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Mount Carmel Hospital to close

Gael23

Shocking news. Will have an impact on a lot of people.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/three-hundred-jobs-lost-as-liquidator-appointed-to-mount-carmel-hospital-29947364.html

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spank_inferno

They can poop out their babies in the cattle mart that is Holles street.

Anita B Jaynow

That's a shame.

Frank Black

ryanf1 wrote: »

Shocking news. Will have an impact on a lot of people.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/three-hundred-jobs-lost-as-liquidator-appointed-to-mount-carmel-hospital-29947364.html

Private company goes into liquidation?

Excuse me if I refuse to be shocked.

VONSHIRACH

Where will the caesarians be performed now?

Gael23

I had eye surgery there 4 years ago, they do a lot more than c sections

Dyr

Some its clients may have to use public hospitals now, oh the humanity

force eleven

This is the (partly/mostly) the impact of health insurance hikes, more to follow I'm afraid.

Zillah

It's a four story hospital, only one of those floors is for maternity. They have a day ward where all manner of treatments are done, a full blood lab, a dietician and an X-Ray department. Their patients range from kids getting their tonsils done to old folks getting..well, all manner of things.

Shame that so many jobs are probably going to be lost.

Bambi wrote: »

Some its clients may have to use public hospitals now, oh the humanity

A small but significant percentage of their patients are actually there on the public plan.

Yes I used to work there

[Deleted User]

300 + people went into work today to be told their jobs are gone. A quick look at their wesbite tells me that Mount Carmel is going into its 65th year, it's a very sad day when we see a business that's around that long close its doors.

But sure no doubt this thread will be full of bitter thanks whoring posts by people who convince themselves that only the elite have health insurance.

Gael23

Deleted User wrote: »

300 + people went into work today to be told there jobs are gone. A quick look at their wesbite tells me that Mount Carmel is going into it's 65th year, it's a very sad day when we see a business that's around that long close it's doors.

But sure no doubt this thread will be full of bitter thanks whoring posts by people who convince themselves that only the elite have health insurance.

Well we all know that's not true. I was private but my consultant at the time advised us to go there rather than the eye & ear hospital. To be honest I was feeling so awful afterwards I could have been on a public ward with 8 others and not noticed.

seamus

ITT: People sneering at other people for having the audacity to pay for better healthcare.

Ironically, I imagine lots of those laughing about the "poor rich people" were probably born in Mount Carmel themselves.

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ryanf1 wrote: »

Well we all know that's not true.

All know what's not true?

spank_inferno

seamus wrote: »

Ironically, I imagine lots of those laughing about the "poor rich people" were probably born in Mount Carmel themselves.

"Probably"??

You sure?

I don't know how many babies are born there, but I imagine its a small proportion of all in this nation.

Gael23

Deleted User wrote: »

All know what's not true?

That only the elite have health insurance. Sorry should have been clearer.

[Deleted User]

ryanf1 wrote: »

That only the elite have health insurance. Sorry should have been clearer.

Hang around AH long enough and you'll think differently!

Eight Ball

Oh no will expectant women from D4 have to slum it with the working classes in public hospitals now? Oh the poor things.

McGrath5

What an awful shame, I hope the staff there can find employment elsewhere quickly.

wiz569

Very sad

I was born there,

Sorry slightly off topic.

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Eight Ball wrote: »

Oh no will expectant women from D4 have to slum it with the working classes in public hospitals now? Oh the poor things.

Working class people have babies there too.

How do you feel about all the people losing their jobs?

Eutow

Eight Ball wrote: »

Oh no will expectant women from D4 have to slum it with the working classes in public hospitals now? Oh the poor things.

The hospital performs other procedures as well in case you didn't know. Anyway, do you have a problem with people paying private healthcare?

Bambi wrote: »

Some its clients may have to use public hospitals now, oh the humanity

Yeah, because that's the most important issue. :rolleyes:

GCU Flexible Demeanour

force eleven wrote: »

This is the (partly/mostly) the impact of health insurance hikes, more to follow I'm afraid.

How is it the impact of "heath insurance hikes". Sure, the insurers are paying out substantially more in claims now than in 2008. Point to another business that's have an increase in income since 2008.

There's a drop of a few percent in the population covered by private health insurance. But that's quite different to saying that the private hospital sector have had a drop in income.

Fratton Fred

seamus wrote: »

Ironically, I imagine lots of those laughing about the "poor rich people" were probably born in Mount Carmel themselves.

And moan about skangers/unemployed/travellers/Atari jaguars.

josip

I have heard an obstetrician remark that just because it was a private maternity, it didn't guarantee that the baby would be safer.
They said that obstetrician experience is most important and that in a busy public hospital obstetricians would have more experience for the full spectrum of potential complications than in a smaller private hospital.
Is there any truth to this?

P_1

Any hospital having to close its doors is not good news no matter where the hospital is or the socio-economic status of its patients.

GCU Flexible Demeanour

josip wrote: »

I have heard an obstetrician remark that just because it was a private maternity, it didn't guarantee that the baby would be safer.

They said that obstetrician experience is most important and that in a busy public hospital obstetricians would have more experience for the full spectrum of potential complications than in a smaller private hospital.

Is there any truth to this?

There's some truth to it. Mount Carmel wouldn't have the capacity to deal with a real medical emergency. When such cases arose, they'd have to pop mother and baby into an ambulance and get them to Holles Street ASAP.

Gael23

josip wrote: »

I have heard an obstetrician remark that just because it was a private maternity, it didn't guarantee that the baby would be safer.
They said that obstetrician experience is most important and that in a busy public hospital obstetricians would have more experience for the full spectrum of potential complications than in a smaller private hospital.
Is there any truth to this?

I believe that they are now equipped to deal with any emergency after 32 weeks. I'm not sure about complications with the mother though.

Teyla Emmagan

I had my wisdom teeth taken out there and my sister had a tonsillectomy. It's a nice, small, clean hospital and I know a few people working there, this will be an awful loss to the area.

I would never have had a baby there mind, I'm still very sorry to hear it's closing. Less choice is a bad thing for all of us. Hope all those people who have paid deposits for upcoming surgeries get their money back.

anncoates

If people want to pay extra, it's their call.

That said, I was once told by a colleague (who had both their kids in MC) that in the case of some natal/postnatal emergencies you would have to be sent to The Coombe anyway as they weren't equipped to deal with it in MC?

Does anybody know if this is true?

If it is, it seems a bit pointless to pay through the nose for cosmetic luxuries when going private in a public hospital at least would prevent you having to make an ambulance dash across the city in the event of something going wrong.

emmabrighton

I was booked in there but was shipped St Elsewhere when my baby started having difficulty at 22 weeks. He was born a prem at 28 weeks in the rotunda in the public ward.

*Oh No!!!!!!* - my skanger northsider son

Except for the massive trek to the toilet after an emergency c-section, it was a lovely hospital... lovely midwives, neonatal nurses, sonographers, cleaning staff and of course Prof. Malone.

I actually found the level of service at my appointments much better than in Mt Carmel. Was waiting 2 hrs one day at Mt Carmel...

So, dont worry mums...

Frank Black

P_1 wrote: »

Any hospital having to close its doors is not good news no matter where the hospital is or the socio-economic status of its patients.

No it's not. We have far too many hospitals for a country that has the same population as the greater Manchester Area.

We need less hospitals and better services in those that remain.

Unfortunately any time we try to stream-line medical services in this country a local action group puts pressure on their local representatives and the Joe Duffy phone-in shows are clogged with callers who think that even though they live in Ballybackass they shouldn't be more than a 10minute drive from their nearest hospital.

Airy-Fairy attitudes like yours ensure we will always have a **** health system.