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January wildcard

FHFC

If I may be so bold as to start a new thread.

What are peoples plans/strategy for this in Jan?

Is it best to get it done early to try to gain ground and value or wait a while and see if there are any nice new signings about provided your team is on midline shape?

When is generally best for price rises? Do the majority of casual players go on jan 1 and the prices go crazy or is it evenly spread over the month? It's a 10 day GW at the start too, although so is the last week of the month.

Finally, how the hell do we not end up all with the exact same team, or 90% the same at least?

First time playing so interested but I'm sure the discussion would be of interest to all.

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Mr.Prodston

If I crumble and get Yaya like the rest of ye I could go for something like this.

Naturally Johnson probably wouldn't be long term but for 3 weeks could be handy. Cahill may not be 100% sure of his place. It's not as wild as I'd like though.

FHFC

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

If I crumble and get Yaya like the rest of ye I could go for something like this.

Naturally Johnson probably wouldn't be long term but for 3 weeks could be handy. Cahill may not be 100% sure of his place. It's not as wild as I'd like though.

If you got yaya you really gotta have Hazard...

Go for a cheap 5th mid instead?

Man if you are wavering my resistance is gone!!

Edit. Oh btw, you seem to have m turner in there, surely thats a mistake??

Mr.Prodston

FHFC wrote: »

If you got yaya you really gotta have Hazard...

Go for a cheap 5th mid instead?

Man if you are wavering my resistance is gone!!

Edit. Oh btw, you seem to have m turner in there, surely thats a mistake??

I would rather quit the game than get rid of Mickey Turner. It's no coincidence that my drop in form coincides with Turner's injury, get that magic sponge quick :eek: I have made my bed and will keep my morals. What is FPL without Mr.P having Turner? A scary world.

Nah I'll keep Silva I think, that team isn't wild enough for my liking.

remoteboy

Ok. I'm totally conflicted at this point. Have had a great couple of weeks and shot up in most of my leagues. Currently sitting in top 25k. Haven't played the wildcard yet and now kind of afraid to in case I lose any of the momentum I've gained.

This is what I have at the moment

And this is what I'm thinking

I'm not touching the front line. In terms of midfield I'm keeping Cabaye and Hazard but thinking of going Henderson to Eriksen, Silva to Yaya and Oviedo to Januzaj.

This means swapping Mert for Kos, Terry for Azpi and Howard for Boruc.

Too much messing when the team works fine as is? What do you think?

veXual

finnharpsboy wrote: »

i made a total b@lls of my WC, points hits need to be taken to get it back in order

When did you play it? If you played after this gameweek its active for the next two weeks..

Hackers

You look to have a decent budget to play with as I would be a full 1.0m short if i were to replicate that squad.

Having no Arsenal attacking coverage would concern me. Since you have Adebayor to cover Spurs, maybe Ramsey instead of Eriksen would be something to consider?

Assuming you will play that front 3 every week that means 1 of your 5 midfielders will need to be benched every week. Maybe downgrading 1 of them to a cheaper bench fodder player should be considered and use the funds elsewhere?

In your defense you have a similar issue as outlined above in your midfield whereby you have 4 players from the top sides and you may not play them every week. Again you could downgrade one of those to create further funds elsewhere.

Extra funds could be used to upgrade Azpil to Ivanovic / Cahill or one of your keepers to Hart maybe?

remoteboy wrote: »

Ok. I'm totally conflicted at this point. Have had a great couple of weeks and shot up in most of my leagues. Currently sitting in top 25k. Haven't played the wildcard yet and now kind of afraid to in case I lose any of the momentum I've gained.

This is what I have at the moment

And this is what I'm thinking

I'm not touching the front line. In terms of midfield I'm keeping Cabaye and Hazard but thinking of going Henderson to Eriksen, Silva to Yaya and Oviedo to Januzaj.

This means swapping Mert for Kos, Terry for Azpi and Howard for Boruc.

Too much messing when the team works fine as is? What do you think?

CSF

Surely though, what is most important is whether Eriksen will outscore Ramsey over the period of time he intends to keep either player for, rather than whether he has 2 Tottenham attacking players or 2 Arsenal. I'm doing fine with my 3 attacking City players.

thunderdog

Im looking at something like this for the wc

I'll see how Wilshere/Ramsey perform and if needs be will swap in for either Eriksen/Cabaye.

My main question is do I keep Terry? If I swap for Azpil I'd get another 1m for the bank but Terry is more likely to get more minutes

CSF

thunderdog wrote: »

Im looking at something like this for the wc

I'll see how Wilshere/Ramsey perform and if needs be will swap in for either Eriksen/Cabaye.

My main question is do I keep Terry? If I swap for Azpil I'd get another 1m for the bank but Terry is more likely to get more minutes

Upgrade Noone to Januzaj?

carraig2

Played wildcard and had brutal week.
Any suggestions for what I should do to recover?
Radical overhaul or ride it out for a few weeks?

CSF

carraig2 wrote: »

Played wildcard and had brutal week.
Any suggestions for what I should do to recover?
Radical overhaul or ride it out for a few weeks?

Keep going with what you think is the right decision rather than being reactive.

8-10

carraig2 wrote: »

Played wildcard and had brutal week.
Any suggestions for what I should do to recover?
Radical overhaul or ride it out for a few weeks?

Really depends on what your team looks like. Sounds obvious but I saw this earlier on another forum and it makes a lot of sense:

There are 6 essentials in your team: 1)Mert/Koscielny, 2)Coleman/Baines 3)Hazard 4)Yaya 5)Suarez 6)Aguero

This should be giving you your week in/week out points and keep you on par with the other players at the top. There is no point in trying to look for differentials against these 6, you still have 5 spots to get differential points. Take these 6 as a base and work from there.

So if you don't have these 6, then do what you can (inc Wildcard if you need to) in order to cover those 6 spots. If you already have them, or have 5 and can make a transfer for the other, then no need to wildcard, wait it out.

So you need to have a strategy around your remaining 5 starters, do you rotate keepers? Do you want to rotate 2 mids? Rotate a mid and an attacker? Have a non-playing sub to save money?

All are open to work with. Once you have the 6 essential positions filled it means not missing out on the big points most big players will get, the strategy with the rest of the team is up to you, and is actually where you'll make a move in the rankings.

This is pretty much the same advice as last year, when Mata, Michu, Fellaini, Walcott, Silva and RVP were the 6 essentials in January. People hate template teams, but everybody will have the above 6 as a backbone. Advice is: pick your battles. Don't use Navas and Oscar to compete with Yaya and Hazard each week, pick Yaya and Hazard and compete for the other points.

carraig2

8-10 wrote: »

Really depends on what your team looks like. Sounds obvious but I saw this earlier on another forum and it makes a lot of sense:

There are 6 essentials in your team: 1)Mert/Koscielny, 2)Coleman/Baines 3)Hazard 4)Yaya 5)Suarez 6)Aguero

This should be giving you your week in/week out points and keep you on par with the other players at the top. There is no point in trying to look for differentials against these 6, you still have 5 spots to get differential points. Take these 6 as a base and work from there.

So if you don't have these 6, then do what you can (inc Wildcard if you need to) in order to cover those 6 spots. If you already have them, or have 5 and can make a transfer for the other, then no need to wildcard, wait it out.

So you need to have a strategy around your remaining 5 starters, do you rotate keepers? Do you want to rotate 2 mids? Rotate a mid and an attacker? Have a non-playing sub to save money?

All are open to work with. Once you have the 6 essential positions filled it means not missing out on the big points most big players will get, the strategy with the rest of the team is up to you, and is actually where you'll make a move in the rankings.

This is pretty much the same advice as last year, when Mata, Michu, Fellaini, Walcott, Silva and RVP were the 6 essentials in January. People hate template teams, but everybody will have the above 6 as a backbone. Advice is: pick your battles. Don't use Navas and Oscar to compete with Yaya and Hazard each week, pick Yaya and Hazard and compete for the other points.

What you say makes perfect sense, ta. I only have 2 of above.

Lloris/ Davis

Kolarov..Coleman..Sagna...Parr...Whittaker

Mirallas...Eriksen..Lallana...Oscar..Livermore

Suarez...Giroud...Negredo

Can you see a fix I can do this week. Nothing in the bank

CSF

8-10 wrote: »

Really depends on what your team looks like. Sounds obvious but I saw this earlier on another forum and it makes a lot of sense:

There are 6 essentials in your team: 1)Mert/Koscielny, 2)Coleman/Baines 3)Hazard 4)Yaya 5)Suarez 6)Aguero

This should be giving you your week in/week out points and keep you on par with the other players at the top. There is no point in trying to look for differentials against these 6, you still have 5 spots to get differential points. Take these 6 as a base and work from there.

So if you don't have these 6, then do what you can (inc Wildcard if you need to) in order to cover those 6 spots. If you already have them, or have 5 and can make a transfer for the other, then no need to wildcard, wait it out.

So you need to have a strategy around your remaining 5 starters, do you rotate keepers? Do you want to rotate 2 mids? Rotate a mid and an attacker? Have a non-playing sub to save money?

All are open to work with. Once you have the 6 essential positions filled it means not missing out on the big points most big players will get, the strategy with the rest of the team is up to you, and is actually where you'll make a move in the rankings.

This is pretty much the same advice as last year, when Mata, Michu, Fellaini, Walcott, Silva and RVP were the 6 essentials in January. People hate template teams, but everybody will have the above 6 as a backbone. Advice is: pick your battles. Don't use Navas and Oscar to compete with Yaya and Hazard each week, pick Yaya and Hazard and compete for the other points.

The only one of your 6 I don't agree with as being an absolute necessity is number 2. I'm not saying Coleman and Baines aren't good players to have in your team, they certainly are, but in terms of value they wouldn't be in the same category as the other mentions (obviously Koscielny moreso than Mertesacker). There will be plenty of weeks where Coleman and Baines (probably moreso Coleman) will just get you 1 or 2 points.

CSF

carraig2 wrote: »

What you say makes perfect sense, ta. I only have 2 of above.

Lloris/ Davis

Kolarov..Coleman..Sagna...Parr...Whittaker

Mirallas...Eriksen..Lallana...Oscar..Livermore

Suarez...Giroud...Negredo

Can you see a fix I can do this week. Nothing in the bank

Get rid of Lloris for a start. You're really short on value in your team though by the looks of things, it does look difficult for you. Downgrade Mirallas to Januzaj, upgrade Oscar to Yaya or Hazard.

8-10

CSF wrote: »

The only one of your 6 I don't agree with as being an absolute necessity is number 2. I'm not saying Coleman and Baines aren't good players to have in your team, they certainly are, but in terms of value they wouldn't be in the same category as the other mentions (obviously Koscielny moreso than Mertesacker). There will be plenty of weeks where Coleman and Baines (probably moreso Coleman) will just get you 1 or 2 points.

Yep. The point with the 2 defensive options is more that you don't miss out on the points that others will have, which is why it's not simply Coleman and Mertesacker, you could also have Baines and Koscielny. Not like the attacking 4 where they are pretty much peerless, but if you have no Arsenal or Everton defenders then you will lose ground. Personally I think Mert and Coleman are so highly owned (by far the highest 2) that you need Mert + Baines or Coleman + Koscieny minimum. Baines + Kos might be a tad risky but any combination and that should be 2 other positions you don't have to worry about in terms of losing ground, you can pick your battle rotating in the other defender/keepers etc

CSF

8-10 wrote: »

Yep. The point with the 2 defensive options is more that you don't miss out on the points that others will have, which is why it's not simply Coleman and Mertesacker, you could also have Baines and Koscielny. Not like the attacking 4 where they are pretty much peerless, but if you have no Arsenal or Everton defenders then you will lose ground. Personally I think Mert and Coleman are so highly owned (by far the highest 2) that you need Mert + Baines or Coleman + Koscieny minimum. Baines + Kos might be a tad risky but any combination and that should be 2 other positions you don't have to worry about in terms of losing ground, you can pick your battle rotating in the other defender/keepers etc

I have Koscielny, no Coleman or Baines. Not entirely worried about trying to keep up with the points others get from those 2 (obviously every time Everton play I'm willing on the opposition to score but that is fine too). Outside of Koscielny, I've gone with Evans because he is dirt cheap and playing for a team that will win more games than they will lose (it is a questionable policy I'll admit but I think I'll get some joy out of it) and then 3 cheap defenders that rotate well with what I have, players from Southampton, Crystal Palace and Sunderland, 3 teams that I had high hopes for in terms of keeping me some clean sheets (I'm losing that faith in Sunderland but look we will see how it goes).

Having such a cheap defence has allowed me to have a front 7 of Ozil (he is going ASAP), Hazard, Yaya, Silva, Aguero, Suarez and Adebayor. If I went for Baines or Coleman ahead of any of my other 4 (Koscielny is someone I would never get rid of) I couldn't do that.

carraig2

CSF wrote: »

Get rid of Lloris for a start. You're really short on value in your team though by the looks of things, it does look difficult for you. Downgrade Mirallas to Januzaj, upgrade Oscar to Yaya or Hazard.

I got Lloris as the cheapest keeper with lot of clean sheets. Team value is ****e yah. Made bad transfer decisions often and lost value that way.

CSF

carraig2 wrote: »

I got Lloris as the cheapest keeper with lot of clean sheets. Team value is ****e yah. Made bad transfer decisions often and lost value that way.

Tottenham will not keep many clean sheets now, look at the style of football they're playing now. Speroni is the best value around at the moment imo, especially for someone like you who needs to save value everywhere they can.

Will the points gap between Lloris and Speroni over an 8 game period (just an arbitrary number) be anything like the gap you could get by upgrading Oscar to the best person you could afford with the 1.2(ish) improvement? I'd be surprised if it would.

carraig2

CSF wrote: »

Tottenham will not keep many clean sheets now, look at the style of football they're playing now. Speroni is the best value around at the moment imo, especially for someone like you who needs to save value everywhere they can.

Will the points gap between Lloris and Speroni over an 8 game period (just an arbitrary number) be anything like the gap you could get by upgrading Oscar to the best person you could afford with the 1.2(ish) improvement? I'd be surprised if it would.

Ta, had a look at getting rid of Coleman. Kos a whole million cheaper. That would help too

Also thinking Giroud too exspensive for his returns

[Deleted User]

Torn between goin 3 4 3 or 3 5 2. It boils down to Adebayor and mutch on the bench or Eriksen and crouch on the bench.

Rest of team is:

Mannone
Coleman Dawson (b Turner / ward / Norwich def)
yaya Hazard lallana cabaye
suarez aguero.

Thoughts?

CSF

carraig2 wrote: »

Ta, had a look at getting rid of Coleman. Kos a whole million cheaper. That would help too

Also thinking Giroud too exspensive for his returns

Agreed on all of that. The likes of Yaya, Hazard, Suarez and Aguero are players you just have to have in your team at the moment. They'll take value out of the rest of your team but it isn't value that you would be able to achieve the same points total from anyway. In my opinion, if you have those 4 players, with the other 11 all being from teams in the bottom half of the table, you'd still probably do better than having a team of the best of the rest, with none of those 4.

carraig2

Deleted User wrote: »

Torn between goin 3 4 3 or 3 5 2. It boils down to Adebayor and mutch on the bench or Eriksen and crouch on the bench.

Rest of team is:

Mannone
Coleman Dawson (b Turner / ward / Norwich def)
yaya Hazard lallana cabaye
suarez aguero.

Thoughts?

Eriksen and Crouch for me

CSF

How cheap is Crouch? If he is anything over 6 million, surely you'd be better off just having the cheapest possible striker who starts as backup (Chamakh). Crouch will barely ever score you anything significant.

G1032

My WC is currently active.
Essentials I have are: Mert (will probably sell for Kos), Coleman (will probably sell for Baines), Hazard, Aguero and Suarez

I have Silva but do I really really need Yaya? Is he that vital to have instead of Silva?
I think Aguero, Yaya and Silva might be overkill

CSF

G1032 wrote: »

My WC is currently active.
Essentials I have are: Mert (will probably sell for Kos), Coleman (will probably sell for Baines), Hazard, Aguero and Suarez

I have Silva but do I really really need Yaya? Is he that vital to have instead of Silva?
I think Aguero, Yaya and Silva might be overkill

I have Aguero, Yaya and Silva. If I had to cut one (I'm not going to) it would be Silva.

G1032

CSF wrote: »

I have Aguero, Yaya and Silva. If I had to cut one (I'm not going to) it would be Silva.

I just don't know what to do. I fear a big Silva haul if I bring in Yaya. I fear a drop off in Yaya points of I bring him in
It's Ramsey all over again but this time we're talking mega money for the player. Not as easy a decision.

zarquon

CSF wrote: »

The only one of your 6 I don't agree with as being an absolute necessity is number 2. I'm not saying Coleman and Baines aren't good players to have in your team, they certainly are, but in terms of value they wouldn't be in the same category as the other mentions (obviously Koscielny moreso than Mertesacker). There will be plenty of weeks where Coleman and Baines (probably moreso Coleman) will just get you 1 or 2 points.

I would somewhat disagree about Coleman. If you got him at 5.0 like me then he is a season keeper. Almost everyone in the top 50K has at least 1 everton defender so it would be dangerous to drop him now. I wouldn't bring coleman in at his current price though!

CSF

zarquon wrote: »

I would somewhat disagree about Coleman. If you got him at 5.0 like me then he is a season keeper. Almost everyone in the top 50K has at least 1 everton defender so it would be dangerous to drop him now. I wouldn't bring coleman in at his current price though!

Dangerous or profitable. Depending on how the rest of his season gos. My perspective comes from the fact that I don't view his recent goalscoring form as indicative of what we should come to expect of him long-term. To be fair though, the only defender I've ever really been willing to go with because of likely attacking returns has been Zabaleta.

[Deleted User]

CSF wrote: »

How cheap is Crouch? If he is anything over 6 million, surely you'd be better off just having the cheapest possible striker who starts as backup (Chamakh). Crouch will barely ever score you anything significant.

He's only 5.5, but that's a good point you make. The extra 0.7 would be useful in upgrading a defender.