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simple way to cut welfare bill

upwardsonwards

Unemployment benefit should be payed as normal to help an unemployed person back to work.
A person on benefit should not have to jump through hoops but should be offered friendly helpful support to get back into employment.

People who are healthy and do not qualify for unemployment benefit and require unemployment assistance should be treated very differently.
These people should get a debit card that can not be used for the purchase of alcoholic drinks or tobacco products along with a list of other non essential luxury items.

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shopaholic01

Agricola wrote: »

Can't turnips be used as a substitute for potatoes to brew poitin?

TD's would really need to reflect on this anomoly before passing this otherwise ingenius legislation.

Perhaps people should only be able to buy potatoes and turnip if they present an up to date pay slip?

I'd hate to see the OP's idea fail.

shopaholic01

upwardsonwards wrote: »

You can not get drunk on turnips and while you will not be able to get gin you might be able to get a job.

Ah honey I have one.

Tombi!

upwardsonwards wrote: »

Nor are those on assistance.
If they want to smoke and drink let them do so with their OWN money.

That's called your money; once the money is given to you then it's yours when it comes to Jobseekers allowance/benefit in Ireland.

If you want to dictate what it can and cannot be spent on, then start up your own, private jobseekers and you can make sure the money is only spent on what you deem it should be spent on.

Chucken

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Ah honey I have one.

I bet you spend all your money on turnips too :mad:

downonthefarm

Invent a scheme where lazy dolians can do an honest days work and still get their scratcher,then they can complain how they are being exploited......
Make up a catchy name like jobs bridge and hunt them out of their council houses

flutered

upwardsonwards wrote: »

Nor are those on assistance.
If they want to smoke and drink let them do so with their OWN money.

but it is their own, a fraction of what they have paid in taxex both direct and indirect for years, dont worry mate your turn will come, unless you are an unsackable civil servent, but then karma is a bitch.

shopaholic01

Chucken wrote: »

I bet you spend all your money on turnips too :mad:

I'm mad for the feckers!

Fr. Ned

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

We need the non working leeching scum in this country to drink, smoke and take as many drugs as they can so they die off younger than the decent folk.

My plan is better than yours! :P

That's no way to talk about our PS workers.
Shame on you.

[Deleted User]

upwardsonwards wrote: »

Unemployment benefit should be payed as normal to help an unemployed person back to work.
A person on benefit should not have to jump through hoops but should be offered friendly helpful support to get back into employment.

People who are healthy and do not qualify for unemployment benefit and require unemployment assistance should be treated very differently.
These people should get a debit card that can not be used for the purchase of alcoholic drinks or tobacco products along with a list of other non essential luxury items.

Did it take you long to think that up! It is amazing no one ever thought of it before... completely amazing.

Fr. Ned

upwardsonwards wrote: »

You can not get drunk on turnips and while you will not be able to get gin you might be able to get a job.

Yep, as you've been told already, stay in school because you've a lot to learn......

If we want to save €2 billion PA just cut all welfare by 10%, including pensions etc.

We would still be way above 2005 levels and I don't remember anyone on welfare starving in 2005.

Chucken

upwardsonwards wrote: »

You can not get drunk on turnips

The innocence of youth

http://www.slowfoodfoundation.com/ark/details/1357/turnip-schnapps

Fr. Ned

Anyway, for his/her first post it wasn't a bad effort at trolling.
Mods, where do you dump these sh1te threads?

Me?

OP, you are a the greatest thinker of our time.

AndonHandon

sawdoubters wrote: »

fire all politicians,

We have elections for this.

sawdoubters wrote: »

and developers

Developers are self-employed, how can they be fired?

sawdoubters wrote: »

get rid of tax breaks for American companies

Racist.

sawdoubters wrote: »

charge for health care,charge for schools,

They're called taxes.

upwardsonwards

mariaalice wrote: »

Did it take you long to think that up! It is amazing no one ever thought of it before... completely amazing.

No it's not a new or particularly original idea the United States have food stamps for example.
What would be new is a government with the vision to do it.

dxhound2005

Me? wrote: »

OP, you are a the greatest thinker of our time.

Or b. Not a very good thinker.

Freddie Dodge

Its simple, - we pay them just enough that most of them won't rob and murder us to take the stuff we earned.

Op, id love to implement your plan tomorrow, but imagine what it'd do to crime rates.

Me?

I propose an annual cull.

Sir Oxman

Thanks for the original insight OP.
Well worth clicking.

dxhound2005

Me? wrote: »

I propose an annual cull.

Would there be a season like for ducks?

Me?

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Or b. Not a very good thinker.

I always get it wrong.

Chucken

Me? wrote: »

I always get it wrong.

You?

Me?

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Would there be a season like for ducks?

We could sell licenses, add some coffers to the national purse for... I know pensions.

I think we are onto something.

Chancer3001

Ya can't give them vouchers.

Think of their self esteem.

I mean c'mon man. It's their self esteem!

Me?

Chucken wrote: »

You?

Me?

[Deleted User]

upwardsonwards wrote: »

No it's not a new or particularly original idea the United States have food stamps for example.
What would be new is a government with the vision to do it.

I think you might have missed the irony in my post, I would say your suggestion has come up on after hours at least 500 times already.

aidoh

sawdoubters wrote: »

get rid of tax breaks for American companies

AndonHandon wrote: »

Racist.

Ah come on now...

AndonHandon

A novel yet entertaining way to cut the dole bill would be to make two recipients fight each other to the death for the right to survive on the dole.

shopaholic01

AndonHandon wrote: »

A novel yet entertaining way to cut the dole bill would be to make two recipients fight each other to the death for the right to survive on the dole.

We can call it 'The Turnip Games'.

AndonHandon

aidoh wrote: »

Ah come on now...

I surely did not need to give a valid retort to such a :rolleyes: comment?