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Americanized Anglasized Irish Names

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The Irish surname has gone through a good few changes down the centuries with the British changing our Irish names to something that they could pronounce but then when we emigrated to America during the famine it changed again in pronunciation if not in spelling.

So we have names like Moran being pronounced more-an or Doherty being pronounced Dokerty or Gallagher as Gallager

but I am still confused as to one name, the name Shaughnessy!
what is the socially acceptable current Irish way to pronounce it, is it shawnessy or shocknessy?

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lau1247

ruthloss wrote: »

now they call her 'Sive'., as in the thing you shake flour though!

You mean a sift?

Chattastrophe!

lau1247 wrote: »

You mean a sift?

You mean a sieve?

endacl

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

You mean a sieve?

You mean a yokimibob?

lau1247

MonaPizza wrote: »

Put a man on the Moon and they can't get O'Mahoney right...

O' Mah-HOE-Nee

Fcuks sake

I have to say i have yet to come across any o'mahoney, i have come across many o'mahony

lau1247

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

You mean a sieve?

Both equally valid but in endacl's context, i think sift was the word.

*i'll get my coat*

Duck Soup

I grew in England and lived near a family named Keogh, pronounced Kee-Oh. Got a bit confused when I came to Ireland and everyone seemed to pronouncing the name Kyo. Likewise I got used to pronouncing the name Costello, Cos-TELL-oh, only to come over here to listen to people pronouncing it more like Cuh-still-oh. Oh the sufferings of being a plastic paddy...

lau1247

endacl wrote: »

You mean a yokimibob?

Google work fast, yokimibob is already pointing to this thread, kudos

Chattastrophe!

lau1247 wrote: »

Both equally valid but in endacl's context, i think sift was the word.

*i'll get my coat*

Sift is the verb. You sift flour using a sieve.

And I think Sive is more likely to be mispronounced as "sieve" than "sift".

Annasopra

MonaPizza wrote: »

Put a man on the Moon and they can't get O'Mahoney right...

O' Mah-HOE-Nee

Fcuks sake

I would have said O'Ma honey

Annasopra

Applause wrote: »

It absolutely grinds my gears when I see people with their name spelt "Neeve"or "Keeva", is there any need like?

When you go abroad yes

Choochtown

"Naughton" is another one. Pronounced "knock ton" in Ireland but "Nor ton" elsewhere.

2 other names which cause confusion abroad (and it's not hard to see why) are Tadhg and Donnchadh.

Annasopra

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

Wait, how else would you pronounce Moran?

More-un

Annasopra

lau1247 wrote: »

You mean a sift?

Sieive

Annasopra

Duck Soup wrote: »

I grew in England and lived near a family named Keogh, pronounced Kee-Oh. Got a bit confused when I came to Ireland and everyone seemed to pronouncing the name Kyo. Likewise I got used to pronouncing the name Costello, Cos-TELL-oh, only to come over here to listen to people pronouncing it more like Cuh-still-oh. Oh the sufferings of being a plastic paddy...

When my English Aunt visited Ireland it was funny hearing that she had passed through At-Henry and Mull-ing-er

brandon_flowers

I once met a man on a job called Porick Murray. I thought it might be some sort of Polish or Slavic name but no, it was his way of spelling Padraig/Padraic.

I never worked with him again.

Annasopra

This threads reminds me of these

www.dailyedge.ie/irish-name-problems-891769-May2013/

www.broadsheet.ie/2013/07/25/when-padraig-orders-in-starbucks/

lau1247

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

Sift is the verb. You sift flour using a sieve.

And I think Sive is more likely to be mispronounced as "sieve" than "sift".

After making a deeper internal investigation, you are right

, my sincere apology

Duck Soup

And while I remember, honorable mention to Jan Leeming, one of the first female BBC newsreaders, talking on a news bulletin many years ago about somewhere in Ireland called Drog-heed-ah. I still can't find it on the map.

dxhound2005

thee glitz wrote: »

My mother is a Cahill. I can't begin to describe how horrible it is to hear that Everton lad being called K-hill.

Would you like to explain to the tatooed one with a penchant for celebrating jailbirds when he scores that he does not know how to say his own name correctly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-524734/Fury-Everton-footballer-Tim-Cahills-pitch-gesture-solidarity-thug-brother-left-man-blinded.html

I find it amazing that some people think they know how to pronounce someone's name better than the actual owner of the name. Just accept that there are thousands of words with more than one pronunciation, including some first names and some family names.

ruthloss

lau1247 wrote: »

You mean a sift?

Ah feck off., you all knew what I meant.:o

dirkmeister

WWE wrestler John Cena has a brother called Seán.

Technically they have the same name.

Khannie

Fluorescence wrote: »

Pfffffft, my name is Aoife. IME, American's brains explode upon seeing it. If I say it to them or write it down as "Ee-fah" I just end up being called Eva.

It's not the same

We have a baby on the way and seriously considered Aoife if it's a girl, but that was one of the things that went against it.

I really dislike hearing Irish names mispronounced, but I'm sure we do it to foreigners here all the time too. I make a point of asking proper pronunciation for names I'm not 100% on.

SarahBM

Watching the film Dragon Heart (starring Denis Quaid) years ago I heard what I thought was a beautiful name, pronounced "Eehs-linn".

when the credits came up I wanted to see how it was spelt. Turns out it was just Aisling. LOL Maybe thats just the Welsh/Anglo-Saxon way of saying it. If I did want to name my daughter "Eehs-linn" though, how would you spell it ?!?!? mmm

Oh and I was also given a birthday card once with my name spelt Saura. I nearly had to be carried away!

pocketse

I have located the correct pronunciation of the name Shaughnessy about 20 seconds in here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZBT3Yd9A0Y

endacl

dirkmeister wrote: »

WWE wrestler John Cena has a brother called Seán.

Technically they have the same name.

No they don't. There's no English version of Seán. John is Eoin.

Common mistake. Interestingly, and off topic, this mistake is a factoid. Another factoid is the common misunderstanding of the term 'factoid'.

Meauldsegosha

dirkmeister wrote: »

WWE wrestler John Cena has a brother called Seán.

Technically they have the same name.

I know sisters called Sinead and Jennifer. Although it's not a direct translation it is commonly used.

It caused some problems for them in school.

seamus

antodeco wrote: »

Ironically, I dont know a single irish person named Shaughnessy

I do! I used to work with a girl with that surname. But, eh, she was American. Actually she was Irish as bedamned, but her accent let her down. "Shocknessy" was the pronunciation.

Stojkovic

Met an American woman who said she loved listened to Sean Finn telling stories about Ireland. Hadnt a clue who she was talking about. I mentioned Seamus Heaney et al but no she was convinced his name was Sean Finn.

Finally my Scouse friend copped it......she meant Sinn Fein (Gerry Adams).

SpaceTime

Let's not forget our dear leader who was introduced on a report on a news channel as Irish President Edna Kennedy.

Freddie Dodge

Meauldsegosha wrote: »

I know sisters called Sinead and Jennifer. Although it's not a direct translation it is commonly used.

It caused some problems for them in school.

Sinead sorta = Janet as far as I knew. That translating of names from one language to another is all bull anyway....... whats the irish for Miroslav ?