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Ukraine on the brink of civil war

Crann na Beatha

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snubbleste

So?

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Link? I want to see that boxer fella who is apparently involved with the rebels spark the president out. SMACK.

Crann na Beatha

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My name is URL

snubbleste wrote: »

So?

Really?

snubbleste

My name is URL wrote: »

Really?

Yea!

ChunkyLover_53

Bad for our Gas prices.
Good for agriculture industry.

But at least Call of Duty will get a new storyline.

Banjo String

Phoenix wrote: »

if such were to happen will be felt all over Europe and the potential for a pan European conflict to come out of it

snubbleste wrote: »

So?

You're in Europe. Are you?

whiskeyman

I hope this current turmoil continues so there comes a point the politicians in the Capital have a go at the citizens for not acting enough, just so my morning Metro makes me chuckle with...

Who are you calling Chicken, Kiev?

Wibbs

It's looking interesting alright with a fair risk of a wider conflict if even only politically.

Says I To Bridey

Not a fear of it spreading to Europe. The EU is too weak willed and divided to get involved in something of that magnitude against Russia. They're afraid of doing anything in Syria, not a fear they'd do something or get a consensus to something on Putins doorstep

Karl Stein

Phoenix wrote: »

the potential for a pan European conflict

G'onawayoutathat.

PizzamanIRL

Ah sure it'll be a bit of craic.

My name is URL

snubbleste wrote: »

Yea!

It will drive energy prices up massively for a start. Ukraine is a key route for Russian energy coming into Europe.

And that's not to mention the risk of Russia becoming involved directly with what's going on there. That wouldn't be good for anyone.

P_1

The immediate impact of it here would be an increase in energy prices. It's a bit scary how much we rely on Russian gas when you think about it. Right now I can't see the EU getting involved in it and quite frankly I hope that remains the case. Hopefully it gets sorted diplomatically because a civil war with the tech that is available in Ukraine would make Syria look like a scuffle outside Coppers on a Saturday night.

Hande hoche!

The entire situation seems like a tinderbox. Some fantastic photographs coming out it though. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303670804579233474014492240

mike65

Every January Ukraine has a few weeks of riots and then it calms down.

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nocoverart

snubbleste wrote: »

So?

Muppet!

Aestivalis

Yeah I've been following this for a few months now. It started in november, and theres been MASSIVE protests, riots, and more all over ukraine.

Police have brutally beat protestors, tortured them, and killed people.
Protestors have retaliated, cornered police and beat them senseless.
There's various reports of military involvement too.

And there hasnt been a single thread on AH about it until now? jesus.

mike65

Phoenix wrote: »

????????

Look back over the last decade, there is bother every winter in Ukraine as westies and Mother Russia elements do battle, and the gas gets turned down for a while (making speculators richer).

Muise...

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

Bad for our Gas prices.
Good for agriculture industry.

But at least Call of Duty will get a new storyline.

With a Cypress Hill theme please. Every time I hear a headline about it, I think "insane in the Ukraine, insane in the brain..."

markesmith

Are the protests to do with greater freedoms, or is it a case that Russia is tightening the screw? Who would be the two opposing sides in a civil war?

Sorry, but my knowledge of the Ukraine ends circa 1943!

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Hande hoche!

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

Bad for our Gas prices.
Good for agriculture industry.

But at least Call of Duty will get a new storyline.

Those wacky UltraNationalists will no doubt be involved.

P_1

markesmith wrote: »

Are the protests to do with greater freedoms, or is it a case that Russia is tightening the screw? Who would be the two opposing sides in a civil war?

Sorry, but my knowledge of the Ukraine ends circa 1943!

Eastern Ukraine seems to want closer ties with Russia while Western Ukraine seems to want closer ties with Europe (with corresponding election results). The current president is of the party that represents the Eastern parts and exited talks to bring Ukraine closer to the EU to sign new agreements with Russia. That is what sparked the current round of protests. The government has since got more and more repressive in the wake of these protests and that's where we find things

c_man

Phoenix wrote: »

the potential for a pan European conflict to come out of it

Will I finally get drafted into the EU army?

MadYaker

I saw some pictures of a member of the opposition wearing a bulletproof vest in parliament.

woodoo

snubbleste wrote: »

So?

You are the coolest of them all..

6781

Russia are to blame for this current unrest. I'm all for the people of Ukraine wanting to stop Russian influences in their country. But most of the violence is organised the far right which is growing larger and at an alarming rate in Ukraine. You will see a lot of red and black flags same design as the current Ukraine flag used by the far right been waved at these protests or on football terraces. Also loads of graffiti with stuff like 14/88 all over the place there.

Ten of Swords

If Russia thought they were going to 'lose' Ukraine to Europe they would intervene pretty quickly.

Western Ukraine may be pro-Europe but the Russian 14th Army is located on Ukraine's western border in Transnistria.

+1 for whoever said the EU wouldn't get involved.