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Your reasons for emigrating

lufties

Not sure if this has been a topic before, but I'll give it a go anyway.

Having been away from Ireland a few years now, I reflected recently on my life then in comparison to now. The real standout thing I can say is that I'm more confident and comfortable in my own skin(perhaps that's down to maturing with age). Anyway this got me thinking why I left in the first place back in 2009. It wasn't actually things like unemployment, corruption or anything to do with politicians. The recession was only a small part of the reason that I headed off.

The main ones I came up with were the following;
Career-My career was stagnant at home and I didn't 'fit in' to the mould.
Excitement and adventure-A new life abroad,new place,new people etc.
Leaving the past behind-As it says, along with a fresh start.
Finding myself-I always cringed when people say 'oh he/she went off to find his/herself. Now I get it.
A new challenge-to challenge myself, to grow as a person and become more worldly.
Relationships-having had a couple of failed ones under my belt, I naively thought that finding 'the one' would perhaps be easier overseas.
Right time- It certainly was with the country on it's knees.

Anyway so I wondered as the thread title suggests ,why others have emigrated?

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lufties

Thargor wrote: »

Thanks, what do people usually do, save up 6 months living expenses in the target country (probably Oz for me) then just go? Or should you line up a job first? Scientific background, just realising now Ive never really done anything interesting and wanderlust is starting to creep in...

The right to live and work in your target country and having some money behind you are the most important things. Why Oz though? There's so many other places.

lufties

crockholm wrote: »

Well,yeah.
And funny that you mention scenery,because where we live,there isn't any.It's the same old flat land,forests and lakes,and rocks poking outta the ground.And it's the same if you go 300km South or 300km North.
I just get the feeling that the economy here is starting to turn for the worse,the schools here are absolutely sh1t at everything bar English and gender-studies.
All these thing and more are just making me want do something drastic.

i visited stockholm once and loved the scenery going from arlanda on the train to the city. A buddy of mine lived in the bible belt area and nearly went insane .

They are mad into making a neutral gender over there, the men seem to be preening and feminine lol. Oh yeah and whats the story with the tattoo craze? :eek:

Thargor

I dont know, never really been anywhere interesting, I think it would have to be an English speaking country though.

Cant decide between spending the time getting more qualifications in Ireland or trying to set up a new life somewhere else, never been happy in my current rut is all I know for sure.

sasta le

Most under 30 even 35 is for the craic that i know few doing well in there trade area.Older ones for work and quality of life

crockholm

lufties wrote: »

i visited stockholm once and loved the scenery going from arlanda on the train to the city. A buddy of mine lived in the bible belt area and nearly went insane .

They are mad into making a neutral gender over there, the men seem to be preening and feminine lol. Oh yeah and whats the story with the tattoo craze? :eek:

And you get the same repetitive scenery for 300 clicks in each direction(excluding driving into the Baltic sea) The first time I saw the drumlin country in Monaghan I was fascinated by it,but you rarely hear people describing it as a Beautiful county.
M.I.L. lives down in the bible belt( Småland),the boredom is unbearable.

Unfortunately they don't take the batshyt crazy sociology dingbats with a pinch of salt(or cyanide) they actually listen to the goofballs.

Streets full of hipsters and I had the misfortune of being at the World gathering of ass-clown whiggers when I took a family member to an amusement pk in the middle of Stockholm only for the Wu-Tang-Clan to be playing there the same day,bad tatoos ahoy!!!!

As to be expected with the falling standard of education and youth unemployment of between 20-25 %

lufties

crockholm wrote: »

And you get the same repetitive scenery for 300 clicks in each direction(excluding driving into the Baltic sea) The first time I saw the drumlin country in Monaghan I was fascinated by it,but you rarely hear people describing it as a Beautiful county.
M.I.L. lives down in the bible belt( Småland),the boredom is unbearable.

Unfortunately they don't take the batshyt crazy sociology dingbats with a pinch of salt(or cyanide) they actually listen to the goofballs.

Streets full of hipsters and I had the misfortune of being at the World gathering of ass-clown whiggers when I took a family member to an amusement pk in the middle of Stockholm only for the Wu-Tang-Clan to be playing there the same day,bad tatoos ahoy!!!!

As to be expected with the falling standard of education and youth unemployment of between 20-25 %

Good lord, seems to be a bit of a mad place in fairness, would the Norwegians be any different though?

SweepTheLeg

I would love to emigrate, but wouldn't know where to start. I have no debt or family responsibility so that's a positive.

I've joked around with my friends about it and they all said the same thing. "Sure why would ya wanna leave, It's the best of craic here."

Kippure

To leave this stinking corrupt banana republic and not be a Financial Slave.

average hero

I am in the same position as many of you guys here, but at a younger age than some of you.

Recent university graduate (2.1 Marketing/Business), 25, living in Dublin working as a bouncer in a very busy pub while I try to make sense of things.

Things are okay, but I am just stuck in a rut! I know if I don't make some sort of a move, that I will be stuck in the exact same situation for the next two to three years anyway.

Options are: Head to the States for a 1 year visa if I can get the cash together before November or head to the UK/Germany to look for a graduate job. No idea where to start though.

Great thread folks, particularly relevant to where I am in life right now!

segaBOY

I found the work edict and attitude of people to be better here (work for a company in London with many Europeans). Also I find it easier to meet nice women over here, not sure is it because I am more of a "novelty" here than at home or is it the choice/attitude of women here, or both.

lufties

segaBOY wrote: »

I found the work edict and attitude of people to be better here (work for a company in London with many Europeans). Also I find it easier to meet nice women over here, not sure is it because I am more of a "novelty" here than at home or is it the choice/attitude of women here, or both.

Good to hear, i'm heading to London in a few weeks and don't know what to expect, looking forward to it though as I got a good job.

CountingClocks

marozz wrote: »

I left for the Netherlands in 1987, I had a Dutch girlfriend at the time, but leaving Ireland was the norm in the 80's. It was a great adventure, I managed to travel all over Europe, went to art college and learned to speak Dutch. I spent 10 years in Holland but I'm glad I came back. I met a Dublin lass got married ...etc:)

I am now working for the Dutch department of a large US company. Pays the bills, and the Dutch lingo came in handy.

I left for NL in 1998 when I got a good job offer, it's been great but after 16 years I'm planning on returning to Ireland later this year

FatherTed

I sort of fell into my situation of emigrating as I wasn't really looking to do so. I was working for a US company that had a small office in Galway with about 40 people. The US management quickly decided to layoff almost everybody include myself, except for 5-6 who were tasked with winding down the activities in the office over the course of the next year or so. Unbeknownst to those management guys, I was in the middle of working on a project for the main office in the US so of course the project leaders blew a gasket when they found out I was given the boot. A week after I was laid off, they were on the phone to me asking to move to the US for about 6 months to complete the project. It was April and I said sure, I'll go for the Summer and a have good time. Moved over here to the US, finished that project, then they wanted me to go to Galway to finish up some stuff ther, was back for 3 months for that Christmas, then back over to the US for another project and they offered me a full time job. All that time I was having a great time here and then much to my surprise I was awarded one of those Morrison visas, got a better job in NYC, met my future wife and the rest is history.

So my original 6 month Summer of fun has now lasted 21 years. Don't miss Ireland much, always look forward to going back and but as soon as I get there, can't wait to leave again.

Sleepy

Always wanted to leave for the same reason many are posting: I've never really "fit in" here in Ireland. No idea where I'd be happier but with a wife and 2 small kids the option to just head off and try different places has been fairly restricted. I regret not travelling more when I was younger. Had I realised the demands for my skillset abroad in the mid 00's I'd almost certainly be living in London / Sydney or Toronto right now but wouldn't have met my wife either... swings and roundabouts I guess!

Holsten

I left for employment, standard of living, weather, people, etc..

There is just so many bad points about this country for myself that outweigh the good ones.

Hated the fact I had to come back and am trying to leave once again.

LizT

Left for work but also want to do some travelling as well. I don't love my job but I do love the opportunities it's affording me, will have ticked a lot of places to see off my bucket list by the time I come home, hopefully.

Don't know if I can see myself moving away from Ireland for good though.

Eutow

Holsten wrote: »

I left for employment, standard of living, weather, people, etc..

There is just so many bad points about this country for myself that outweigh the good ones.

Hated the fact I had to come back and am trying to leave once again.

Same as you. Lived abroad for a while, never wanted to leave, couldn't get sponsored. Hate the fact I'm back and can't wait to leave again.

--LOS--

Moved to Amsterdam last August to do a masters which will last 2 years although I will probably be here beyond that or at least somewhere that isn't Ireland. The main motivation was the cost tbh, it's cheaper for me to study abroad and my course was not even available in Ireland anyway. Studying/living abroad is a great experience and I wish I had done my undergrad abroad too had I been more aware of such opportunities when I was younger. Love the lifestyle over here, it's very easy-going, it's an incredible city, there is so much to do, always something going on unlike Dublin. The Netherlands and Germany have some of the best employment rates for young people at the minute..... http://www.europarl.europa.eu/resources/library/images/20130426PHT07645/20130426PHT07645_original.jpg?epbox[reference]=20130419STO07453 and you can sense that over here, people are completely oblivious of how hard things are in Ireland.

Aidric

Career growth. I had always wanted to gain experience working abroad, getting made redundant was the kick up the ass I needed.

I was in a long term relationship with a Czech girl at the time and so we moved to Prague. I had no issue picking up a good job in an International company of repute and stayed with them for 3 years in Prague and loved every minute of it. Then a great opportunity opened in Switzerland and they approached me about putting myself forward. I applied and was successful, got transferred in October to Zurich. I am very happy with the experience to date and have no immediate desire to return home.

maguic24

lufties wrote: »

Yea true, tryin' to stay off it myself.

Can't beat Irish women for the craic though.

Men, Women, Sheep doesn't matter, if they're born and reared in Ireland they are up for the craic. You can't beat the Irish sense of humour. You go abroad and people just don't get it, they probably think us Irish are weird as fudge....

Femme_Fatale

Thargor wrote: »

Is 30 too old to emigrate now do you think?

No age is too old to emigrate - you just emigrate.

Ties/finances/career are what could stop someone; age has no effect.

rainbow kirby

Moved to London 6 months ago because I got sick of travelling all the time in a long distance relationship. My OH moved here just over 3 years ago to take up a graduate civil engineering job after being on the dole for 2 years back home. Pretty happy over here, enjoying my job and took a nice pay increase in the process.

Was an easy choice to move in the end - I was happy enough to try a chance of scenery even though there is a decent amount of work in my field in Dublin, but none for him so we would have ended up pretty broke if he'd moved back home! Also, we really like our sports, and there are few better places to be for that. Heading to the Emirates tomorrow after work for the FA Cup 4th round match, and then walking the 1 mile up the road home, for example! I've got quite a few more subtle issues with things back in Ireland too so good to get away from that.

It's also quite nice to only be an hour's flight from home and in the same time zone - my younger brother emigrated in 2011 to Christchurch, New Zealand. 30 hours of flying and a 13 hour time difference at this time of year. Much harder to get home for family things or in an emergency. He loves it there though, and as a carpenter he has all the work he could possibly have.

Eight Ball

Holsten wrote: »

I left for employment, standard of living, weather, people, etc..

There is just so many bad points about this country for myself that outweigh the good ones.

Hated the fact I had to come back and am trying to leave once again.

If you are young enough get out and stay out. Nothing has changed and if anything the corruption and passive attitude of the Irish has gotten worse over the last few years and already another property bubble is being talked up by our "fair and balanced media". Worst mistake I ever made was coming back in 1999 after living abroad for 12 years.

astonaidan

I notice a common thing said is that there is alot more to do in X country besides drinking.
There is plenty to do in Ireland besides drinking.

I plan on emigrating to Australia when finished Uni because I love the weather and the lifestyle suited me, but I drank alot more over there than back here

sawdoubters

my bullet proof vest seems not to stop getting shot in the head

lufties

astonaidan wrote: »

I notice a common thing said is that there is alot more to do in X country besides drinking.
There is plenty to do in Ireland besides drinking.

I plan on emigrating to Australia when finished Uni because I love the weather and the lifestyle suited me, but I drank alot more over there than back here

Thats very true, I drank a lot more in germany than anywhere else, probably because the beer is cheaper and of better quality.

jank

Left for NZ 5 and a half years ago on a WHV. Left because I wanted to see more of the world. There is no hard luck sob story with me tbh, no real push factors other than I was bored. Left a permanent decent job to start a new life on the other side of the world starting from scratch. Anyway, long story short got a job in NZ which suited my skill set after a few months of looking and working ****ty jobs (packing socks into boxes anyone for 4 euro an hour?). This new job had an opening in Sydney which I put my hand up for. Still here and will be sitting my citizenship test in 3 weeks time…

It would be nice if the story ended with happily ever after but I am planning on leaving OZ in the next year or two to do some travelling and see what job prospects are like in North America or Europe. Would love to move to the US, especially west coast. Canada maybe but I hear wages are only OK and tbh its a poor mans USA imo. UK may be on the cards as well but that is the easy option… No idea where I will be in 5 years, maybe back in Ireland as ones priorities in life changes as you get older. Will always be able to return to OZ though when I want. I think its more of a factor that I want to move to reassure myself that OZ is in fact awesome and that I made the right decision to live here. Has some drawbacks though being so far away from home.

fishfarmer

I originally left to go to university in Scotland since I wasn't offered any courses in Ireland that really interested me.

Stayed after graduating because I got a job I love in a beautiful part of the world.

I actually despise the UK though and if I was offered a similar job elsewhere in the world I'd jump at it.

lufties

jank wrote: »

Left for NZ 5 and a half years ago on a WHV. Left because I wanted to see more of the world. There is no hard luck sob story with me tbh, no real push factors other than I was bored. Left a permanent decent job to start a new life on the other side of the world starting from scratch. Anyway, long story short got a job in NZ which suited my skill set after a few months of looking and working ****ty jobs (packing socks into boxes anyone for 4 euro an hour?). This new job had an opening in Sydney which I put my hand up for. Still here and will be sitting my citizenship test in 3 weeks time…

It would be nice if the story ended with happily ever after but I am planning on leaving OZ in the next year or two to do some travelling and see what job prospects are like in North America or Europe. Would love to move to the US, especially west coast. Canada maybe but I hear wages are only OK and tbh its a poor mans USA imo. UK may be on the cards as well but that is the easy option… No idea where I will be in 5 years, maybe back in Ireland as ones priorities in life changes as you get older. Will always be able to return to OZ though when I want. I think its more of a factor that I want to move to reassure myself that OZ is in fact awesome and that I made the right decision to live here. Has some drawbacks though being so far away from home.

That is the primary drawback of Oz/NZ, couldn't live that far from family, I'd never settle in.

razorblunt

The weather! Posted from Edinburgh!

Grad role offered here, didn't want Dublin and that year a lot of companies had closed their schemes anyway. Best decision I made. Will be home someday but right now it's only across the water!