recedite wrote: » I think he is basically saying to the school patrons, when you control the schools, use that opportunity to evangelise/indoctrinate any non-RC kids to the maximum, and ignore that multicultural p.c. bullcrap attitude that some of the more liberal teachers might like to adopt.
Educate Together wrote: The Department for Education in London has announced that Educate Together will run the new primary school to be opened in Avonvale Road in Bristol in September 2014. The school will be a full two class per year primary school. It is one of three new schools being opened in Bristol in the next two years to address rapidly increasing pupil numbers in the city. The school is part of the British state-funded system, is open to all in the area and is not a private or fee-paying school. Speaking about the announcement, Paul Rowe, CEO of Educate Together said: "We are delighted to work with our partners within Educate Together Academy Trust in the development of this school. We are really excited about the development and are looking forward to working with local parents, the community, the English Department for Education and Bristol City Council to make sure that this school makes a real contribution to the educational landscape of Bristol and an excellent school for children and parents.”
ninja900 wrote: » Is it wrong of me to wish they'd concentrate all their efforts on this country?
Deputy Mattie McGrath: asked the Minister for Education and Skills Information on Ruairí Quinn Zoom on Ruairí Quinn his views on whether the Forum for Patronage Report was far too narrow in scope and centred much more around the religious education curriculum rather than any meaningful understanding of whole school ethos; his views on whether the forum report's philosophy will impose restrictions on Roman Catholic schools in respect of the way religious education is taught in Roman Catholic schools, on the way the religious artefacts are displayed, on the way prayer-life is conducted and the way the Christian ethos is lived; and if he will make a statement on the matter.
Minister for Education and Skills (Deputy Ruairí Quinn):The Report of the Advisory Group to the Forum on Patronage contains a wide range of recommendations aimed at ensuring that Irish schools cater for the diversity within society. These recommendations were drawn up following a public consultation process and widespread engagement with interested parties. As part of my Action Plan in response to the Report, I recently conducted a further consultation process to give parents, in particular, an opportunity to give their views on the Group's recommendations on how schools can become more inclusive. The process to date has given ample opportunity for the views of all interested parties to be taken on board. In accordance with the Programme for Government commitment, the submissions received, together with the Forum Report findings and recommendations, are now being considered with a view to developing a White Paper outlining Government policy in this area.
recedite wrote: » I think so. Wouldn't it be great to see them widespread in N.Ireland? If it works here, it should work in other jurisdictions that have a common historical background.
Sulla Felix wrote: » Thought this thread over on the Greystones/Wicklow sub-forum might be of interest here.http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057099520 Long story short, it appears CoI camaigned and won the right of patronage to a secondary school on the back of promises that admissions would be interfaith prioritizing seven particular schools. Now that the deal is done, ink is dry, a new admissions policy for the next admission year has appeared that's giving priority to CoI congregants.
ninja900 wrote: » In Northern Ireland, absolutely. but it seems bizarre to me in England where secular education is the norm.
Qs wrote: » Shouldn't have surprised anyone. The CoI school in Wicklow Town has the exact same policy. They are much, much more exclusionary than any of the RCC schools.
recedite wrote: » But that older school is privately owned, it was built by the COI. This new one is being constructed entirely with public money (its not open yet) and the patronage vote was won narrowly by COI. The non COI (ie non faith school) vote was split between ET and VEC. The only other secondary school in Greystones is RC, and many RC people seem to have voted for the COI as there was no RC bid for the patronage. Anyway as I'm living locally I've been making all these points since before the patronage was decided, but its amazing how many people think its only fair and right for the "winner" of the patronage competition to do whatever they want with the school afterwards. Its a "winner take all" attitude, similar to what you might see when politicians get into government. Its probably best not to flood that thread with < intemperate > comments at this stage though
SW wrote: » Education minister has said faith formation should happen outside the classroom.http://www.thejournal.ie/religion-class-schools-ireland-1282335-Jan2014/ Disappointed that the poll voters majority disagrees.
Quinn is at least asking these questions of religious bodies.
Banbh wrote: » Asking questions? He's the Minister in charge of doing things - and he's done nothing but cover his ass by setting up forums and committees. Very soon he will be out of office forever and the next Minister will be an obedient Catholic but at least the pretence will be over.
Zamboni wrote: » ET primary places have multiplied and they became patrons for secondary schools - substantial progress.
Zamboni wrote: » Ruiari Quinn has done more for the education system than anyone in the history of the state. ET primary places have multiplied and they became patrons for secondary schools - substantial progress. We can all ignore the practicalities of lack of funding/politics/church power and whinge about not having a complete secular education system but it would be pointless. He has done what he can with what he had.
