TheNog wrote: » On attestation a probationer receives €27,100 + €4,000 rent allowance + unsocial allowances + you will most probably pick up some OT = approx 35k. All of the figures above are before tax of course. You can find the salary onhttp://gra.cc/payscales.shtml.
Scouser wrote: » the GRA payscales are incorrect/have not been updated new Gardai are on 20% less than what was previously agreed the starting salary for this round of recruits will be just over 23K and we are unsure if rent allowance has survived the cutbacks etc
TheNog wrote: » Is it confirmed in regards to the 20% reduced pay? I know that's what happened recruiting 1,000 nurses with only about 40 people applying. There was talk about new Gardai on less pay but all I heard is talk. The same with rent allowance. Has anyone confirmed with HR if these cuts are in place? I wouldn't be relying on hearsay tbh. It was reported in the media we will be receiving patrol cars before the end of this year but that is not happening. There was also discussion of accelerating the training phases in Trmplemore but that isn't being talked about either.
The COPS Notes for Applicants wrote: The pay of all public servants is determined by the Minister of Public Expenditure and Reform in consultation with relevant parties. In addition, the Haddington Road Agreement provides for a review of the Garda Síochána including the „remuneration and conditions of service of An Garda Síochána’. The rates of pay and allowances are therefore indicative and are therefore subject to change. Garda Trainees will receive an allowance of €184 per week for the 32 weeks leading to attestation. On appointment to the Service, a Probationer Garda will be paid €23,171 rising by increments to a maximum of €45,793 per annum after 19 years (October, 2013 rates). Members of the Service may also qualify for other allowances.
Hooch wrote: » New recruits are on 20% less but rejoin the normal Garda Pay scale after two years. The GRA pay scale in pink is accurate for presently serving members. Add two years onto that for new recruits. Rent allowance is gone for new members as per the review this year. The GRA are fighting to have it included into core pay. As already mentioned by thenog it is core pay and shouldn't be treated as an allowance. As of now rent allowance is gone however I would expect that next year, if and when it is taken into core pay, new recruits pay will rise alongside those already serving.
Scouser wrote: » the pay situation is borderline criminal!
Zadie10 wrote: » Its shocking!!! It's the only job I've wanted to do for years, but with my mortgage I now dont know if I could afford to. And considering that new recruits will most likely be sent to Dublin, you have to consider the cost of rent there. Its also sickening that applicants are expected to jump through so many hoops for that salary!
Scouser wrote: » there are so many hoops because their are so many applicants simple as
carzony wrote: » I wonder how many applicants have been put off by the new pay..
Scouser wrote: » be interesting to see!! not many i would imagine i would love to know how many applications have been sumbitted so far
carzony wrote: » I say the opposite. I'd say a good few have been put off. I'v certaintly been put off for the next few years anyway.
Scouser wrote: » so your not applying?
Zadie10 wrote: » Yeah its confirmed, also the shorter training is confirmed as 32 weeks in Templemore. There is no mention of rent allowance in the handbook either so think thats still undecided.
TheNog wrote: » Got chatting to one of my GRA reps. Rent allowance is gone.
TheNog wrote: » Got chatting to one of my GRA reps. Rent allowance is gone. He thought new members are to be on 10% reduced pay but looks like he is wrong on that one. Also pension for new members is to be calculated over their entire service pay rather than the current situation of being calculated over the last 2-3 yrs of service (I'm not entirely sure how many yrs but its close enough). This will effect the lump sum paid on retirement for new members. Bit of a joke I think. Too many cons and not enough pros tbh
HighburyLad wrote: » Holy crap! no rent allowance?! Dublin is apparently where serious numbers are needed, if that is true, how are you to afford rent or accommodation in Dublin, all your wages goes on rent alone lol, this is when people are forced into taking bribes from criminals just to survive, not saying that anyone will but this is when temptation can take over, just to cover the necessity of living, the London met has had problems apparently like this before because of the extortionate living expenses and lack of pay, again just surmising
msg11 wrote: » That's if criminals want to give out bribes. The new pay is a bit ridiculous then again back when I started in Tesco the pay was low now its one of the best paying employers. Think in the long term folks, the price of rent in Dublin is not sustainable. Landlords are getting away with it because the banks won't give out mortgages. Something is going to give either the banks or the landlords and considering the banks fund the landlords, all the pressure for money on the tenant. The landlords going to have to reduce the rates or they'll have an empty house.
Pappa Charlie wrote: » The pay is ****e but get the foot in the door and in the job, you will then be in the Gra and part of the union. I would bet my life that as the economy grows the government will bring pay up to current levels and even those levels will rise also. Anyone pulling back over pay is a fool, if it what you want go do it, the pay will sort its self out!
Pappa Charlie wrote: » Anyone pulling back over pay is a fool
Santa Cruz wrote: » The G.R.A. is not a union and have no right to strike. The new conditions are here to stay. If you are waiting for the economy to recover enough to bring Garda Pay back to what it was you will be waiting a while. People will have to get serious about this desire to be a Garda and examine the practicalities. Look at the pay scales, cost of accommodation, transport etc. and see what you get in the wage packet each week. A lot of the applicants will be fairly disillusioned very soon.
Pappa Charlie wrote: » They are just as powerful when it comes down to it and it was the gardai and in particular the AGSI who walked out of Croke park 2 when other groups broke rank and got weak in the face of government bullying. If it's all about the money for you then it's probally not the job for you anyway. The same variables apply to every job and this isn't the first recession I've seen!
Pappa Charlie wrote: » I would bet my life that as the economy grows the government will bring pay up to current levels and even those levels will rise also. Anyone pulling back over pay is a fool, if it what you want go do it, the pay will sort its self out!
lukesmom wrote: » Hey I applied but I'm bowing out due to the awful pay and I take offence to the fact of you calling me a fool. I'm not a fool, I'm being realistic. There is no point in me up scuttling myself away from my husband and 3 children for that salary. Not to mention the lack of rent allowance, it just wouldn't make sense for me to.
Santa Cruz wrote: » Croke Park 2 isn't putting any money in the Gardaí's pockets. They are actually working some days for nothing. Don't be codding yourself thinking that the G.R.A. will lead anyone out on strike for better pay. That day is well and truly gone. The rates of pay for Gardaí are gone back to 1996 levels while like everyone lese they are being hit with property taxes, USC, water rates etc. It was the Northern situation that forced the various Governments and their fear of the I.R.A. campaign really spreading South to pay the Gardaí well through basic pay and overtime. Without that they would still be back in the 1960s
