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'Americans think the Irish are crazy and drink a lot'

Biggins

'Americans think the Irish are crazy and drink a lot'

Irish J1 students had difficulty getting jobs in California this summer because of their party-animal reputation. ‘A few Irish visitors are ruining it for everyone,’ they tell Stephen Mangan and Hugh McDowell

FOR SOME IRISH students, a summer of partying, surfing, and occasionally working, in California is considered a rite of passage. With all of the liberties and none of the responsibilities associated with adulthood, fun is guaranteed – but at what price to Californians?

In recent years, the reputation of young Irish people has been smeared by trouble and vandalism has been tarnished in popular American west-coast resorts such as Santa Barbara and San Diego. US beach resorts and cities experience a summer influx of Irish students year after year, but the reputation of some areas has been damaged because of behaviour linked to socialising and partying.

In 2005 the resort of Isla Vista in Santa Barbara, California, was the scene of an investigation by police after a group of Irish students caused $15,000 (€11,400) worth of damage in three apartments at an accommodation complex.
The problems are ongoing. This summer alone, Irish students are believed have caused $20,000 (€15,100) worth of damage, says William Sanchez, property manager of the Breakpointe apartment complex in Isla Vista. Sanchez describes housing Irish students as “the worst experience ever.

Last Tuesday night there was a couple of grand worth of damage done. Some Irish students were throwing microwaves into a swimming pool. It’s been going on for years.

Article continues: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0807/1224276359790.html?via=mr

So the question I put before the jury of After Hours is: Are a small number of Irish students ruining all the rest of Irish youths chances and reputation abroad - or are we as a nation just now just exporting our version of the "British Lager Lout" ?

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MadsL

sawdoubters wrote: »

Australians hate the irish

americans love the irish

Don't start this up again ffs.

smurgen

ringadingding wrote: »

Any American i've met can't drink soup !

Any Americans I've met were cheap c@n&$ when it came to drink and I know ALOT of Americans ,I've gone out with American girls and some of my family members are American citizens.it's like the whole lot of them were attacked by a bar man at one stage.they're more than happy for you to buy them drink but when it's there round they'll duck out for a slash. I cannot stand stinginess.
Also I've noticed than new American students hanging around are pure dry balls,no craic. Always see em in town.they'll be about six of em sitting at one table,one pint and six straws ,all wearing north face jackets and not talking.they're almost like the stereotype of what people think the Germans are like!

MadsL

smurgen wrote: »

Any Americans I've met were cheap c@n&$ when it came to drink and I know ALOT of Americans ,I've gone out with American girls and some of my family members are American citizens.it's like the whole lot of them were attacked by a bar man at one stage.they're more than happy for you to buy them drink but when it's there round they'll duck out for a slash. I cannot stand stinginess.
Also I've noticed than new American students hanging around are pure dry balls,no craic. Always see em in town.they'll be about six of em sitting at one table,one pint and six straws ,all wearing north face jackets and not talking.they're almost like the stereotype of what people think the Germans are like!

I think you need to change who you drink with...

Pixie69

MadsL wrote: »

I think you need to change who you drink with...

Are you a yank?

Amirani

Pixie69 wrote: »

Are you a yank?

Would it make a difference? I'd be of the same opinion.

smurgen

MadsL wrote: »

I think you need to change who you drink with...

Be rude to stand up cousins when they're visiting.also the irish did act like animals in isla Vista,I stayed in breakpoint in 2008 and the place was like mount joy.I was quiet the little deviant myself over there.Slept on a two cushions I found in a rubbish bin out the back of the place for 2 months,good times!

WoollyRedHat

Pixie69 wrote: »

Are you a yank?

Are you really a pixie?

Frosty McSnowballs

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Are you really a pixie?

Are you really a hat?

WoollyRedHat

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Are you really a hat?

I've always believed that to be the case, so yes.

orangesoda

sawdoubters wrote: »

Australians hate the irish

americans love the irish

Do you blame them? especially with the kind of crowd that usually go to australia, they also hate poms as well

Frosty McSnowballs

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I've always believed that to be the case, so yes.

Hmmm, carry on.

SimonLynch

I think there's a huge amount of generalisation with the Americans, been to Detroit, Boston, Toledo, rural Ohio, New York and Phoenix, vast differences.

To be honest IMO, on the drinking front, they drink as much as us but we're only catching up on the drinking at home bit.

WoollyRedHat

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Hmmm, carry on.

I made the observation when I was young, I've always felt like a hat and for a while I worked in a hats shop, and it was here that I felt truly at home, surrounded by all this magnificent hats of all sorts and sizes,and it was then that I deduced, I must be a hat too. Not a lot of people seem to understand, but they wouldn't would they.

SimonLynch

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I made the observation when I was young, I've always felt like a hat and for a while I worked in a hats shop, and it was here that I felt truly at home, surrounded by all this magnificent hats of all sorts and sizes,and it was then that I deduced, I must be a hat too. Not a lot of people seem to understand, but they wouldn't would they.

Are you a fedora, trilby, topper, beret or what? Tell us, there's no judgement here.

Bollox, you're only a woolly red hat, hippy.

bockeys jollocks

smurgen wrote: »

Any Americans I've met were cheap c@n&$ when it came to drink and I know ALOT of Americans ,I've gone out with American girls and some of my family members are American citizens.it's like the whole lot of them were attacked by a bar man at one stage.they're more than happy for you to buy them drink but when it's there round they'll duck out for a slash. I cannot stand stinginess.
Also I've noticed than new American students hanging around are pure dry balls,no craic. Always see em in town.they'll be about six of em sitting at one table,one pint and six straws ,all wearing north face jackets and not talking.they're almost like the stereotype of what people think the Germans are like!

Depends where you are in the states, I found Americans in NYC drink just as much as Irish people generally, particularly the Wall Street crowd that filled the bars around time square at 5pm. Pints and chasers all the way.

WoollyRedHat

SimonLynch wrote: »

Are you a fedora, trilby, topper, beret or what? Tell us, there's no judgement here.

Bollox, you're only a woolly red hat, hippy.

I know, I didn't feel quite fabolous enough to be a fedora.

SimonLynch

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I know, I didn't feel quite fabolous enough to be a fedora.

You could always be a slouch fedora

rustedtrumpet

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I made the observation when I was young, I've always felt like a hat and for a while I worked in a hats shop, and it was here that I felt truly at home, surrounded by all this magnificent hats of all sorts and sizes,and it was then that I deduced, I must be a hat too. Not a lot of people seem to understand, but they wouldn't would they.

*Tips Fedora* M'lady

COYVB

Same over here in Canada to be honest. You've got the minority of lazy, irresponsible drunk kids absolutely destroying the name of Irish people with their reckless carry on in terms of being completely unreliable for turning up for work etc. Oz has been getting it for years too, and the reputation of younger Irish over there is mud

chrissb8

St._Andalou wrote: »

Bit strong, don't you think?

But see what I mean? (Mis)conceptions work both ways.

No no this is very true. Watch their news. Not one story of anything happening outside of america. Infact the only people who know about europe and what the world is truly like are those that have bothered to leave the country. Which is a small amount. The truth of the matter is I have experienced this and only in the cities do they know about different nationalities and cultures. America is an insane country in general though. I see a cop with a gun and feel scared to be around him/her. There are so many fat people which is very true. All in all the cities are the places where you'll find people of a normal variety. Which is where most tourists such as us visit! As for us Irish we are big drinkers. It's not a misconception. Just walk through Dublin on a saturday night and try walk 100 metres without an empty naggin/shoulder, puke or pint glass. You'd be hard pressed.

Sir Arthur Daley

Americans love MacDonald's.

Oranage2

I'm here in China and everyone thinks I'm a drunk.

The foreign community is made up of American Canadian British and everywhere else in the world.

The British guys drink just as much, the young Americans can't really drink so when they see me drinking 5 - 6 small bottles of beer they think it's a lot. Irish social lives revolve a lot around the pub, and we have a drink to get drunk attitude so you can see where they're coming from.

The American guys could quite happily sit in a coffee shop for 2 hours just buying the one coffee, they can also go to a bar and drink 1 or 2 drinks for the whole night.

So culturally different but in their eyes we are drunks and in our eyes Americans are cheap light weights.

ardle1

Biggins wrote: »

'Americans think the Irish are crazy and drink a lot'

Article continues: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0807/1224276359790.html?via=mr

So the question I put before the jury of After Hours is: Are a small number of Irish students ruining all the rest of Irish youths chances and reputation abroad - or are we as a nation just now just exporting our version of the "British Lager Lout" ?

They are crazy and they do drink a lot, it happens to them all, when they leave their MAMMY:rolleyes:

WilyCoyote

Americans that think of the Irish as being funny but mad are ones that never left the shores. The ones that have been to Ireland talk lovingly of it ....... the craic, friendliness and beauty. And I've met one or two that dislike Irish people. Not straight forward but in a behind-the-scenes type of way.
Two totally different cultures unless you go to Boston, NY, Philly, Chicago etc where there are lots of people of 1st/2nd generation. Weddings generally finish at 8PM. A friend rang us up tonight asking if we wanted to go to a Valentine's Day SpagMeatball thing at the local Knights Of Columbus Hall on Saturday Feb 15th .......... wife asked the time and was told 2 - 4PM. Silent vigorous shaking of my head elicited a "sorry we can't make it as grandchild minding duties are booked".

There are quite a few non-drinkers in my work place. Some for religious reasons, some for lifestyle reasons and some because they are afraid to let themselves go.

On the other hand, the ladies are not shy in letting you know how they feel. Or even openly discussing their sexual proclivities. And are more at ease in male company compared to girls in Ireland.

WilyCoyote

ardle1 wrote: »

They are crazy and they do drink a lot, it happens to them all, when they leave their MAMMY:rolleyes:

Yeah. This fellow is from outside Ahascragh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIaj7FNHnjQ

Sir Arthur Daley

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Yeah. This fellow is from outside Ahascragh

Is that Ahascragh in Galway or Cork?

WilyCoyote

WikiHow wrote: »

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Yeah. This fellow is from outside Ahascragh

Is that Ahascragh in Galway or Cork?

The one down the road from Abbeyknockmoy!

MadsL

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Let's leave this 4 years ago where it belongs.