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Just saw this article online
http://www.her.ie/?p=91098&preview=true

Now, some people are calling the picture a fake and a set up, which one would hope it was, rather than have that nonsense going on in public transport. I am not from Dublin and wouldn't use buses much anyway when I am in Dublin, but really... Do the buses not have cameras or the likes of security that does be on the luas to stop this carry on? Is shooting up on buses a done thing now?

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MonstaMash

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Just saw this article online
http://www.her.ie/?p=91098&preview=true

Now, some people are calling the picture a fake and a set up, which one would hope it was, rather than have that nonsense going on in public transport. I am not from Dublin and wouldn't use buses much anyway when I am in Dublin, but really... Do the buses not have cameras or the likes of security that does be on the luas to stop this carry on? Is shooting up on buses a done thing now?

It is on route 27 :mad:

Stheno

I've seen it a few times over the years.

Drivers tend to be loathe to intervene

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

So what, they'd leave someone there with a syringe in their arm, with ordinary decent people sitting witnessing the entire thing??

MonstaMash

Red line Luas to Cheeverstown can be a hoot also...

SEPT 23 1989

those syringes are very big

olly_mac

No sharps attached to the syringes... tend to think it was staged myself.

Having said that, I have observed iv drug use on buses.

eviltwin

I've seen it happen a few times, its one of the reasons I no longer sit upstairs on the bus. If its not needles its hash or fags. I don't blame the drivers, they are just there to drive a bus, not get involved in a situation that might lead to a serious incident. Guards don't seem to care. My daughter and her friends were mugged on a bus a few months ago by an addict who had been using needles, driver contacted gardai, they never came. We went down to the station to make a statement about it, they knew the guy thanks to Dublin Bus cctv but didn't take it further, more or less told her she was a fool to sit upstairs.

wexie

LexieOnRale wrote: »

So what, they'd leave someone there with a syringe in their arm, with ordinary decent people sitting witnessing the entire thing??

What would you suggest they do? Keeping in mind that they are not armed, not trained to deal with situations like that and more likely than not don't really want to be stabbed with a syringe.

MonstaMash

olly_mac wrote: »

No sharps attached to the syringes... tend to think it was staged myself.

Having said that, I have observed iv drug use on buses.

Either staged or blood filled syringes primed for alternative nefarious purposes...

bumper234

Jaysus a bendy bus!

Toto Wolfcastle

I was on a bus yesterday and someone came down from upstairs and told the driver that there was a syringe upstairs. The driver called it in and they organised a replacement bus that was waiting for us a few stops later. Could have been the bus in the picture.

[Deleted User]

It seems like it was staged, but even if it was, it highlights a massive problem that Dublin Bus has but refuses to do anything about. Countless times have I seen scumbags drinking out of cans or bottles of alcohol, lighting up joints or just normal cigarettes, and even people getting high. It's absolutely crazy that they essentially condone this kind of behaviour.

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wexie wrote: »

What would you suggest they do? Keeping in mind that they are not armed, not trained to deal with situations like that and more likely than not don't really want to be stabbed with a syringe.

I would suggest they also think of their passengers, and maybe some vulnerable passengers (like the kids that were mugged in a post above) and either call the guards straight away, or drop them off outside the nearest Garda station, like they did with the lady and the crying baby. Why are they even letting those scrotes onto the bus?

MonstaMash

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I would suggest they also think of their passengers, and maybe some vulnerable passengers (like the kids that were mugged in a post above) and either call the guards straight away, or drop them off outside the nearest Garda station, like they did with the lady and the crying baby. Why are they even letting those scrotes onto the bus?

Most of them have state issued disability passes :rolleyes: :mad:

jamesbondings

wexie wrote: »

What would you suggest they do? Keeping in mind that they are not armed, not trained to deal with situations like that and more likely than not don't really want to be stabbed with a syringe.

With recent price hikes id like to see more inspectors. But also security hop on hop off security types. Dublin Bus expect their bus drivers to enforce the rules but having used the bus for the last eight years i can say i dont envy bus drivers and the abuse they seem to get on a daily basis!

Just to put things in perspective. I have used the bus on a daily basis for the last eight years, in those eight years i have been asked to see my ticket from an inspector twice! Ive been on the luas 8-10 times and have been asked for my ticket nearly every time, a presence of any description may stop anti social behaviour on buses.

wexie

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I would suggest they also think of their passengers, and maybe some vulnerable passengers (like the kids that were mugged in a post above) and either call the guards straight away, or drop them off outside the nearest Garda station, like they did with the lady and the crying baby. Why are they even letting those scrotes onto the bus?

I don't think they get much of a choice in who they let on the bus based on looks alone (very slippery slope).

I agree that this isn't acceptable however I can't blame the busdrivers themselves (and I'm no fan of busdrivers in general).

Maybe more manpower is needed on the bus, I doubt Dublin bus have the money for something like that though.

With regards to calling the gards......well.....

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

MonstaMash wrote: »

Most of them have state issued disability passes :rolleyes: :mad:

Yes but for the safety of the driver or other passengers if they're under the influence or look under the influence they should not be allowed onto the public transport. See some zombie shuffling towards a bus with dead eyes and track marks up and down his arm he should be told to **** off with himself

olly_mac

MonstaMash wrote: »

Either staged or blood filled syringes primed for alternative nefarious purposes...

The perps of that kind of attack tend to leave the sharps in place. I know this from bitter experience...

Alf Veedersane

MonstaMash wrote: »

Either staged or blood filled syringes primed for alternative nefarious purposes...

+1

There's no way there would be that much blood in a syringe when injecting something intravenously.

[Deleted User]

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I would suggest they also think of their passengers, and maybe some vulnerable passengers (like the kids that were mugged in a post above) and either call the guards straight away, or drop them off outside the nearest Garda station, like they did with the lady and the crying baby. Why are they even letting those scrotes onto the bus?

Because they aren't police or bouncers, or paid enough to take that kind of risk with their own health and safety. Drivers are paid to drive buses, not act as bodyguards for the general public.

Quite obviously, I would have thought.

If there's an answer, it's not in making drivers responsible for everyones behaviour on board.

KTRIC

And the syringes used for intravenous drugs are far smaller than that.

MonstaMash

^ sorry for your troubles olly mac, not a nice thing to happen...

I've been jabbed twice with dirty syringes when I worked retail security, horrific waiting game for HIV results at the time, did wonders for the sex life between me & the missus.

FloatingVoter

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Yes but for the safety of the driver or other passengers if they're under the influence or look under the influence they should not be allowed onto the public transport. See some zombie shuffling towards a bus with dead eyes and track marks up and down his arm he should be told to **** off with himself

There goes the nitelink.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Candie wrote: »

Because they aren't police or bouncers, or paid enough to take that kind of risk with their own health and safety. Drivers are paid to drive buses, not act as bodyguards for the general public.

Quite obviously, I would have thought.

If there's an answer, it's not in making drivers responsible for everyones behaviour on board.

I agree they aren't bouncers but they should be responsible for their own buses. If they think someone's a danger to the rest of the passengers then they shouldn't be allowed on, especially when they're not paying a fare. This is what's wrong with the country, just find it hard to believe junkies can come onto a bus, shoot up in front of people and not care as they know nobody can stop them

olly_mac

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

+1

There's no way there would be that much blood in a syringe when injecting something intravenously.

You would be surprised at how just a little blood can seem an awful lot when it gets splashed about

wexie

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I agree they aren't bouncers but they should be responsible for their own buses. If they think someone's a danger to the rest of the passengers then they shouldn't be allowed on, especially when they're not paying a fare. This is what's wrong with the country, just find it hard to believe junkies can come onto a bus, shoot up in front of people and not care as they know nobody can stop them

The problem with that is, that if someone's a danger to the other passengers, they're also a danger to the busdriver.

If YOU saw this happening on a bus, would you be happy to confront said 'scrote' and make them get off the bus?

Alf Veedersane

olly_mac wrote: »

You would be surprised at how just a little blood can seem an awful lot when it gets splashed about

I doubt it. That picture shows a relative bloodbath.

Alf Veedersane

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I agree they aren't bouncers but they should be responsible for their own buses.

Why?

They're not getting paid for it and I'm pretty sure most people would volunteer to be a pin cushion for some junkie's syringe so as someone they don't know doesn't have to be.

[Deleted User]

Dublin Bus should work with the Gardaí and have plain clothes or unfiormed Gardaí board routes that are notorious for this kind of behaviour.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

Dublin Bus should work with the Gardaí and have plain clothes or unfiormed Gardaí board routes that are notorious for this kind of behaviour.

Best idea yet. Like the US Air Marshalls. Ride incognito and make the anti-social behaviour too risky.