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Is Barbie The Devil

astonaidan

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/dec/06/why-wont-buy-barbie-daughter-christmas

Just want a womans perspective if this is the common thought on Barbie, was researching what to get my niece for Christmas and came upon this site.

Like my sisters all played with Barbies and well hasnt seemed to have a negative impact on them

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bumper234

Amazing how no one ever gives out about action man with his abs, muscles etc. Does he not represent the male version of barbie?

Legs.Eleven

bumper234 wrote: »

Amazing how no one ever gives out about action man with his abs, muscles etc. Does he not represent the male version of barbie?

You're free to complain if you like.

bumper234

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

You're free to complain if you like.

That's just it....men don't complain we just laugh it off.

rozeboosje

Klaus Barbie? Yes. Yes he was.

Cedrus

Feral Cheryl for the win.

Legs.Eleven

bumper234 wrote: »

That's just it....men don't complain we just laugh it off.

So why bring it up?

hoodwinked

My daughter's face may fall when she rips off the Christmas paper expecting to see Barbie smiling back at her, but maybe one day, like me, she will realise that Lottie makes for a far better friend.

and this is imo what makes her a terrible parent,

she would rather upset her child at christmas to further her agenda than give her child the christmas toy they have asked santa for.

i cannot stand parents who live through their child, let them be children ffs they will be grown up soon enough direct them and parent them to make the right choices for themselves and then maybe they won't grow up to be a barbie.

going by her argument my husband should be trying to make his body resemble a lego brick....

bumper234

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

So why bring it up?

I didnt realise that this was a strictly babrie ONLY discussion.......oh wait....its not! :rolleyes:

ectoraige

Barbie dolls aren't evil, they are just a lump of plastic. However they are one of the first manifestations of the constant pressure put on females to base their self-esteem on ideals of beauty.

Legs.Eleven

bumper234 wrote: »

I didnt realise that this was a strictly babrie ONLY discussion.......oh wait....its not! :rolleyes:

Stark

Don't ask me, I'm just a girl.

ectoraige

hoodwinked wrote: »

and this is imo what makes her a terrible parent

No, a terrible parent fails to feed their child, fails to nurture them, berates, hits, and otherwise abuses their child.

she would rather upset her child at christmas to further her agenda than give her child the christmas toy they have asked santa for.

No, she's not furthering her agenda. She's weighing up the short-term benefits of gratification vs. the long-term consequences for her childs character. If we gave our children what they asked for, our daughter Sadhbh would be getting a magical necklace that she can whisper to to make people do what she wants, and will allow her to fly should the house go on fire. My seven-year-old son would be getting a Playstation, Xbox, and a mobile phone.

Just this afternoon Sadhbh was at a Christmas party and all the children received Christmas annuals. My daughter, being four, received one labelled "Girl, 2-4" and was immediately upset because she decided it was too babyish. She declared she didn't want it even before she had upwrapped it. Two hours later she was sitting at the kitchen table doing puzzles in it, and we read a story from it for bedtime.

i cannot stand parents who live through their child, let them be children ffs they will be grown up soon enough direct them and parent them to make the right choices for themselves and then maybe they won't grow up to be a barbie.

I cannot stand parents who are ruled by their child, let them be parents and make decisions that they feel are best for their children.

going by her argument my husband should be trying to make his body resemble a lego brick....

That's so ridiculously glib, I hardly know where to start. The primary way children play with Lego is through building and creating, and allowing the characters to interact with the environment the child has made. Barbie is predominantly about dressing and grooming the doll, with the emphasis on beauty and appearance. Interactive play with the dolls in limited by the fact they can barely even stand up without being held, with the child having to hold them. Lego encourages children to imagine what they can do, Barbie encourages child to imagine how they can look.

Killer Wench

I don't find Barbie to be the Devil. I believe the culture that pushes forth unhealthy or unrealistic expectations of beauty is the greater problem.

SparkySpitfire

Some people need to teach their children values themselves and not leave it up to toys to show them all they can be.

fussyonion

It annoys the hell out of me that some parents think Barbie is "inappropriate".
It's a bloody doll, for God sake.

I had Barbies growing up because I wanted them and they were all the go.
Parents bought them for their daughters because they made them HAPPY, they had hours and hours of fun with them and that's all it is..FUN.

People are so bloody PC these days.

Femme_Fatale

I had Barbies too - loved them. I can understand though, that writer questioning the way every Barbie is all pink and glittery and stiletto-wearing, even the ones that are firefighting and the like.

My fave Barbie I had as a kid, was this one - her outfit was office-wear for the day, and then you could turn it inside out to become a cocktail dress. It was the biz!

efb

ColeTrain wrote: »

She's an evil slut.

Ken is a legend.

ken is a eunuch

efb

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

What was the point of the Ken doll? Did he have a bionic eye? Did he have a power punch action? Did he have eagle eyes?

Why would Barbie marry Ken when Action Man was available?

Was Barbie in a secret lesbo affair with Sindy and using Ken as a beard?

she was going for the young ones so

Was Barbie involved in Operation Yew Tree?

bodice ripper

I would absolutely not buy a Barbie for a daughter. If she wants a tiny emblem of her own poor self esteem, she can ****ing learning to sculpt one!

efb

Im gonna buy my daughters the WAG Doll

fussyonion

bodice ripper wrote: »

I would absolutely not buy a Barrie for a daughter. If she wants a tiny emblem of her own poor self esteem, she can ****ing learning to sculpt one!

What if she wanted it? What if it was the only toy she wanted and all her friends had them?
What is the actual problem with Barbie?
You're essentially inflicting your own adult-minded beliefs on your daughter.
Your daughter wouldn't be thinking of Barbie as anything other than a fun doll to play with.

metaoblivia

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I had Barbies too - loved them. I can understand though, that writer questioning the way every Barbie is all pink and glittery and stiletto-wearing, even the ones that are firefighting and the like.

My fave Barbie I had as a kid, was this one - her outfit was office-wear for the day, and then you could turn it inside out to become a cocktail dress. It was the biz!

Yeah, same. I had Barbies too - loved to play with them. But I just went through and scrolled some of the outfits for current Barbies and most of them are short, tight, glittery pink dresses/skirts and lots of super high heels. I can understand where the writer is coming from. I also had a look at the Lottie dolls and they're quite cute and do offer more realistic outfit options that are still fashionable. I think the writer did an excellent job of finding a good alternative in this case. Her child will still get a fun doll to play with.

bodice ripper

fussyonion wrote: »

What if she wanted it? What if it was the only toy she wanted and all her friends had them?
What is the actual problem with Barbie?
You're essentially inflicting your own adult-minded beliefs on your daughter.
Your daughter wouldn't be thinking of Barbie as anything other than a fun doll to play with.

Says you. But we all know the current thinking is parent knows best. And I would be the parent. So there.

Seriously though, I would say she would make a good sculptor. Or an excellent thief. Either way, life skill acquired.

Femme_Fatale

metaoblivia wrote: »

Yeah, same. I had Barbies too - loved to play with them. But I just went through and scrolled some of the outfits for current Barbies and most of them are short, tight, glittery pink dresses/skirts and lots of super high heels.

Had a look now too - jeez, Barbie is way sexier today: much heavier make-up and totally lapdancing outfits/shoes!
I'm sure the manufacturers would balk at the suggestion of Stripper Barbie though. :pac:
They remind me of the gals in My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. In fairness, not all of the Barbies are that OTT looking however.

She's looking pretty hot here - but more like a doll replica of a lady in Playboy rather than a child's toy.

fussyonion

bodice ripper wrote: »

Says you. But we all know the current thinking is parent knows best. And I would be the parent. So there.

Seriously though, I would say she would make a good sculptor. Or an excellent thief. Either way, life skill acquired.

So would you have your child playing with a wooden train set or perhaps some good sensible books to read?

FameHungry

I wouldn't say they're evil, it's just a doll.

I loved Barbie but my favourites were the Swan Lake and Rapunzel dolls. I also got these magazines were they'd be about all of Barbie's adventures and having different jobs. Those were the good ol' days..

SparkySpitfire

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Had a look now too - jeez, Barbie is way sexier today: much heavier make-up and totally lapdancing outfits/shoes!
I'm sure the manufacturers would balk at the suggestion of Stripper Barbie though. :pac:
They remind me of the gals in My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. In fairness, not all of the Barbies are that OTT looking however.

She's looking pretty hot here - but more like a doll replica of a lady in Playboy rather than a child's toy.

Her hair...it's so luscious :eek:

bodice ripper

fussyonion wrote: »

So would you have your child playing with a wooden train set or perhaps some good sensible books to read?

It's what my parents did with me. I turned out fine-ish.

SparkySpitfire

FameHungry wrote: »

I wouldn't say they're evil, it's just a doll.

I loved Barbie but my favourites were the Swan Lake and Rapunzel dolls. I also got these magazines were they'd be about all of Barbie's adventures and having different jobs. Those were the good ol' days..

Mine too! And I had an Erica Princess and the Pauper doll http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31600000/Erika-from-Barbie-as-the-Princess-and-the-Pauper-cassidy86-31651758-500-500.jpg

Ahhh I love looking at dolls so much.

fussyonion

bodice ripper wrote: »

It's what my parents did with me. I turned out fine-ish.

Just because your parents bought you train sets and books doesn't mean the children of today want the same.

I totally get that you'd be trying to protect your child and I do see where you're coming from, but my opinion is that children don't see these dolls as anything other than harmless dolls.

I never for a minute thought of Barbie as anything other than a pretty doll to dress up and have fun with.

I never wanted to be her, I never compared myself to her..I would have been six, seven or eight years old and they were just the It toy of my generation.

I'm just trying to point out that kids are innocent and they don't see things the way we see them.
I didn't mean to come across nasty in my previous post, I'm just explaining how I see it.