when is a woman too fit?

Malcolm. wrote: »

Not trying to be lads / ladyboys.

It's nothing to do with their build. Some women can carry a bit of extra weight very well, and are in fact the better for it, some can't.

So when I was training in the free weights area I was trying to be a lad?

Good thing I wore pink gloves so they knew I was feminine. Cause of course I didn't look like a girl surrounded by men twice or three times my size.

Wibbs

Malcolm. wrote: »

Not trying to be lads / ladyboys, but whatever floats your boat.

Hang on, have we gone back to the 1950's here?

It's nothing to do with their build. Some women can carry a bit of extra weight very well, and are in fact the better for it, some can't.

For my personal taste, few enough can. Then again personal tastes differ and if others like bigger women then game ball. Goes the other way too. I've known a few women who say they prefer a "cuddly" man, over a lean one, never mind a guy with any muscles. Then again 9 times outa 10 they're usually cuddly themselves. Maybe that's a general thing, that people tend to go for similar body shapes to themselves? I'm thin so I prefer thin women sorta thing.

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

What do you mean by 'not trying to be lads'? Is weight training a lads only thing?

No I don't mean weight training. It's nothing to do with that. Women can be feminine and go to the gym. I prefer ladies, not ladettes, that's all I'm saying.

Duck's hoop

Czarcasm wrote: »

Usual condescending massive multi quote reply -

It says to me that they're just not comfortable with a woman who is motivated to keep in shape.

Judging by your next super judgmental quote about your brother, you're not very motivated about looking after yourself either! And that's grand.

But no need to slate someone else because they look like they do look after themselves.

Wibbs wrote: »

Hang on, have we gone back to the 1950's here?

For my personal taste, few enough can. Then again personal tastes differ and if others like bigger women then game ball. Goes the other way too. I've known a few women who say they prefer a "cuddly" man, over a lean one, never mind a guy with any muscles. Then again 9 times outa 10 they're usually cuddly themselves. Maybe that's a general thing, that people tend to go for similar body shapes to themselves? I'm thin so I prefer thin women sorta thing.

Nothing to do with their weight or build whatsoever. As I said if women trying to be lads / ladyboys floats your boat, work away.

Stench Blossoms

Tell us what a girl does that means shes 'trying to be a lad'.

Malcolm. wrote: »

Nothing to do with their weight or build whatsoever. As I said if women trying to be lads / ladyboys floats your boat, work away.

So its the laddish personality you don't like?
You realise that has nothing to do with their fitness regime?

Tasden wrote: »

So its the laddish personality you don't like?
You realise that has nothing to do with their fitness regime?

Yes, do you ?

Malcolm. wrote: »

Yes, do you ?

So why are you giving out about laddish behaviour on a thread about fitness?

Tasden wrote: »

So why are you giving out about laddish behaviour on a thread about fitness?

I'm not the one giving out , there are lots of opinions here, and fit does not necessarily mean to everyone how much you can bench press or howfast you can run 100m. As I keep saying, whatever floats you boat. Knock yourself out.

Malcolm. wrote: »

I'm not the one giving out , there are lots of opinions here, and fit does not necessarily mean to everyone how much you can bench press or howfast you can run 100m. As I keep saying, whatever floats you boat. Knock yourself out.

Fair enough I suppose

Czarcasm

Geez lads this thread got personal woeful quick, whatever about the calories SB is burning, her ears must positively be on fire!

IMO SB looks fantastic, and she looks feminine, toned, blah de blah, but look at some of the pictures posted earlier in the thread - abs like a box of eggs, thigh muscles that wouldn't look out of place on Brian O' Driscoll, back and shoulder muscles like barnacles, and small breasts.

In achieving figures like these, there is indeed a trade-off between femininity (softness), and a sculpted figure (hardness). Some women can achieve figures like these and still retain their femininity, but then we could argue all night about people's different definitions and examples of what they consider valid physically feminine characteristics.

Hard abs and artificial breast implants seems like a bit of a contradiction to me personally.

Czarcasm

Duck's hoop wrote: »

It says to me that they're just not comfortable with a woman who is motivated to keep in shape.

Judging by your next super judgmental quote about your brother, you're not very motivated about looking after yourself either! And that's grand.

But no need to slate someone else because they look like they do look after themselves.

Utter nonsense and taking things people say far too personally, but, well, you're entitled to your ill informed opinion, and that's grand too.

cantdecide

Forgive my ignorance but as I'm not very knowledgeable of the world of fitness but is there any practical reason or any competitive reason or sport where getting body fat to an extreme minimum or is it often/ mainly/ always about aesthetics only?? Seeing the sacrifices that extremely lean/ trim women have to make is very eye opening. It seems that building up and embracing the curves is such a completely different proposition to trimming down.

December2012

cantdecide wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance but as I'm not very knowledgeable of the world of fitness but is there any practical reason or any competitive reason or sport where getting body fat to an extreme minimum or is it often/ mainly/ always about aesthetics only?? Seeing the sacrifices that extremely lean/ trim women have to make is very eye opening. It seems that building up and embracing the curves is such a completely different proposition to trimming down.

I guess we all do it differently

I'm no expert on fitness but I'm a woman who lifts weights as my exercise.

I do it for these reasons:-
it makes my joints feel good.
It helps my posture
It relieves the tension in my muscles
I get tense / restricted in my movement by my kids - picking them up, carrying them around, pushing buggy, wrestling costs into them etc. lifting weights corrects these issues for me.
I sleep better
My mind is concentrating on something else so I get some "me" headspace.
When I had a job it helped me concentrate in work.
It's helps my confidence to be strong and feel better.
It's important for women's bones.
Period pain lessens.
I enjoy it.
I look better and I think it's important for me to do it for me and be a role model for the females in my life.

If I only wanted to slim down I could crash diet, but I know that's not healthy.

Those are my reasons.

Stench blossom you look great.

DebDynamite

Malcolm. wrote: »

Not trying to be lads / ladyboys, but whatever floats your boat.

It's nothing to do with their build. Some women can carry a bit of extra weight very well, and are in fact the better for it, some can't.

December 2013 above me beat me to listing the health benefits of lifting weights.

Now, can you explain what you mean by the bolded part above? What are the health benefits for women who carry "a bit of extra weight"?

DebDynamite wrote: »

December 2013 above me beat me to listing the health benefits of lifting weights.

Now, can you explain what you mean by the bolded part above? What are the health benefits for women who carry "a bit of extra weight"?

I think he means he finds excess weight attractive, (hopefully) rather than suggesting there could be health benefits.

DebDynamite wrote: »

What are the health benefits for women who carry "a bit of extra weight"?

They get shagged.

liliq wrote: »

I think he means he finds excess weight attractive, (hopefully) rather than suggesting there could be health benefits.

a bit is not "excessive", nor does it have any negative health implications.

I don't like fat women, but we don't all like rattling a bag of skin and bones.

Malcolm. wrote: »

They get shagged.

So the picture on the left is meant to be someone with extra weight?!
That just illustrates what is considered 'normal' by some people is unhealthily underweight.

Malcolm. wrote: »

a bit is not "excessive", nor does it have any negative health implications.

I don't like fat women, but we don't all like rattling a bag of skin and bones.

"Extra weight"= excess. It's fairly self explanatory, no?
How can extra weight not have negative health implications? Any extra weight carries extra risk for osteoporosis, a range of heart disease, cancers, type 2 diabetes...

ETA; that is coming from me as someone who is overweight so I'm not preaching. These are simple facts.

liliq wrote: »

"Extra weight"= excess. It's fairly self explanatory, no?
How can extra weight not have negative health implications? Any extra weight carries extra risk for osteoporosis, a range of heart disease, cancers, type 2 diabetes...

ETA; that is coming from me as someone who is overweight so I'm not preaching. These are simple facts.

You need to look up the word excessive

December2012

Malcolm. wrote: »

a bit is not "excessive", nor does it have any negative health implications.

I don't like fat women, but we don't all like rattling a bag of skin and bones.

Why is it that it's acceptable to refer to women in a derogatory sense as "skin and bones"?

If a woman actually looks skin and bones she is seriously unhealthy and sick. I'm talking eating disorder / chemo treatment unhealthy - as in bad health. It is not a proper way to describe most women at all, irrespective of their fitness level.

Malcolm. wrote: »

You need to look up the word excessive

I wasn't the one who used the word excessive.

liliq wrote: »

I wasn't the one who used the word excessive.

Then take it up with them

December2012 wrote: »

Why is it that it's acceptable to refer to women in a derogatory sense as "skin and bones"?

If a woman actually looks skin and bones she is seriously unhealthy and sick. I'm talking eating disorder / chemo treatment unhealthy - as in bad health. It is not a proper way to describe most women at all, irrespective of their fitness level.

Some men are skin and bones, some men are fat, some men are neither, you can ride your high horse somewhere else.

Czarcasm

Malcolm. wrote: »

They get shagged.

Malcolm I don't know where you got that image, but the woman in the picture on the left? If you look at it closely, you'll see it's badly photoshopped to shave a couple of inches off her waist. The other picture is also a gross exaggeration though.