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question on powerflushing,lads who have one nad use it frequently

what is your preferred type of flushing unit magnaclean/fernox machine/flowclean ect and why?

and what chemicals would you use?

what is best value for money and what to steer clear of.

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Gasherbraun

Hi.

I have learnt a bit about power flushing reading this.....do any of you cover the Celbridge area by any chance?

shane0007

One of the worst sludged gas boiler systems I have come across to date. Open vented.
I will post the thermal image camera images when I get a chance.

Dtp1979

shane0007 wrote: »

One of the worst sludged gas boiler systems I have come across to date. Open vented.
I will post the thermal image camera images when I get a chance.

How many of those did you get from the system Shane?

shane0007

3 plus what is flushed when dumped.
Every rad downstairs was solid blocked & 2 upstairs blocked. Every rad now clear & heating top to bottom.
I took some interesting images with the camera.

Without reverse flow, I wouldn't have been able to unblock them. Only when I put it in reverse did I get movement.

Sparkpea

how often would you guys flush? can be a tedious job sometimes

shane0007

Sparkpea wrote: »

how often would you guys flush? can be a tedious job sometimes

Every boiler swap over plus problem systems, so depending on time of year, 2 - 3 times per week.

Sparkpea

do you allow 2 days for a boiler install?

shane0007

Here are the thermal image pics of one of the rads....

All of the images are of the same rad but at each stage of the powerflushing process.

shane0007

Who can spot the problem with this rad, well 2 problems really?

Sparkpea

shane0007 wrote: »

Who can spot the problem with this rad, well 2 problems really?

sludge and needs bled?

Sparkpea

some piece of kit that flir shane!

*drools*

shane0007

Sparkpea wrote: »

do you allow 2 days for a boiler install?

Absolutely everytime. You cannot do a flush & boiler swap over in one day, well not properly in my opinion.

shane0007

Sparkpea wrote: »

sludge and needs bled?

Yup & nup. Well, nearly right but why does it need bleeding?

shane0007

Sparkpea wrote: »

some piece of kit that flir shane!

*drools*

The brilliant thing about it is you know exactly where the sludge is & more importantly, when you can move onto the next one.

rightjob!

shane0007 wrote: »

Who can spot the problem with this rad, well 2 problems really?

sludge and no water.

shane0007

Sparkpea wrote: »

sludge and needs bled?

Rad was off level & the bleed screw on the wrong end so it wouldn't bleed!
Your prize, a magnetic roller!!! Yeehaw...

Dtp1979

Sparkpea wrote: »

how often would you guys flush? can be a tedious job sometimes

I'm doing my third tomorrow. It is a tedious job, but rewarding when you get the better of a dirty system!

Dtp1979

shane0007 wrote: »

3 plus what is flushed when dumped.
Every rad downstairs was solid blocked & 2 upstairs blocked. Every rad now clear & heating top to bottom.
I took some interesting images with the camera.

Without reverse flow, I wouldn't have been able to unblock them. Only when I put it in reverse did I get movement.

Ye I find the reverse feature very useful too

Dtp1979

Sparkpea wrote: »

do you allow 2 days for a boiler install?

I usually do

Sparkpea

why would it matter what side the bleed screw was on? o_O

I was at a job yesterday with a new 40cdi classic regular and the towel rail wasn't heating, took it off and was like grit inside, I asked if the boys flushed the system when installing but she wasn't sure but they where away in a day so told her no chance then. charged her a fortune and now shes getting me to flush the system after xmas... 19 rads on system =[ 3 storey =[ must wear a pedometer that day!

have you set prices for flushing? I price per rad mainly but have a minimum charge, charge extra for link ups.

also seen a boyo advertising in local chippy, powerflushing from £100! hes either using a garden hose or thats £100 to get his machine outta the van

Dtp1979

Sparkpea wrote: »

why would it matter what side the bleed screw was on? o_O

I was at a job yesterday with a new 40cdi classic regular and the towel rail wasn't heating, took it off and was like grit inside, I asked if the boys flushed the system when installing but she wasn't sure but they where away in a day so told her no chance then. charged her a fortune and now shes getting me to flush the system after xmas... 19 rads on system =[ 3 storey =[ must wear a pedometer that day!

have you set prices for flushing? I price per rad mainly but have a minimum charge, charge extra for link ups.

also seen a boyo advertising in local chippy, powerflushing from £100! hes either using a garden hose or thats £100 to get his machine outta the van

I did a 3 story house yesterday. Stupidly I went for a 5k run before work too!!

Dtp1979

Sparkpea wrote: »

some piece of kit that flir shane!

*drools*

Probably a silly question Shane but can you use the flir when doing a cold flush?

shane0007

Sparkpea wrote: »

why would it matter what side the bleed screw was on? o_O

Because I once opened the blanking screw & it blew off & covered me in black sludge, along with everything else. I now turn off the rad, level & restart! :eek:

Sparkpea wrote: »

have you set prices for flushing? I price per rad mainly but have a minimum charge, charge extra for link ups.

Generally for powerflushing on its own without a boiler change, I charge €450 incl chemicals & vat for upto 10 rads. Larger systems, I would generally just charge for the extra chemicals upto a point. Very large or commercial systems would be priced on inspection.
I would discount when doing the boiler changeover. Additional repair works would be additional depending what would be found, unless it was just a small repair.

shane0007

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Probably a silly question Shane but can you use the flir when doing a cold flush?

No as there would be no point. Depending on the customer & their budget, I would cold flush, change the boiler & re-flush with new boiler & thermal image camera.

esox28

Best flushing tool ever....walkie talkie and a good fella at the other end.

Dtp1979

esox28 wrote: »

Best flushing tool ever....walkie talkie and a good fella at the other end.

Hey don't call him a tool. He's a co worker

shane0007

A new use found for the thermal image camera....
https://vine.co/v/hY2PPurVtxH

Egass13

shane0007 wrote: »

A new use found for the thermal image camera....
https://vine.co/v/hY2PPurVtxH

Haha that's brilliant

Dtp1979

shane0007 wrote: »

A new use found for the thermal image camera....
https://vine.co/v/hY2PPurVtxH

Jaysus how do you make money Shane when you're standing in front of a mirror playing with that flir camera!

shane0007

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Jaysus how do you make money Shane when you're standing in front of a mirror playing with that flir camera!

Erm... thermal image camera.... mirror.... where's the heat in the mirror?