Raider190 wrote: » Keep the chin up blue top won't be long now end of month is my prediction
When the last upskill course finishes in Sept 2013 I would guess that by end of Sept or early Oct the new powers will be granted by the Commissioners.
3fullback wrote: » You seem to be very accurate with your predictions Raider :rolleyes:http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85895497&postcount=66
thestar wrote: » Do Reserves actually care if they get powers or not anyway? If anything has to be done then I'm sure the full time Garda will do it?
thestar wrote: » What are the proposed new powers?
Raider190 wrote: » Very fishy very fishy
Santa Cruz wrote: » Don't be getting too carried away. Increased powers for Reserves is just another Government scam to undermine full time Gardaí pay scales. Reserves will be used more and more to do duties that would have normally done on overtime. We can see the way they are treating new Student Gardaí with pay reductions. It's just a carry on from what they did to the nurses and apprentices.
Canyon86 wrote: » Spot on Santa, in a nutshell
thestar wrote: » Nobody can argue that a reserve isn't taking overtime from gardai, If a reserve wasn't there then a Garda would be there and he would be getting paid, simple
thestar wrote: » I never said anything about anybody sent home, what I'm saying is that Reserves are taking away from there being more recruitment and taking away from the overtime of members. In saying that, fair play to Reserves, a man's got to do what a man's gotta do.
thestar wrote: » well if that's the case it's a waste of time in my opinion
msg11 wrote: » There also seems to be some sort of problem around the financial implications of the Reserve, maybe if some members on units that actually want to have an input into Reserve members where given an allowance when out with the Reserve I am sure it would change the financial concern.
Scouser wrote: » bull**** how can they use GRs to do more duties? its up to the GRs to turn up. I wont be doin anything more than I usually do. I have a family and career and they come first GRs are a little extra for the force - the force will always plan without the GR resource. GRs supplement , always have always will more misguided scaremongering from the illinformed
Santa Cruz wrote: » It's not a bit misguided. I have seen it at venues like Croke Park and the Aviva. Reserves coming in for the day which means that full time Gardaí who were doing this work on overtime previously are left at home instead of getting 8/10 hours overtime on their rest Sunday. They are not supplementing, they are replacing.
Santa Cruz wrote: » What good is giving Reserves Public Order powers? Are they prepared to take time off work while cases are prosecuted through the District Court and Circuit Court or will they just land the work in on top of the full time Garda?
Scouser wrote: » complete crap my good man not true in anyway shape or form iv worked croker,aviva and 02 tons of times - sometimes making my decision just before parading and never has anyone been sent home my last outing at the 02 saw all the duties given out - and reserves being spread around ala carte to pressure points. so no provision was made for reserves, so therefore all normal duties manned by fulltimers its up to each individual GR isnt it? iv been landed with work by fulltimers so its a two way street
Santa Cruz wrote: » You would say that.
Santa Cruz wrote: » It's not a bit misguided. I have seen it at venues like Croke Park and the Aviva. Reserves coming in for the day which means that full time Gardaí who were doing this work on overtime previously are left at home instead of getting 8/10 hours overtime on their rest Sunday. They are not supplementing, they are replacing. What good is giving Reserves Public Order powers? Are they prepared to take time off work while cases are prosecuted through the District Court and Circuit Court or will they just land the work in on top of the full time Garda?
