gimmick wrote: » Meant to add above, was at a wedding in the highly over rated Castlemartyr resort at the weekend and a pint was €5.70. The wife was on vodka & coke and that was €7.95. Criminal.Myself and the buddies have said that this year there will be a lot more visiting done as town is so expensive between taxis and booze.
Loire wrote: » I was in Dublin over Xmas. I bought a Guinness in the Shelbourne Hotel and it was SIX EURO!
ofcork wrote: » It seems like as a lot of places get quieter they have increased the price,i remember going to the bodega a few months ago and the bottle of coors light was up to 5 euro and 5 cent which as the poster above said is the most awkward price re change etc.
the beer revolu wrote: » For some reason the pub industry tends to react to falling sales by raising prices - contrary to pretty much any other sales industry.
the beer revolu wrote: » For some reason the pub industry tends to react to falling sales by raising prices
the beer revolu wrote: » To be fair, anyone buying long necks in a pub is asking to be ripped off as over the years, it has become common place to charge way more per mil for the same beer in a longneck than on draught. Why do they get away with this? Because people keep buying them !
askU wrote: » Is the cost of running a pub going up?
Ludo wrote: » And you are surprised by that? It is the Shelbourne after all.
clerk wrote: » Absolutely no way they are. Way down for a City centre pub if it is being run properly. Rates are flat. Rents are way down. Property prices are way down. Wages are down. Taxes are up. If they're locked into a lease any pub owner worth his salt could negotiate a rent decrease in this economy. General running costs are down and l mean deflation over the last 4 Years. Any pub owner worth his salt could easily reduce costs in this economy rather than just loading the issue onto the consumer. It's just pure greed, closely followed by sheer stupidity. A bit like the property bubble.
Unclebumble wrote: » Not correct! Many landlords still won't or can't reduce their rents and there's nothing you can do about it.
clerk wrote: » wow - you've blown my argument right out there with that brilliant observation, double ballered all the way kid.
Unclebumble wrote: » So if a landlord won't reduce their rent what is the tenant meant to do then?
Unclebumble wrote: » Also what does "ballered" mean?
clerk wrote: » If you ask anybody to take a pay increase, supplier etc. they generally say no. It's called running a business, you negotiate as many businesses have.
clerk wrote: » If you ask anybody to take a pay increase, supplier etc. they generally say no. It's called running a business, you negotiate as many businesses have. There are legal obligations of course but there already have been legal cases taken and the landlord has lost on the basis that the request is reasonable. Or you could play hardball and tell him the business will close if costs aren't cut. If the business goes into liquidation and the Company is Limited the landlord will get fcuk all and will be left with an empty shell which he/she will have to rent out with probably a 50% decrease in Cork City. Generally running costs, stationary, cleaning are all down. Just tell them to take 10% less and if they're not happy get a new supplier. Tell the staff to take a 10% decrease if wages aren't down as most businesses have done already. Get a proper lobby going and tell the drink suppliers the industry is going down the drain and they need to drop prices. The hotel industry successfully negotiated a 9% VAT rate. Just stop passing every problem lazily onto the consumer.
Faith wrote: » I don't get why everyone thinks the arrival of Wetherspoons will herald cheaper drinks everywhere. Tesco/Dunnes/Supervalue/Superquinn etc didn't become discount retailers when Aldi and Lidl arrived. Sure, pubs might have certain promotions where they match the prices of Wetherspoons, but I doubt there will be a significant reduction in prices because of a couple of cheaper pubs.
Cape Clear wrote: » 99.9% of publicans are greedy and think in terms of how high they can charge and still get away with it!
Unclebumble wrote: » Sounds nice - meanwhile in the real world... Taking legal action against a landlord to reduce rent is costly and time consuming. Not nearly as easy as you say. Neither is a favorable result. Unfortunately stationary is not a major cost in the pub business - alcohol is, and the major suppliers haven't reduced their prices. The opposite, they have increased their prices. Again, you can only ask the staff to reduce their wages. Many can't afford a decrease and you have very few options open to you if they refuse. Whilst the reduction in vat is welcome that was granted by the government nit from a commercial business like Heineken, Diageo etc. Stop lazily blaming the price of a pint on "greedy publicans" - there are other factors involved. Lastly, there are publicans who are greedy, there a publicans who operate their pubs poorly and there are publicans going out of business. This is normal in the commercial world - there are plenty of other industries that suffer the same problems. What a publican charges is a commercial decision, one which will either make his business a success or a failure. If you object to that price, that is entirely you right, moaning because it's too much is entirely your right. I just wanted to add some balance and fairness to the discussion.
