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Friend was mugged in Dublin City Centre

Lollipop95

Hey guys, ok so a girl I know was walking in broad day light down Dublin City Centre on Wednesday with her brand new phone and it got snatched out of her hand by some scumbag who then bolted! She's pretty shaken up understandably

I'm just glad she herself is ok! I've been redwing other threads on this and it seems to be rampant and in Dublin in particular(although obviously a mugging can occur anywhere) she said Dublin is a big place and she took it for granted

I really think there needs to be a crackdown on this... These thiefs are obviously snatching these phones to sell them onto shops and make a bit of cash.., surely these shops should assess the phones more and do sonething about it - there must be a way of them knowing if a phone has been snatched?

the mugging I was told about made me realise that you really need to be streetwise and have you wits about you at all time! It's just a sad state of affairs when you can't walk down a street without being on your guard and being cautious of your phone and handbag. Like the amount of people I see walking along the street while talking into their phones.., it's just inviting some scumbag to steal it

what's everyone else's opinion on this? Do you think like me there should be way more done in order to cut down on these muggings?

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Boombastic

Cash for gold places should shut down aswell, it's too easy for these scummers. Sorry to hear happened to your friend.

stefan idiot jones

Saudi Arabian style deterrents.

Chop their hands off in public.

Make the other scumbags think again.

Vermin.

dreamers75

My friend was mugged and he was done for GBH

cant win.......

Boombastic

dreamers75 wrote: »

My friend was mugged and he was done for GBH

cant win.......

That's fcuked up, but doesn't surprise me for some reason

greasepalm

bit late know but dont these phones have a gps that can be traced or phone locked when stolen?
it is sad but flashing an expensive phone anywhere is asking for trouble,it is the state of things with money been very tight or non existent for many.

sawdoubters

you can put an app that finds the phone,apple and others can lock the phone so it cant be used

bedrock#1

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Saudi Arabian style deterrents.

Chop their hands off in public.

Make the other scumbags think again.

Vermin.

so in theory, crime should be zero in saudi arabia?

deecom

Sorry as i am for your friend, but it is a fact of life. Now days, you must be careful, be it Dublin, London; New York. The fact is people are not streetwise. I have been all over the world, travelled well. That said you never let your guard down. Maybe an expensive lesson. Watch your back no matter where, someone will always want what you have.

As Crimewatch would say, "Stay safe, don't have nightmares"

Lenin Skynard

Bit of street smarts go a long way. You can't walk around any major city in the world waving a €600 phone around, Dublin is tame in comparison to most places.

Temptamperu

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Saudi Arabian style deterrents.

Chop their hands off in public.

Make the other scumbags think again.

Vermin.

And still there is crime in the kingdom. It dont work.

hfallada

OP most Dubliners know you never use your phone on the street. Wait until your are on a bus or indoors.

The robberies in Dublin are not from scumbags. But heroin addicts who are just feeding their addiction. We have had Governments who have ignored the massive heroin problem in Dublin since the 1980s. There is hardly any detox beds in Dublin and most heroin users are in and out of prison. There is no opportunity for them to have a normal life. I havent heard any public official acknowledge any social issues found in Dublin, which you have to be seriously blind not to see

There is the different between someone is scumbag and someone who is so addicted to heroin. That they will do literally anything for it

TheShizz

I was mugged in broad daylight when I was 15. Some traveller stopped me in town and pretended to know me, saying "James, from Colaiste...?" then mumbled the second part of the school name - or else I just couldn't understand him because he was a pikey.

Anywho, he threatened to break my jaw if I didn't accompany him over to a shutter right beside that cigar shop at the end of the Grafton Street. He then proceeded to take my phone, a flip-up Sharp camera phone, which was my baby, and about €20 quid in cash.

Anyways, I'm 6'5 and about 19 stone these days so I don't get much hassle these days. I'm the one who should be out mugging people for a living.

Vito Corleone

Keep phone in pocket.

Boombastic

hfallada wrote: »

OP most Dubliners know you never use your phone on the street. Wait until your are on a bus or indoors.

The robberies in Dublin are not from scumbags. But heroin addicts who are just feeding their addiction. We have had Governments who have ignored the massive heroin problem in Dublin since the 1980s. There is hardly any detox beds in Dublin and most heroin users are in and out of prison. There is no opportunity for them to have a normal life. I havent heard any public official acknowledge any social issues found in Dublin, which you have to be seriously blind not to see

There is the different between someone is scumbag and someone who is so addicted to heroin. That they will do literally anything for it

Literally do anything except work for it

Kaizersoze81

hfallada wrote: »

OP most Dubliners know you never use your phone on the street. Wait until your are on a bus or indoors.

The robberies in Dublin are not from scumbags. But heroin addicts who are just feeding their addiction. We have had Governments who have ignored the massive heroin problem in Dublin since the 1980s. There is hardly any detox beds in Dublin and most heroin users are in and out of prison. There is no opportunity for them to have a normal life. I havent heard any public official acknowledge any social issues found in Dublin, which you have to be seriously blind not to see

There is the different between someone is scumbag and someone who is so addicted to heroin. That they will do literally anything for it

Stop making excuses for them. Anyone who snatches a phone from someone's hand is a scumbag. The fact they're addicted to heroin makes no difference.

J_E

hfallada wrote: »

OP most Dubliners know you never use your phone on the street. Wait until your are on a bus or indoors.

The robberies in Dublin are not from scumbags. But heroin addicts who are just feeding their addiction. We have had Governments who have ignored the massive heroin problem in Dublin since the 1980s. There is hardly any detox beds in Dublin and most heroin users are in and out of prison. There is no opportunity for them to have a normal life. I havent heard any public official acknowledge any social issues found in Dublin, which you have to be seriously blind not to see

There is the different between someone is scumbag and someone who is so addicted to heroin. That they will do literally anything for it

Yeah, I think it's fairly shocking, the lack of dealing with the situation properly. You're never going to get anywhere by shoving methadone, Garda cells overnight, etc. at people who are hooked. A few of them are past the point of saving but some are genuinely just hooked and don't have the support net to be able to push and get off stuff like that. Even today saw someone obviously wasted waddling up the street. It's not nice to see and you'd expect it would be a smart move to try to prevent and get rid of it given the bad image the city gets. Gets worse when you have the likes of Victory Outreach trying to cash in on vulnerable people.

This post might seem like it's just making excuses and there are some awful scumbags in the city, but I've definitely also seen the above and it's pretty tragic.

rolliepoley

You wont stop the jackdaw from stealing shiny objects.

zetalambda

Not sure I'd call this a mugging as your friend wasn't threatened with a weapon or attacked. More like opportunistic Petty Theft.

Riddle101

Rule No.1 always keep your phone in your pocket until in a safe place. Sorry to here about your friend though.

deecom

Boombastic wrote: »

Literally do anything except work for it

Well said i did see a two kids (12/13YO) smash a window on a very nice BMW, just down from Grand Canal. I was the opposite side so could do nothing, bar call the Guards. All i can think is idiots, have no idea what money is, nor how much work is required to make it. I guess there stupid parents said, "Sure its fine the insurance will pay" There is a word i would like to use, but all i shall say is it starts with C and ends with T's

johnnyskeleton

dreamers75 wrote: »

My friend was mugged and he was done for GBH

cant win.......

Was this pre-1997 or in another country? Because GBH is not an offence in Ireland and hasn't been for some time. Plus, it is doubtful if he was defending himself he would be prosecuted.

So I call bull on your sensationalist comment.

TheShizz

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

Stop making excuses for them. Anyone who snatches a phone from someone's hand is a scumbag. The fact they're addicted to heroin makes no difference.

Jeremy Kyle over here.

You'd be the only heroin addict in the history of opioid dependence to retain your morals even when you're getting sick and ****ting your pants because you haven't used for over 12 hours.

Boombastic

TheShizz wrote: »

Jeremy Kyle over here.

You'd be the only heroin addict in the history of opioid dependence to retain your morals even when you're getting sick and ****ting your pants because you haven't used for over 12 hours.

There are people who are functioning addicts, Who do their heroin and hold down a job.

ozmo

Make sure you imei block it by reporting it stolen.
Makes it more difficult to sell on if it not working - You can get the imei from the box it came in or from the pc it synced with.

California is this year pushing for new laws to force phone manufacturers to more permanently brick phones when stolen. They are resisting(it denies them a new sale i guess) We should do that in Europe also. If the phones are worthless when stolen it will cut down on theft of them.

Kaizersoze81

TheShizz wrote: »

Jeremy Kyle over here.

You'd be the only heroin addict in the history of opioid dependence to retain your morals even when you're getting sick and ****ting your pants because you haven't used for over 12 hours.

Boo -f#$king- who

And what about the people who worked hard to save up the money to buy the phone. But no, let's have sympathy for the junkies who are "forced" to mug people. Bleeding hearts like yourself are what is wrong with this country.
Anyone who mugs someone for their phone is a scumbag. End of story. If they're addicted to heroin let them get treatment in a methadone clinic for that.Stop apologising for scumbags.

Zillah

hfallada wrote: »

OP most Dubliners know you never use your phone on the street.

Yeah, this isn't true at all.

J_E

ozmo wrote: »

Make sure you imei block it by reporting it stolen.
Makes it more difficult to sell on if it not working - You can get the imei from the box it came in or from the pc it synced with.

California is this year pushing for new laws to force phone manufacturers to more permanently brick phones when stolen. They are resisting(it denies them a new sale i guess) We should do that in Europe also. If the phones are worthless when stolen it will cut down on theft of them.

Issue with that though is if it's found (and shops will checkmend a phone and report it if it is marked stolen which does reunite it with users sometimes) it can't be used.

stefan idiot jones

bedrock#1 wrote: »

so in theory, crime should be zero in saudi arabia?

Two wrongs don't make a right, but they make you feel a whole lot better.

If it makes one vermin stop and think otherwise then it justifies it.

The death penalty that was reintroduced in some US states hasn't cut violent crime, but at least those who are in death row then the injection cannot re offend like so many of this pond life excuse for humans.

stefan idiot jones

hfallada wrote: »

There is the different between someone is scumbag and someone who is so addicted to heroin. That they will do literally anything for it

If they want heroin, give them as much as they want, and more. Give them a wheelbarrow full of it everyday.

It'll stop this sort of crime.

The repercussions? Don't care.

Life choices.

TheShizz

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

Boo -f#$king- who

And what about the people who worked hard to save up the money to buy the phone. But no, let's have sympathy for the junkies who are "forced" to mug people. Bleeding hearts like yourself are what is wrong with this country.
Anyone who mugs someone for their phone is a scumbag. End of story. If they're addicted to heroin let them get treatment in a methadone clinic for that.Stop apologising for scumbags.

Personally I'd rather be a "bleeding heart" than an ignorant arsehole who doesn't understand addiction nor the effect it has on people, but that's just me.