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Astronauts to land on Mars

shane9689

Mars one mission
http://www.mars-one.com/

opinions anyone?

personally I love the idea, its like watching "2001" all over again but it looks abit sceptical. also id never do it myself unless there was a large colony or a possibility of return (that's right, its a one way trip)

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WoollyRedHat

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Can you imagine the delivery charges on that!!!

They'd be astronomical!

jamo2oo9

I am very interested in this but I couldn't do this when you can't return home to your family and friends. Maybe if return flights to Mars and Earth are available, I'd go for it.

_Redzer_

Such a waste of time. It's like the moon, a barren rock with nothing on it. They're just going to mars to say "well, we went to Mars, we're great, look what we can do."

Yeah, grand.

But it'd be so much better to divert all the research and funding to Europa, were there's a strong possibility of finding life.

Mars is only good for mining it of its resources so we can stop tearing our own planet apart.

UCDVet

Why not the moon?

Captain Chaos

It's hard enough getting people to Mars never mind Europa which will be next to impossible for the next 100 years.

Captain Chaos

UCDVet wrote: »

Why not the moon?

Been there and done that.

WoollyRedHat

UCDVet wrote: »

Why not the moon?

In this day and age, it would be pure lunacy.

UCDVet

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Been there and done that.

As far as I know, we've never established a colony on the Moon. The longest trip (again, as far as I know) was Apollo 17....and they spent three days on the surface. They landed on Dec 11th and left on the 14th. That's like a long weekend, not a settlement.

Rhys Essien

Id say this might never get off the ground because they have no money.As of now its just a big dream.They will need to raise €4 billion.They hope to do that by selling TV rights and have it like reality TV for when and if the people land on the planet.

You can also buy merchandise from their site here
http://www.mars-one.com/merchandise

Whether this 'Mars-one' mission will happen,its hard to know but the Russians,Chinese and the Americans have all plans to send people to Mars in the next 20/30 years.

_Redzer_

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It's hard enough getting people to Mars never mind Europa which will be next to impossible for the next 100 years.

Man doesn't need to go though. Let machines do it. There's 100s of km of ice to bore through to get to the liquid sea, so humans couldn't go anything there anyway.

_Redzer_

UCDVet wrote: »

As far as I know, we've never established a colony on the Moon. The longest trip (again, as far as I know) was Apollo 17....and they spent three days on the surface. They landed on Dec 11th and left on the 14th. That's like a long weekend, not a settlement.

The moon is a complete waste of time. There's no point spending billions doing all that. The space race was initially nothing but a dick measuring contest

Rhys Essien

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Man doesn't need to go though. Let machines do it. There's 100s of km of ice to bore through to get to the liquid sea, so humans couldn't go anything there anyway.

Why the need for drilling?.Can the ice not just be melted for water.

wotzgoingon

About time someone is coming to visit me. I've been lonely up here for years.

_Redzer_

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Why the need for drilling?.Can the ice not just be melted for water.

To drill down to the sea where the supposed life forms are. The surface is far too hostile to be habitable, and if humans wouldn't be capable of getting down to the sea (it'd be too dangerous anyway) it would be redundant to even have them on the planet. It could be a completely autonomous process carried out by machines.

Rhys Essien

_Redzer_ wrote: »

To drill down to the sea where the supposed life forms are. The surface is far too hostile to be habitable, and if humans wouldn't be capable of getting down to the sea (it'd be too dangerous anyway) it would be redundant to even have them on the planet. It could be a completely autonomous process carried out by machines.

The reality is that humanity needs to colonise other worlds.No questions about it.By all of us staying on little old Planet Earth,we are keeping all the eggs in the one basket.Humanity could be wiped out in an instant.The Dinosaurs prove that and there are a lot of ways it could happen,Comets,Asteroids,Super Volcano,Hugh Solar flares,Nuclear war,Virus etc.

UCDVet

_Redzer_ wrote: »

The moon is a complete waste of time. There's no point spending billions doing all that. The space race was initially nothing but a dick measuring contest

Fair enough - but how is Mars different?

_Redzer_

UCDVet wrote: »

Fair enough - but how is Mars different?

It's barren and lifeless. It's only good for mining.

shane9689

Rhys Essien wrote: »

The reality is that humanity needs to colonise other worlds.No questions about it.By all of us staying on little old Planet Earth,we are keeping all the eggs in the one basket.Humanity could be wiped out in an instant.The Dinosaurs prove that and there are a lot of ways it could happen,Comets,Asteroids,Super Volcano,Hugh Solar flares,Nuclear war,Virus etc.

humanity needs it, but the individual doesn't, and incase you haven't noticed, the general population dont really give a **** about humanity as a whole (i do agree with you though)

UCDVet

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It's barren and lifeless. It's only good for mining.

Isn't that true of the Moon too?
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/strong-case-companies-mine-moon-says-scientist-1431927

_Redzer_

Rhys Essien wrote: »

The reality is that humanity needs to colonise other worlds.No questions about it.By all of us staying on little old Planet Earth,we are keeping all the eggs in the one basket.Humanity could be wiped out in an instant.The Dinosaurs prove that and there are a lot of ways it could happen,Comets,Asteroids,Super Volcano,Hugh Solar flares,Nuclear war,Virus etc.

I agree, but Europa and Mars aren't good places to start. Mars is too small to hold an atmosphere so most terraforming would be wasted and Europa is too hostile for our type of species.

A suitable planet has to lie in the habital zone and have water reserves, as well as the basic building blocks for life.

_Redzer_

UCDVet wrote: »

Isn't that true of the Moon too?
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/strong-case-companies-mine-moon-says-scientist-1431927

It's ridiculous to go near the moon considering it's very important to us. It protects us from asteroids and syncs our tides as well as influences other events in an extremely delicate way. It would be extremely unwise to go tampering with it. It should be treated like Antarctica where no one country can claim it, or its resources, and for its only use to be for bettering our scientific understanding.

That's why there's little fear of mining Mars, considering it's bigger and further way to counteract any negative effects.

mickdw

UCDVet wrote: »

Why not the moon?

If they had any difficulty landing on the moon, it might give the game away.

Chazz Michael Michaels

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It's ridiculous to go near the moon considering it's very important to us. It protects us from asteroids and syncs our tides as well as influences other events in an extremely delicate way. It would be extremely unwise to go tampering with it. It should be treated like Antarctica where no one country can claim it, or its resources, and for its only use to be for bettering our scientific understanding.

That's why there's little fear of mining Mars, considering it's bigger and further way to counteract any negative effects.

there are claims on the land.

_Redzer_

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Em, we mine the SH1T out of Antarctica, and there are claims on the land.

We don't.
The 1991 environmental accord banned mining for at least 50 years, after 2041 there's talks to extend it further.

Are you thinking of the Arctic?

Chazz Michael Michaels

_Redzer_ wrote: »

We don't.
The 1991 environmental accord banned mining for at least 50 years, after 2041 there's talks to extend it further.

Are you thinking of the Arctic?

Yeah, got mixed up.

shane9689

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It's ridiculous to go near the moon considering it's very important to us. It protects us from asteroids and syncs our tides as well as influences other events in an extremely delicate way. It would be extremely unwise to go tampering with it. It should be treated like Antarctica where no one country can claim it, or its resources, and for its only use to be for bettering our scientific understanding.

That's why there's little fear of mining Mars, considering it's bigger and further way to counteract any negative effects.

could always put limitations on the extent of mining, so it doesnt exceed capacity. maybe have it so it can only be done through nations and not through private companies, although in todays world theyre pretty much the same thing

shane9689

also,
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-students-shortlisted-2025-mars-one-mission-1431918

"He said that the unique conditions of the Red Planet would make it a great place to grow old.

"Due to the lower gravity there'd be fewer health risks like bone damage, so in old age it would actually be a nice place to retire to," he said."

the duck? good place to grow old? less risk? not even going to start, pretty much only disillusion people on the mission so far...

Ben D Bus

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-students-shortlisted-2025-mars-one-mission-1431918

Danielle said that that she was under no illusions that conditions on Mars would be "horrible", but coming from Manchester she said, "I know what it's like to grow up in a hostile environment."

Sir Arthur Daley

biko wrote: »

Apparently an Irishman has been shortlisted for it.

I would have no problem short listing Hector to go.

Fratton Fred

There will an awful lot of land to be developed, bought, sold etc. how about we round up all the developers, estate agents, financial advisors and solicitors and send them all to Mars to err, get things ready for us.