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Litter - Lack of bins?

Smithwicks Man

Litter is a ridiculous issue to be discussing in 2013 but it's still a huge problem, especially in urban areas.

Now anybody who blatantly litters when it'd nearly be easier to throw the rubbish in the bin up the street is quite simply an idiot, but I can't help but feel that a lack of bins is also an issue.

Countless times I've drank a bottle of water or had some form of rubbish with me that I'd like to throw in a bin only there is none anywhere nearby. This happens regularly out the country which is understandable but when I find it happening me in Dublin City I think it's just ridiculous.

Why is it that there are sections of pavement with a bin every 5 feet yet there's other areas with no bins for exceptionally long stretches? It's ridiculous.

I see so many people litter out of laziness, but then you see others who litter because, as they say, "sure there's no bin anywhere near here".

Would more bins solve this?

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Hootanany

DannieHasAFanny wrote: »

IIRC it costs over €1000 a year to maintain a single bin on the street , so adding a modest 10 bins to a town will set you back upwards of 10 grand a year. Its just not affordable.

I tried looking for the source of that amount but I can't find it but a quick math thing would be 1 bin, emptied 3 times a week would probably end up with around 2 wheelie bins full. That at Donegal rates would be just under 30 quid a week per bin in landfill charges or whatever. So i'm sure there is some deal for lower costs but even at that you could have 52weeks*€20 fees and thats €1040 a year. If anyone has better sources on costs or better knowledge let me know and i'll adjust

So how much does it cost per ton to clear up the litter?

UCDVet

The problem isn't about trash or a lack of bins. It's about an abundance of *trashy people*. We can sugarcoat it all we want, but unlike so many other social problems....there isn't any justification.

average hero

It is ignorance mixed with complacency.

I regularly see people littering when there is a bin literally metres away.

Why do they litter? It's the complacency of 'well, sure there is someone paid to clean it up' combined with a 'I don't give a damn attitude'.

Horrible attitude really.

Gertrude2

SHOVELLER wrote: »

In certain parts of the Liberties it looks like a litter bomb has gone off. With the council probably off for Christmas the place is an utter mess. Add in the wind and its a perfect storm of filth.

Where once there would be a few black bin liners left on the road when these are not collected inevitably more are added.

What is astonishing is when you see the bags split open and bottles and clothes spill out.

How does anybody not know about bring banks? Who are these people?

We had bins in the Liberties in the past and the Corpo removed them because of the amount of domestic rubbish being dumped in and around them. Council put one on a corner near me in the last couple of years and had to remove it again for the same reason.

Chinasea

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Litter is a ridiculous issue to be discussing in 2013 but it's still a huge problem, especially in urban areas.

Countless times I've drank a bottle of water or had some form of rubbish with me that I'd like to throw in a bin only there is none anywhere nearby.

http://voiceireland.org/waste/urge-minister-hogan-to-adopt-a-depositrefund-system-for-bottles-and-cans/

Would more bins solve this?

Having rang, written, campaigned, ranted for years to the local CoCo in Dun Laoghaire about this very problem, I have just come to accept that our citizens are apathetic international dirt bags, coupled with the laissez faire attitude of the CoCo’s certainly does not help.

Of course you realise that many of our CoCo’s are stifled by their total and utter mismanagement and their lazy heavily unionised front-line workers who have a total stranglehold of what they will and moreso won’t do.

Add to this the fact that as a nation unless we are made or forced to try and act in a civilised sustainable manor, many of our citizens simply just trash the place.

Your local CoCo are now hiding behind the age old resourcing issue excuse claiming that that is why there is a distinct lack of public bins. This problem for those of you that were awake was exactly the same in the boom times.
Take a trip around many of the not so well off European cities and you will find bins as expected on every street corner. Parts of Dublin as mentioned are DISGUSTING.

Now for possible solutions.

Proaction.
Keep on at your local CoCo. I have managed to get at least 2 bins in my local vicinity.
Pick up the litter outside your front door.
Ask your CoCo to investigate people who have no waste collection from their homes and insist they provide evidence as to how they are disposing of their litter.
EVERYBODY should be responsible.
No waivers. Again, this will encourage less waste and cultivate personal responsibility.
Write to the sleeping Minister for the Environment to try and address this national scourge.

http://voiceireland.org/waste/urge-minister-hogan-to-adopt-a-depositrefund-system-for-bottles-and-cans/

SHOVELLER

Should have my post clearer. The rubbish is just left on the streets on a daily basis. Cant blame the council for removing the bins really.

Judging by the amount of rubbish it looks like some would drive around looking for somewhere to dump these bags. So they are wasting time and money dumping. The mind boggles.

If caught they should be made clean the streets for weeks on end.

PhlegmyMoses

It's improved massively since I was a kid. Bit more to go but it was awful when I was younger.

Conmaicne Mara

All litter bins were removed from our village. This situation came about through domestic tourists stuffing often multiple carrier bags of rubbish into them at a time during Summer. This would be done in full public view, without any shame at all. Well done the Irish tourist.

Teyla Emmagan

In good news, in Dublin at least - don't know about the rest of the country, each household will soon be required to show evidence of being signed up to a refuse provider. This is both to stop dumping, and stop lazy b&stards filling up public bins with their rubbish. You will also be required to prove you are actually using the service.

There's a new by-law about it somewhere, which I couldn't be arsed finding right now.

Hopefully this will mean we can actually have the odd public bin available on our streets, which isn't either set on fire for the laugh by knackers, or filled instantly by people too mean to dispose of their rubbish in any other way.

Archeron

Anybody remember Larry Litter from Butlins? He taught me a lesson I wont forget and that was about 30 years ago. An army of Larrys would sort it out, nobody wants a magnum wrapper stapled to their face.

thecatspjs

Make poor people pick it up for money.

Make rich people pick it up for ipods or handbags or whatever.