Do you go to confession?

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Theres enough folk being catholic for traditional and cultural reasons. I dont think any more need to be encouraged

Why not?

Haven't gone to confession in about 38 years,it's a crazy thing to be doing really.

realies wrote: »

Haven't gone to confession in about 38 years,it's a crazy thing to be doing really.

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Oh really, "crazy"? :rolleyes:

eyescreamcone

What about the child abuse priests who "confessed" to their superiors?

The superiors claimed that they were barred by canon law from breaking the sanctity of the confessional and reporting the abusers.

Good tradition that!

eyescreamcone wrote: »

What about the child abuse priests who "confessed" to their superiors?

The superiors claimed that they were barred by canon law from breaking the sanctity of the confessional and reporting the abusers.

Good tradition that!

lol@ whatabouttery so early in the morning ...

Amazingfun wrote: »

You really got that from what I said?

You've got some imagination there, kinda twisted like.

What other interpretation is there? What is confession for? Confessing sins. Someone mentioned earlier that IRA guys used to confess and the priest couldn't do anything, cos of the rules around confession.

That's madness!

That's the problem with that ridiculous, lunatic religion - there's a way out of everything. Anyway. Sorry, I find it hard to take comments like "hey its good for the soul" without reacting harshly. The world is infinitely a worse place because of religion. So much hatred and pain has derived from what was supposed to be a positive thing.

Amazingfun wrote: »

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Oh really, "crazy"? :rolleyes:

What's that mean...

realies wrote: »

What's that mean...

You are the one who said it, why don't you answer your own question!

Amazingfun wrote: »

Why not?

Because its an awful, awful religion, with no basis on scientific fact or reason, and its propagators are evil, twisted lunatics who think some wizard in the sky (no evidence whatsoever for his existence has been shown) is going to sit him on a cloud with them if they keep telling people they'll burn in hell for their sins. Oh, sins that are easily cancelled out with a click of the fingers.

Ghost Buster

Amazingfun wrote: »

Why not?

Isn't religious belief meant to be more than 'sure its the done thing'. Im sure its more important than that. If folk who dont believe in it tick 'catholic' on the census 'just cos' we end up with the distorted societal structure we now have.

eviltimeban wrote: »

Because its an awful, awful religion, with no basis on scientific fact or reason, and its propagators are evil, twisted lunatics who think some wizard in the sky (no evidence whatsoever for his existence has been shown) is going to sit him on a cloud with them if they keep telling people they'll burn in hell for their sins. Oh, sins that are easily cancelled out with a click of the fingers.

You sound like you need to chill out a little.

Amazingfun wrote: »

You sound like you need to chill out a little.

And you sound like you need to stop telling people what to do. Oh sorry, you're a Catholic.

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Isn't religious belief meant to be more than 'sure its the done thing'. Im sure its more important than that. If folk who dont believe in it tick 'catholic' on the census 'just cos' we end up with the distorted societal structure we now have.

Why do you think it's more important than ....what, exactly?

And you are saying luke-warm Catholics are responsible for " the distorted societal structure we now (supposedly) have?

Care to explain?

Ghost Buster

Amazingfun wrote: »

You sound like you need to chill out a little.

And you sound like youre trolling or have never read a news paper. Or simply have rose tinted glasses surgically attatched

Czarcasm

eviltimeban wrote: »

What other interpretation is there? What is confession for? Confessing sins. Someone mentioned earlier that IRA guys used to confess and the priest couldn't do anything, cos of the rules around confession.

That's madness!

You're right, it is madness, which is why it only makes for a good yarn down the pub for the gullible idiots that know nothing about the Sacrament of Confession or the way it works.

That's the problem with that ridiculous, lunatic religion - there's a way out of everything. Anyway. Sorry, I find it hard to take comments like "hey its good for the soul" without reacting harshly. The world is infinitely a worse place because of religion. So much hatred and pain has derived from what was supposed to be a positive thing.

I can understand why you'd react harshly, but you really shouldn't let a small minority of twisted cnuts who used religion to further their own ends color your view of what is a positive thing for most of it's adherents.

eviltimeban wrote: »

And you sound like you need to stop telling people what to do. Oh sorry, you're a Catholic.

I didn't tell you to do anything

**I wonder if you were baptized, because that makes you a Catholic too, lol.

Amazingfun wrote: »

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Oh really, "crazy"? :rolleyes:

Amazingfun wrote: »

You are the one who said it, why don't you answer your own question![/

What's with the rolly eyes ? Or do you think your being funny ?

Thumpette

I think confession is among the creepiest most cult-like elements of tge Catholic Church (behind maybe the rosary which I just find beyond bizzare)

Last time I went I was probably around 15. Our English teacher was off sick so the chaplain priest (who taught religion) decided he'd bring us into the bright classroom one by one, sit us across the desk from him and hear our confession. It was outrageously uncomfortable being in our learning space and being forced into doing this, I'd say myself he was looking for some juicy teenage confession, I rolled out the normal 'said bad word, was fighting with sister' stuff

Does anyone actually go in and confess crimes, affairs etc?

Odd odd tradition!

Czarcasm wrote: »

You're right, it is madness, which is why it only makes for a good yarn down the pub for the gullible idiots that know nothing about the Sacrament of Confession or the way it works.

"The way it works"! Ha ha ha!! It doesn't "do" anything! Its just some guy in a frock telling some other fool "oh yeah forget about it, do some 'penance' and we'll call it quits". Gas.

Czarcasm wrote: »

I can understand why you'd react harshly, but you really shouldn't let a small minority of twisted cnuts who used religion to further their own ends color your view of what is a positive thing for most of it's adherents.

Unfortunately, whatever kind of spin you put on it, it cannot be a positive thing. There is too much pain and suffering associated with it that negates anything positive that might have be there. I for one see nothing positive in believing in a made-up god and spoiling the one life we have in the hopes that the "next life" will be better. And what's wrong with gays, or women? Why can't my unbaptised child get into the local school? Why can't Aids be prevented by the support of the use of condoms? Its the everyday belief and values that are as harmful.

Casual catholics are often harder to argue with as they've never questioned it before or come to any conclusions themselves, they've just gone along with whatever the herd is doing (a friend of mine used to call them "cattle-thicks"). Not suggesting you are casual, you could be a fire-and-brimstone born again type, but either way going down this road can only lead to pain. Oh hey! Perfect!

Amazingfun wrote: »

I didn't tell you to do anything

**I wonder if you were baptized, because that makes you a Catholic too, lol.

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Toby Take a Bow

Amazingfun wrote: »

I didn't tell you to do anything

**I wonder if you were baptized, because that makes you a Catholic too, lol.

You don't have to follow any of the rules, know the theology or, you know, believe in God? Wow, what a religion.

Legs.Eleven

Amazingfun wrote: »

I didn't tell you to do anything

**I wonder if you were baptized, because that makes you a Catholic too, lol.

Eh, as a Catholic, you should know there's a bit more to it than that. Faith, for example or belief in the teachings of the RC. Any priest will tell you that.

Ghost Buster

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Eh, as a TRADITIONAL PERSON you should know there's a bit more to it than that. Faith, for example or belief in the teachings of the RC. Any priest will tell you that.

Fyp

Amazingfun wrote: »

What's with the rolly eyes ? Or do you think your being funny ?

You say that confession is a "crazy thing to do", and you ask me if I am being funny?

good times!

Confession is an outdated practice in the RC, like a lot of there teachings it needs to change.

Czarcasm

eviltimeban wrote: »

"The way it works"! Ha ha ha!! It doesn't "do" anything! Its just some guy in a frock telling some other fool "oh yeah forget about it, do some 'penance' and we'll call it quits". Gas.

It genuinely isn't as simple as that. I mean, at first glance for a non-catholic who say landed from Mars and knew absolutely nothing about the sacrament of confession, yeah, but for a person with the capability to read up about it and understand the meaning of it to some people, I'd expect better tbh.

Unfortunately, whatever kind of spin you put on it, it cannot be a positive thing. There is too much pain and suffering associated with it that negates anything positive that might have be there. I for one see nothing positive in believing in a made-up god and spoiling the one life we have in the hopes that the "next life" will be better. And what's wrong with gays, or women? Why can't my unbaptised child get into the local school? Why can't Aids be prevented by the support of the use of condoms? Its the everyday belief and values that are as harmful.

Are we talking about confession here or catholicism or just religion in general? I could address each of those questions if I had time but quite frankly I'd say this thread is going to be locked any minute for being the usual religion bashing nonsense, when it needn't have gone like that if people were able to restrain themselves from getting hysterical.

Casual catholics are often harder to argue with as they've never questioned it before or come to any conclusions themselves, they've just gone along with whatever the herd is doing (a friend of mine used to call them "cattle-thicks"). Not suggesting you are casual, you could be a fire-and-brimstone born again type, but either way going down this road can only lead to pain. Oh hey! Perfect!

I can at least reassure you that I find the fire and brimstone "devout" Catholic types abhorrent, tbh, but the thing is, even though they're in the minority, they make the most noise, and give the rest of us a bad name, a bit like the vocal minority of atheists or people of other religious persuasions that make the most noise and give the rest of those people a bad name. It's really not as simple as you're making it out to be but at least it's good to see you're open to the opinion that not all religious people are the Catholic-on-paper types, nor the other extreme fire and brimstone type nonsense.

realies wrote: »

Confession is an outdated practice in the RC, like a lot of there teachings it needs to change.

Says you who hasn't partaken of it in 38 years :pac:

Legs.Eleven

Czarcasm wrote: »

It genuinely isn't as simple as that. I mean, at first glance for a non-catholic who say landed from Mars and knew absolutely nothing about the sacrament of confession, yeah, but for a person with the capability to read up about it and understand the meaning of it to some people, I'd expect better tbh.

I'd wager that that's what most Catholics think it is, Czarcasm. That's certainly how it was sold to us at school. "Tell the priest your sins and you'll be forgiven after you say your penance". If most Catholics believe that's what it is, then it is a bit mad.

amdublin

I just can't imagine using it for more than the made up "I fought with my sister" sh1te, as a child,

As an adult some of the stuff I did/do and feel guilt for, needs intensive counselling I'd imagine rather than a 10 minute conversation through a wooden lace panel...