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What's your esb bill like after christmas?

RiverOfLove

Our bill at home is usually comes to about 150 euro sometimes around 160 or 170.

The esb bill came and it was 257 euro.

Anyways a got a message from my sister with my mother going into a fcuking raging fit blaming me for the high bill because I charge my ipod overnight about 2 or 3 times a week. 4 at the very most.

Never mind that it's right after xmas, it was middle of winter. An extra home for the holidays. All 3 of my siblings have tablet devices but it's just me and my ipod that caused the hike.

Would an ipod cause should a hike?

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Wanderer2010

Not as bad as I expected. 275euros, and that was with the plugs for the TV, crib, decorations on from 9am right up to 1am all over Xmas, internet on 24/7 for a week and lights, cooking etc at max. I was braced for about 400euros so very happy.

SpaceTime

ted1 wrote: »

Haha very true, blonde moment. Its 5.1vdc as oppose to 230VAC

I'd say if your bill is high its not your iPhone. Unless you're running the new iTumble Dryer

The BIG consumers of power in most homes are heating appliances and lighting.

Electronics make a tiny impact.

Even modern washing machines and dishwashers aren't that sore on power.

Some dishwashers actually use significantly less water and energy than using the rubber gloves, hot water and Fairy Liquid approach.
Non-heat pump dryers, especially cheap vented ones that run on timers rip through power.
Some condenser dryers are reasonably efficient.

Good insulation, retrofitting LED bulbs where affordable, decent windows that dont bleed energy and making sure your central heating system isn't wasting energy is a huge part of it.
You would be amazed at how some older central heating systems had no lagging and mostly heat the foundations of the house and space under the floor boards

Some Irish homes also have the boiler outside in a shed linked with inadequately lagged pipes that heat the garden!

There's a lot of really basic stuff that we should be looking at before lashing thousands on solar panels..

Pov06

€425 for the last 2 months.

Electrical heating

SCOOP 64

Pov06 wrote: »

€425 for the last 2 months.

Electrical heating

isn't this crazy, when will this end, just using candles and freezing to death.
it surely cant keep on getting dearer and dearer.

Teyla Emmagan

€200, just for me. Absolutely horrific!!!!!

Time to get a newbie deal with another provider I think.

shruikan2553

Pov06 wrote: »

€425 for the last 2 months.

Electrical heating

Even with storage heaters ours was 156 in a 2 bed apartment. Although now one of the guys is trying to get out of paying for the time he wasnt there of Christmas. Worked it out he has some claim of 9 euro back, and thats assuming he didnt use the fridge, freezer, heating etc.

[Deleted User]

97 euro which is average. Should be less though as the house was locked up for the two weeks for Christmas as myself and the other house mates were gone home all Christmas so it should be a low bill, it's not an estimate either. Doesn't make sense.

Gas bill was an estimate which of course was way off as they estimated high usage for Christmas when in fact there was no gas used for two weeks. Bill was twice the actual usage over the two months.

ted1

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

isn't this crazy, when will this end, just using candles and freezing to death.
it surely cant keep on getting dearer and dearer.

It will so you need to look at how you use it.

if your heating bill is high you need to look at the other options that are available to you for heating and also look at retaining the heat by means of better insulation.

if you have incandescent or halogen lamps, you need to replace them.
if you have old appliances you need to check the rating, see how much it costs to run for the year, then do the saem for an A rated appliance and see how fast the payback period is on changing the appliance

Titzon Toast

We just moved into a three bed house from a two bed apartment last week. I'm dreading what our gas and electricity are gonna be like now.
The apartment was handy to heat.

PhlegmyMoses

2 bed apartment. Electricty was around 90-100 iirc, gas not arrived yet but it'll be similar. It's not too bad. That's my worst bill of the year. Once the summer comes around it'll be ~0 for gas and 70 for electricty.

ted1

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

2 bed apartment. Electricty was around 90-100 iirc, gas not arrived yet but it'll be similar. It's not too bad. That's my worst bill of the year. Once the summer comes around it'll be ~0 for gas and 70 for electricty.

standing charge for gas is about 30 a month

[Deleted User]

ted1 wrote: »

standing charge for gas is about 30 a month

No it isn't, our gas bill in September was 14 euro and the bill in November was 36 euro (it was getting a bit of use to bring it up to 36 euro). Both bills were for two months.

Heroditas

ted1 wrote: »

To answer your question, the iPhone charger is 1500ma or 1.5 A *230volts = .345Kwh = 6 cents an hour when charging. a 2 hour charge time would mean 12c. Charging everyday would mean 84c a week or 43.80 euro a year or 7.30 per bill.

The charger certainly isn't operating off 230V! At most it's probably operating off about 5V.

EDIT: actually, just checked a charger for an iPad and it does operate off that voltage. Fancy that!

power101

430 for 73 days ending on the 24th January. Its for a two story apartment and there's four of us living here and we don't have any gas heating. So not too bad really for the worst months. 107.50 each

SpaceTime

Heroditas wrote: »

The charger certainly isn't operating off 230V! At most it's probably operating off about 5V.

EDIT: actually, just checked a charger for an iPad and it does operate off that voltage. Fancy that!

Fixed further up the thread

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=88653211&postcount=58

Power consumption by your phone is really, really tiny!

SpaceTime

CJC999 wrote: »

Charging your iPod overnight will only cost a few cent each time.

Christmas lights on the Christmas tree (if they're regular bulb type) will drive the bill up as will washing machines, tumble driers and the oven being on for long periods.

Actually it will cost a lot less than a few cents each time.
An 8 hour charge (using 5W of power) will cost you about €0.0076
So, not even 1 cent.

One 8 hour charge every day (unlikely to take that long) would only cost you €2.77 per YEAR.

In reality probably half that as the phone doesn't consume anything like 5W continuously as it's charging.
I'd guetimate about €1.50/year to charge your iPod, iPhone and maybe up to €3 per year to charge your iPad.

Sorry, but whoever's mother was blaming the iPod on the bill needs a lesson in basic laws of physics and power metering!

What's more likely are things like extra runs of the electric shower, which uses about 1900 times more power than your iPhone charger.
Maybe extra loads of laundry, the dishwasher running more, more lights on, more heat on and most importantly at Xmas : the oven(s) and cookers are used way more than usual.

PhlegmyMoses

ted1 wrote: »

standing charge for gas is about 30 a month

Most times around March\April I get an estimate that is too high. This is then rectified in June\July when a reading is taken meaning I've had bills in the minus in the past.

Galwayguy35

€136

vicwatson

WTF is Standing Charge 44.70 cent/per day

WTF is PSO Levy € 3.57 per month (I know what PSO stands for but why t f are we having to pay it) ?

Got bill today - € 224.80 - can't believe it, few bleedin christmas lights is all the extras.. Scandalous price, and it's an actual bill not estimated

I think the neighbours are robbing my lecky

OU812

Got ours in - €266 That's average sized family, but there is someone around all day & the tumble dryer goes on 4 - 5 times a week also. That's up from the previous bill of €200. Same period last year was €185 but we'd no tumble dryer then.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I pay a little weekly all year round & am actually in credit, so it's no biggie, but it's a pain in the tits that because of our ****ty weather that it costs me €10 a week to dry clothes

anncoates

Just got it there.

380 for Gas and Electricity combined December and January.

[Deleted User]

I wasn't home for two weeks, so it was minimal.

KTRIC

Got a bill for €330 for gas and esb, I was expecting more to be honest. It's not like its all year round.

Feisar

Don't know what the bill was like at home but since I'm there for two weeks over the Xmas I usually throw the mother €100 for expenses and towards the Christmas in general. Mum and Dad aren't tight but I'm twenty nine and working full time so no hard in sharing the love. This is obviously outside presents etc. In a previous job they used to give out a €200 voucher for a supermarket so I used to give that. Started from there.

meoklmrk91

I don't think I have managed to go over €65 yet. Expecting this one to break it though, haven't got it yet, had someone staying over Xmas, using heater etc.

jimgoose

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Our bill at home is usually comes to about 150 euro sometimes around 160 or 170.

The esb bill came and it was 257 euro.

Anyways a got a message from my sister with my mother going into a fcuking raging fit blaming me for the high bill because I charge my ipod overnight about 2 or 3 times a week. 4 at the very most.

Never mind that it's right after xmas, it was middle of winter. An extra home for the holidays. All 3 of my siblings have tablet devices but it's just me and my ipod that caused the hike.

Would an ipod cause should a hike?

This kind of crap leaves me weak. Tell her that your iPod draws 500mA at 5V when charging via it's USB charger. This is 2.5 watts. Assuming it takes the device two hours to charge, that's 5 watt-hours, or about 1/200 of an ESB unit. This means it costs somewhere in the region of tuppence to keep your iPod charged per two-monthly billing period.

Tell your mother to defrost the fridge, turn off lights when they're not used, lay off the Makin' Tae every five minutes, and turn off furkan Voice Of Ireland or whatever shyte it is this month and read a book.

Akrasia

ted1 wrote: »

To answer your question, the iPhone charger is 1500ma or 1.5 A *230volts = .345Kwh = 6 cents an hour when charging. a 2 hour charge time would mean 12c. Charging everyday would mean 84c a week or 43.80 euro a year or 7.30 per bill.

And this is why I charge my phone while I'm at work

I also do my poos at work to save on toilet paper

Akrasia

SpaceTime wrote: »

Actually it will cost a lot less than a few cents each time.
An 8 hour charge (using 5W of power) will cost you about €0.0076
So, not even 1 cent.

One 8 hour charge every day (unlikely to take that long) would only cost you €2.77 per YEAR.

In reality probably half that as the phone doesn't consume anything like 5W continuously as it's charging.
I'd guetimate about €1.50/year to charge your iPod, iPhone and maybe up to €3 per year to charge your iPad.

Sorry, but whoever's mother was blaming the iPod on the bill needs a lesson in basic laws of physics and power metering!

What's more likely are things like extra runs of the electric shower, which uses about 1900 times more power than your iPhone charger.
Maybe extra loads of laundry, the dishwasher running more, more lights on, more heat on and most importantly at Xmas : the oven(s) and cookers are used way more than usual.

And the cups of tea. Every time you boil a kettle it costs about 10 cents (and that's if you don't fill it right to the top)

We have the 'prepay power' in our house (we rent and had no choice in the matter) and there's a bright flashing light that gets faster the more power you're using. It's mad when you stick on the kettle and it's like there's a strobe light going off beside the fuse box

Cravez

€120 here. Only two of us though.

Pumpkinseeds

192 for 65 days, not as bad as we'd expected, still not great though.