[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Regulations will come into effect on March 1st 2014 and the Code of Practice to accompany them will, we understand be published by the Department in the coming months.
Penncil Dick wrote: » Here's the link to the CIF:http://cif.ie/news-events/current-news/ciri/ One other important item I forgot to mention about it, contractors/companies have to renew their membership each year. So it's not a case of signing up once and then letting things like tax/insurance/CPD lapse, they have to provide that info each year to remain on the register.
The Department in a briefing session to Engineers Ireland on 17th January confirmed that anyone nominating themselves as builder may be deemed to be not compliant under the new regulations. Under the current regulations a “competent person” must be nominated by a building owner to undertake qualifying projects. The department and CIF representatives indicated that a competent person must be the Director or Principal of a Building Company with a minimum of 3 years building experience. On project completion the new regulation specifies that a “Principal of a Building Company” only may sign the builders completion certificate. The local authority can decide that the Completion Certificate is invalid if not signed by the Director or Principal of a Building Company and has the power to prohibit the owner from occupying or using the building indefinitely.
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DvB wrote: » Quick one, it may be glaringly obvious but we're struggling to find out.... 'IF' works (extension to a dwelling) of less than 40sq/m are proposed & planning is not a factor, does a commencement notice have to be lodged? & If so does it require submission on the e-register or as per current regulations as a hardcopy?
Penncil Dick wrote: » As 4Sticks said, you won't have to, but if it's how the majority of developments are being constructed, the banks will likely look for the same practice to be followed in terms of certification and inspection framework, even if it's not submitted to the local authority.
sydthebeat wrote: » can anyone forsee if there will now be a restriction on those who can submit Fire safety Certificate applications under these regs?
4Sticks wrote: » I think we are seeing the end of undocumented construction works in Ireland. It will take time to die off - but it will die off.
dathi wrote: » "the department and cif representative indicated that a competent person must be the director or principal of a building company with a minimum of 3 years building experience" does this not create a bar to new entrants to the market as on cif website you must show 3 years experience to be able to register but under new regs you cannot be contractor unless you are on the list
sydthebeat wrote: » This is a good thing and will stop cowboys with a 4x4 and mobile phone from setting themselves up as builders. Also hopefully it will weed out the incompetent builders as certifiers will refuse to work with those they don't think are competent.
dathi wrote: » from ciri.ie "everyone from house builders to plasterers from road builders to plumbing specialists will be able to apply for listing on the register" at least a plumber has a level 6 qualification with which he can prove competency , but a "builder" still does not need a qualification only that he is tax compliant and has managed to stay in business for 3 years . while it is a start to weed out the non tax compliant, it is hardly a good way to weed out the 4x4 cowboys who are not competent builders.
BillboyBaggins wrote: » Does anyone know - to avoid going through the new regulations coming out, does the application need to be submitted or approved by March 1st 2014?
sydthebeat wrote: » better than nothing anyway.... but the way i see it there wll only be a select few 'assigned certifiers' working in particular areas. These assigned certifiers will quickly become, if not already, aware of the standards being produced by different registered builders. As the certifier is putting their balls on the line, they should not be slow about telling a client they wont certify particularly bad builders work.
dathi wrote: » yes i agree that this is the way certifiers will probably work.but this also gives rise to the problem that when the client asks a arch to design and cert house he will be told they only work with builder a or b resulting in little or no competition in tendering and higher costs to client.
sydthebeat wrote: » im hearing of figures of 8% of construction costs to administer these new regs... so on a 200K tender thats 16k
wirehairmax wrote: » Hard to justify that sort of cost. Will the "assigned certifier" be on site every day? What are the requirement to become an "assigned certifier" ? Sounds like a riai figure of 8%
The building control process, in order to be effective, requires an Inspection Plan of appropriate intensity and frequency. However, it is not practicable for every item of work to which the Building Regulations relate to be examined. The supervision by the Builder is, therefore, of critical importance. The test of the Inspection Plan will be its success in achieving reasonable standards of health and safety in or about buildings, energy conservation, accessibility and sustainability for building users.
wirehairmax wrote: » What are the requirement to become an "assigned certifier" ? Sounds like a riai figure of 8%
a person named on a register maintained pursuant to Part 3 or Part 5 of the Building Control Act 2007 or Section 7 of the Institution of Civil Engineers of Ireland (Charter Amendment) Act 1969
