel you were being treated by amateurs?

sopretty

Not at all. There was a lot of duplication of information finding though! The actual dude performing the surgery came down to me beforehand and ate the head off me as I didn't tell them I had had a PE though. I had told 10 dudes before hand!!! God lord, could he not just read the f'n file? Ah no, the doctors are sound really, though the surgical team could do with acquiring some people skills! The whole system is nothing to do with doctors though!

JonEBGud

Was this treatment in a Midland Hospital?

sopretty

JonEBGud wrote: »

Was this treatment in a Midland Hospital?

It was indeed.

Sir Arthur Daley

sopretty wrote: »

Not at all. There was a lot of duplication of information finding though! The actual dude performing the surgery came down to me beforehand and ate the head off me as I didn't tell them I had had a PE though. I had told 10 dudes before hand!!! God lord, could he not just read the f'n file? Ah no, the doctors are sound really, though the surgical team could do with acquiring some people skills! The whole system is nothing to do with doctors though!

You are talking about professional people here, if you feel they are sub standard you should have gone to the vet.

sopretty

WikiHow wrote: »

You are talking about professional people here, if you feel they are sub standard you should have gone to the vet.

In fairness, us lay people, when in pain, are kinda at the mercy of the system.

gctest50

WikiHow wrote: »

You are talking about professional people here, if you feel they are sub standard you should have gone to the vet.

Have you something against vets now with that post ?

JonEBGud

sopretty wrote: »

It was indeed.

Name and Shame. Please.
These so called hospitals
are no more than First Aid Centres.
If even that.

sopretty

It was Mullingar hospital.

ballsymchugh

4 days in A&E would've made the news. the INMO love stories like that.

policarp

sopretty wrote: »

It was Mullingar hospital.

Did you have no other option?
I know that A&E is more or less county bound.
But if you were able, why not go to Dublin,Cork or Galway?

sopretty

ballsymchugh wrote: »

4 days in A&E would've made the news. the INMO love stories like that.

I wouldn't have named the hospital if I wasn't quite happy that I would not be capable of being accused of making defamatory accusations, so you can rest assured, that, if Mullingar hospital wishes to question this, they'll have a hard job trying to do so! A nurse I complained to, told me to fill out a complaint form (which I didn't, like an idiot, as I wasn't in the best of form understandably!) and told me that if we as patients don't complain, they can do nothing. In the heel of the hunt, I was that delighted to get out of the cursed place, I wanted nothing to do with even thinking about it.
I'm detached from the experience now, but at the time, I told my friend, that I was going to go mad (literally like) if they didn't put me somewhere that I could sleep. She persuaded me to stay.
Actually, just remembering this horror of an experience (which was last year), the feckers would have me on starvation for the day, just in case I'd have to be sent for this, that or the other exam(which I never was until the fourth day). I nearly went mental with the hunger, never mind everything else!

WoollyRedHat

sopretty wrote: »

Aye - he's going to pay for my flight to Florida once he gets his fellowship

He'll have a ring too I suppose.

sopretty

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

He'll have a ring too I suppose.

Aye, the whole works.

policarp

sopretty wrote: »

I wouldn't have named the hospital if I wasn't quite happy that I would not be capable of being accused of making defamatory accusations, so you can rest assured, that, if Mullingar hospital wishes to question this, they'll have a hard job trying to do so! A nurse I complained to, told me to fill out a complaint form (which I didn't, like an idiot, as I wasn't in the best of form understandably!) and told me that if we as patients don't complain, they can do nothing. In the heel of the hunt, I was that delighted to get out of the cursed place, I wanted nothing to do with even thinking about it.
I'm detached from the experience now, but at the time, I told my friend, that I was going to go mad (literally like) if they didn't put me somewhere that I could sleep. She persuaded me to stay.
Actually, just remembering this horror of an experience (which was last year), the feckers would have me on starvation for the day, just in case I'd have to be sent for this, that or the other exam(which I never was until the fourth day). I nearly went mental with the hunger, never mind everything else!

Did you have Private Health Insurance?