bealtine wrote: » No it's not even officially announced yet...
ESBT has developed 16 Points of Presence (PoPs) around Ireland, in Dublin (CityWest, Carrickmines and Finglas), Arklow, Wexford, Waterford, Cork, Limerick, Shannon, Galway, Stradbally, Toomyvara, Sligo, Letterkenny, Carrick on Shannon and Dundalk (see map). Each of our PoP sites is equipped with fully configured, state of the art, co-location facilities.
SpaceTime wrote: » ESB connect rural homes to heavy gauge overhead copper power lines anyway. So for them, fibre overlaid on that is possibly quite simple.
bk wrote: » I'm afraid you are very wrong, please read these:http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/CableLabs-Releases-DOCSIS-31-Specification-126437http://www.lightreading.com/cable-video/docsis/docsis-31-makes-debut/d/d-id/706378http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/why-comcast-and-other-cable-isps-arent-selling-you-gigabit-internet/ 1Gb/s service coming to cable with DOCSIS 3.1 Coax is well able to carry gigabit speeds, it is even capable of doing it with DOCSIS 3.0, it is just a case of bonding more channels. A 860Mhz UPC cable has a total of 5Gb/s worth of bandwidth available to it:http://fastnetnews.com/docsisreport/163-c/4272-virgin-15-gigabit-cable-is-not-a-typo With DOCSIS3.1 that increases to 10Gb/s worth of bandwidth on a 860Mhz cable! Also I've not heard of a single cable company in the US move to GPON, yes some sell Fibre products to business from their HFC network, just as UPC does here, but not a single US cable company is moving to GPON for consumer BB.
ctlsleh wrote: » my point is that if you are digging a road tmorrow would you put down fibre (inifinite bandwidth, low cost) vs cable (there will be limited bandwidth, high cost).....its a no-brainer to invest in fibre. For existing deployments, then sure you can upgrade the bandwidth on existing coax, you have to upgrade all users on that coax at the same time however, ie, all DOCSIS modems need to upgraded at the same time= operational nightmare.
househero wrote: » You do realize that the ESB charge a HUGE fee for connecting a home to the network dont you??? If you need them to move poles, or add a couple to connect you it can easily cost 4k+
Manc Red wrote: » Well I found this:http://www.esbtelecoms.ie/emerald_bridge/overview.htm and this:http://www.esbtelecoms.ie/bandwidth_services/points_presence.htm
Manc Red wrote: » Is there a list of locations available yet?
provides an explicit legal basis to enable the ESB to engage, now or in the future, in the business of installing and operating an electronic communications network and providing electronic communications services, either alone or in conjunction with another company. The Bill extends the existing definition of electric line to include infrastructure associated with an electric line for the purpose of carrying electronic communications services. Appropriate provisions are also included in respect of the ESB’s existing wayleave powers in the context of its operation in the fully liberalised telecommunications market.http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2013/13513/b13513d-memo.pdfhttp://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2013/13513/b13513d.pdf
The ESB has identified an opportunity to use its electricity distribution network to provide telecommunications services in the Irish market. I understand the company has sought a joint venture partner with a view to providing such services on a wholesale-only basis. I am advised that this, in turn, could facilitate the delivery of high speed broadband services by retail telecommunications operators in the areas served. ... I understand from it that it is considering proposals to provide such services on a wholesale, open access basis with a joint venture partner. In August 2012 the company launched a call for expressions of interest in such a joint venture, attracting considerable interest from the telecommunications sector. I await with interest detailed formal proposals from it on the proposed joint venture. ... The current proposal differs from the ESB's existing fibre network in that it would be a stand-alone business, with no direct connection to the management of the electricity network, and it might be developed by way of a joint venture.
galait wrote: » Without reading the thread and getting my hopes up can I get a yes or no answer to my question. I live in a rural area but the Electricity Cables are underground , Does this rule me out of any POTENTIAL Broadband service from the ESB?
SpaceTime wrote: » I think ESB are planning on wholesale fibre and not being the ISP, so there is every possibility that UPC could use it.
nilhg wrote: » Complications could possibly arise, the ESB have a wayleave arrangement with farmers and there is a small payment per pole on your land, if another service is going to be delivered then maybe there is a case for some adjustment of that payment, can't see it being a problem though. Physically getting access across the land may be a factor though, we have crops here so putting heavy machinery into fields is probably only feasable after harvest, though something like a quad could possibly be used to drag in cables until the crops grow tall in the spring. ESB are well used to working round stuff like that though.
White Heart Loon wrote: » There is also a thing called shotgun damage, where disgruntled land owners shoot at the cables when they discover what they carry is worth much more than they originally dealt for.
GBCULLEN wrote: » and there is absolutely nothing on the ESB telecoms website, this is hot air and we should not get our hopes up. It sounds good in theory and reads well for the foreign press. there is a village in clare, kilmihill, over 650 plus inhabitants and they are restricted to 2.55mns dwon max, .. as the backhaul line can only take 16mbs, if eircom cant be a**d to put in a better system for a RURAL village this size I cant see ESB doing anything.
ted1 wrote: » Look it lets be honest it makes no financial sense to run cables to remote parts if the country for 650 people. When people choose to live in remote locations they should weigh up the pros and cons.
MrO wrote: » True, but my take on this is is that overall it's a positive thing. The more fibre that is pushed deeper into the country as a whole the more options people have.
ted1 wrote: » But really why should others subsidise the added cost if supplying connections to people who chose to live in remote areas. A block of apartments in Dublin can contain 650 people and probably involve a run if 100m where's as the one in Clare would involve running a cable several km along with the added infrastructure needed to cover this distance
The ESB has identified an opportunity to use its electricity distribution network to provide telecommunications services in the Irish market. I understand the company has sought a joint venture partner with a view to providing such services on a wholesale-only basis. I am advised that this, in turn, could facilitate the delivery of high speed broadband services by retail telecommunications operators in the areas served. ... I understand from it that it is considering proposals to provide such services on a wholesale, open access basis with a joint venture partner. In August 2012 the company launched a call for expressions of interest in such a joint venture, attracting considerable interest from the telecommunications sector. I await with interest detailed formal proposals from it on the proposed joint venture. ... The current proposal differs from the ESB's existing fibre network in that it would be a stand-alone business, with no direct connection to the management of the electricity network, and it might be developed by way of a joint venture.http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2014012200045?opendocument#TT00400
Nody wrote: » Very unlikely; wave one would likely be 4k+ villages and then they would work down from there basically in village sizes.
