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Growing drug use in my generation.

Route1

I am twenty and in the last year have seen many of my friends experiment with a variety of drugs from weed to cocaine. I myself have tried MDMA and I must say that the euphoric feeling was sensational but both morally and the rather unattractive physical effects it has, has stopped me. Up to the last year the thought using something other than alcohol disgusted me but I have seen many of my peers succumb to the pressure of taking them. I have noticed a shift in the nightlife in Dublin as well, many nightclubs such as Twisted Pepper, The lost society and the button factory are almost geared toward drug use, I personally have been offered "pills" as well as bring asked am i selling them on many occasions. Maybe I'm being naive and this happens at this stage in life for everybody but the drugs themselves have almost lost the taboo attached to him to me the level of acceptance is frightening. I hope I am not portraying a 'holier than thou' attitude it's just I kind of feel uncomfortable about the direction some of my peers are going.
I just want to hear peoples' thoughts on the matter and share their experiences.

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dmc17

Route1 wrote: »

I am aware that drugs have been around and in use for a lot longer than me, it's just how widespread they have become in recent years I'm referring to.

I thought they weren't as widespread these days but were more widespread when I was around 20. What can we conclude from this?

[Deleted User]

As others have said, it's not just rife in your generation. It's been rife for very many years. I'm not sure at 20 years old how it's possible for you to think that your generation is the worst tbh.

If you don't want to do drugs, don't do them, it's not a big deal at all. Most people grow out of it eventually anyway and get bored with the comedowns in the very same way most people grow out of alcohol and eventually get sick of having hangovers. It's a growing up thing.

kneemos

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Alcohol,tobacco coffee........your post applies to the whole country,you must be one in a million!

Exactly we have more than enough legal stuff.

Cantstandsya

Drugs etc are part of the human condition. I read a very convincing article years back the suggested that human intelligence had evolved alongside experimentation with mind altering/opening drugs/substances.

There is a reason that so many gravitate towards psychedelics/hallucinogenics and it is more nuanced than that they are all just degenerate wasters. The most open minded/intelligent people I know have experimented in this area. The human mind is a wonderful playground and you won't find the best slides or swings in the bible or any other prescriptive bull****.

I think in the future humanity will freely play with the borders of consciousness and the small minded prohibitions of the 21st century will be rightly lambasted.

[Deleted User]

kneemos wrote: »

Exactly we have more than enough legal stuff.

So you had no issue with people taking stuff from headshops then?

MonstaMash

Route1 wrote: »

I've never heard of overdosing from alcohol.

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/AlcoholOverdoseFactsheet/Overdosefact.htm

eireannBEAR

dmc17 wrote: »

I thought they weren't as widespread these days but were more widespread when I was around 20. What can we conclude from this?

Ah now heroin is available in every town i know,crack is in most and meth is in every big town,we have more drug addicts than ever before,there might have been more e's around a few years ago,but everything else is more available then before.

Pompous

Route1 wrote: »

I've never heard of overdosing from alcohol

I guess it never happened then. 'Drugs' must be far worse.

By the way, it's called alcohol poisoning. You clearly are not seeing the point, or you are and would prefer to debate semantics. Either way, best of luck with your misguided attitude towards 'drugs'.

[Deleted User]

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Ah now heroin is available in every town i know,crack is in most and meth is in every big town,we have more drug addicts than ever before,there might have been more e's around a few years ago,but everything else is more available then before.

I don't agree. I've seen people die from heroin use for the past 20 years and I'm fairly sure it wasn't only starting when I was in my teens.

nm wrote: »

That caught me as well.

What morally wrong with taking something you enjoy yourself? Not legally speaking now, morally speaking.

I think morally would come down to crime associated with drugs to be fair rather than the effects on the individual who has taken the drug.

bennyl10

Route1 wrote: »

Of course but thats a very selective statement. I've never heard of overdosing from alcohol, I don't think the late Katie French and Gerry Ryan were having a few cans of Dutch.

They werent smoking weed either.. which is a lot less harmfull than drink

dmc17

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Ah now heroin is available in every town i know,crack is in most and meth is in every big town,we have more drug addicts than ever before,there might have been more e's around a few years ago,but everything else is more available then before.

What I was saying is there are times in your life or situations when you are more exposed to these things and tend to have greater awareness of them.

eireannBEAR

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't agree. I've seen people die from heroin use for the past 20 years and I'm fairly sure it wasn't only starting when I was in my teens.

Im sure they did but the Deaths/addict numbers and availability of the drug was far less than it is today.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Firish-news%2Fdrug-use-continues-to-rise-outside-dublin-29557693.html&ei=2ensUo6YBqPT7AbCpoHYDw&usg=AFQjCNFRHu6Wu77FJj2xh1B25hjx2UoKzA&sig2=l9NUdWYjr0tiOUkfH7D1Vg&bvm=bv.60444564,d.ZGU

So while i respect your opinion its incorrect.

Cantstandsya

Route1 wrote: »

Of course but thats a very selective statement. I've never heard of overdosing from alcohol, I don't think the late Katie French and Gerry Ryan were having a few cans of Dutch.

Have you heard of many overdosing from weed?

There are of course numerous examples of death by alcohol overdose. Amy Winehouse as a famous example.

eireannBEAR

dmc17 wrote: »

What I was saying is there are times in your life or situations when you are more exposed to these things and tend to have greater awareness of them.

Sorry your 100% right man.

dmc17

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Sorry your 100% right man.

I agree with you on the availability of things, just from OP's point of view it not because of this that they're starting to notice them more.

The Backwards Man

Everybody seems to be having sex these days. When I was young I hardly ever had sex.

There must be more of it about these days.

[Deleted User]

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Im sure they did but the Deaths/addict numbers and availability of the drug was far less than it is today.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CHcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Firish-news%2Fdrug-use-continues-to-rise-outside-dublin-29557693.html&ei=2ensUo6YBqPT7AbCpoHYDw&usg=AFQjCNFRHu6Wu77FJj2xh1B25hjx2UoKzA&sig2=l9NUdWYjr0tiOUkfH7D1Vg&bvm=bv.60444564,d.ZGU

So while i respect your opinion its incorrect.

I guess because I've been living in dublin all of my life I haven't seen such a dramatic rise. Also perhaps because I would have been closer to a lot of it when I was younger as I grew up in a less as advantaged area, my perception may well be skewed.

eireannBEAR

Deleted User wrote: »

I guess because I've been living in dublin all of my life I haven't seen such a dramatic rise. Also perhaps because I would have been closer to a lot of it when I was younger as I grew up in a less as advantaged area, my perception may well be skewed.

In fairness dublin is the exception,its where it arrived and maintained its presence,the rest of the country got hit bad,im shocked it took as long as it did to travel down!!

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So you had no issue with people taking stuff from headshops then?

Headshots were a demonstration of what would happen if drugs were legalised i.e. queues down the street every weekend night.

falan

Drug use has been going on forever...My own love affair with yokes started when i was 16 in 1995 and lasted for 15 years. I've lived in city and countryside and both are awash with pills.

Spunge

Majority of irish people love to abuse drugs every weekend. Although most call it a drink.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9tdcGmBefM

For Forks Sake

Route1 wrote: »

I have noticed a shift in the nightlife in Dublin as well, many nightclubs such as Twisted Pepper, The lost society and the button factory are almost geared toward drug use, I personally have been offered "pills" as well as bring asked am i selling them on many occasions.

Your head would have exploded with disbelief if you'd been around when the Funnel or Columbia Mills were open

biko wrote: »

Drugs have been common since the 60s, only the variety changes.
Once glue sniffing was the fashion, mad stuff.

Still is, in certain parts of Norn Iron

Cantstandsya wrote: »

Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, chocolate, aspirin, etc.

Where is the line and who decides on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXPUN2z2CE

MadsL

kneemos wrote: »

Better to give your kids some Ecstasy tablets and a bag of weed when they're heading out to keep them of the drink?

Statistically they would be safer.

kneemos

MadsL wrote: »

Statistically they would be safer.

A lot fewer people take drugs than drink.

suicide_circus

an alarming element of drug use I have witnessed in the 18-23 age group: the use of ketamine as a replacement for cannabis.

MadsL

kneemos wrote: »

A lot fewer people take drugs than drink.

How does that mean the risk of harm is less? The harm of being drunk is a lot higher both in terms of body damage and potential harm through accident.

kneemos

MadsL wrote: »

How does that mean the risk of harm is less? The harm of being drunk is a lot higher both in terms of body damage and potential harm through accident.

Make sure your kids take drugs then.

MadsL

kneemos wrote: »

Make sure your kids take drugs then.

If it were weed and ecstasy, I would not be unduly concerned. I'd be a lot more concerned about my teen daughter being drunk in public.

bodice ripper

Cantstandsya wrote: »

Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, chocolate, aspirin, etc.

Where is the line and who decides on it.

Nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol.

C-c-c-c-c-COCAINE!

P_1

bodice ripper wrote: »

Nicotine, valium, vicodin, marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol.

C-c-c-c-c-COCAINE!

Chune!!!