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The price of pints is too damn high

Spore

The price of a pint in the capital has reached ridiculous levels! The pub is the cornerstone of our society and publicans are pricing themselves into oblivion. I realize that they have to make ends meet but how is it that some pubs can have promotion pints at 2.50 for an entire night and still make a profit? There must be some amount of mark up on the 5.60 pint I was paying for last night in Toners on Baggot St. I'm not going back to pubs where the cost of a pint of larger is more than five euro.

Boycott the Baggot Mile this year!!! Who's with me? Maybe a name and shame thread on the most expensive pint in Ireland?

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Jack Skellington

Beavishead wrote: »

The price of alcohol should go up. People should work more and consume less alcohol.

I'd say people consume so much because they work too much and too hard

hfallada

Im surprised no one is outraged at the price of cigarettes. Its now €9,50 for a packet of marlboro. Thats more than a hour of my wages. I almost died when I seen the person infront of me buying them yesterday.

kalych

Jack Skellington wrote: »

In that case I'd love to see some sort of special price for social hours like Friday and Saturday night, to entice the people who are otherwise having a few at home, that's what would get me out but as you say there's probably other factors, it's a shame anyway.

Happy hours have been made illegal by government legislation. Be it under lobby from the publicans or to fight binge drinking during these "social" hours, where a lot of people would all drink at the same time pressured to consume alcohol in a short designated "cheap drink" time period.

kryogen

There are reasons for high prices, high rates and rents being one. Water charges and other overheads also go into the price of the product. Its not actual as simple as Greedy publicans

Beavishead

I do not drink, smoke or do any illegal drugs. If more people were like me this would not be an issue.

Geuze

Rents are too high.

The rent on Quinn's pub in Drumcondra was 30,000 pm or 1,000 per day.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/landlord-locks-himself-in-bar-as-ibrc-swoops-on-indebted-pubs-28894967.html

These rents need to fall 90%.

Geuze

The brewers charge more in Ireland than elsewhere.

Guinness is made here, but sold into the Uk / NI at lower prices, as they have more competition.

The Aviva stadium catering case is well known:

http://www.noonecasey.ie/taxation-posts/news_roundup/drinking-in-the-aviva.html

893bet

Spore wrote: »

some pubs can have promotion pints at 2.50 for an entire night and still make a profit??

Who said they make a profit on that?

There is no pub that can do that longterm. It is impossible.

May be just barely feasible in the case of a small local pub who have zero costs (No loan, owner and wife do all the hours, no staff, no sports or racing subscription etc).

LordSutch

Geuze wrote: »

The brewers charge more in Ireland than elsewhere.

Guinness is made here, but sold into the Uk at lower prices, as they have more competition.

The Aviva stadium catering case is well known:

http://www.noonecasey.ie/taxation-posts/news_roundup/drinking-in-the-aviva.html

Very true, and I'm saying something similar in post #12.

Sleepy

If pints were cheaper I might be able to afford o go to the pub somewhat regularly. As it stands, I can only afford to go to a pub once in a blue moon.

Capt'n Midnight

Geuze wrote: »

The brewers charge more in Ireland than elsewhere.

Guinness is made here, but sold into the Uk / NI at lower prices, as they have more competition.

The Aviva stadium catering case is well known:

http://www.noonecasey.ie/taxation-posts/news_roundup/drinking-in-the-aviva.html

A 50l keg of Guinness costs publicans €131.66 but the ex-duty price of the same keg to the on-trade in the UK is €66 – a whopping 50% less. Even allowing for payment of Irish duty for re-importing a keg, this would rise to €99.33, which would still make it more than worthwhile for a large company like Compass to do so.

50L = 88 pints. At €99.33 that's €1.13 a pint. Add 21% VAT and it's €1.49

OK can't get 88 pints out of Guinness out of a keg but still....

Mocha Joe

Beavishead wrote: »

I do not drink, smoke or do any illegal drugs. If more people were like me this would not be an issue.

Jaysus I'd hate it if more people were like you.

Temptamperu

Nobody's forcing you to buy it.

drdeadlift

Temptamperu wrote: »

Nobody's forcing you to buy it.

But its still worth discussing.

catallus

Temptamperu wrote: »

Nobody's forcing you to buy it.

Capitalist Swine: always ensuring that the working man always has to pay as much as humanly possible for the things he needs to survive!

Benteke

Smokes €9.50 Pint €5.00+

We live in a nanny state, If you vote and it does not go the govs way they tell you to do it again until you get it right

You get more rights in North Korea at least the North Koreans are up front about it

djPSB

They need to close the price difference between buying alcohol in an off licence and buying it in a pub to meet somewhere in the middle. Buying alcohol in an off licence is too cheap at the minute, while the price of alcohol in a pub is ridiculous.

I'd be happy if the average can of beer cost €3 or so in an off licence and you could buy a pint in a pub for €3.50.

Ghost Buster

djPSB wrote: »

They need to close the price difference between buying alcohol in an off licence and buying it in a pub to meet somewhere in the middle. Buying alcohol in an off licence is too cheap at the minute, while the price of alcohol in a pub is ridiculous.

I'd be happy if the average can of beer cost €3 or so in an off licence and you could buy a pint in a pub for €3.50.

How can any consumer product be too cheap?

Seaneh

In Athlone a rake if bars are able to charge €11 for any 3 draught beers.

In Dublin you'd be lucky to get 2 for that price.

djPSB wrote: »

They need to close the price difference between buying alcohol in an off licence and buying it in a pub to meet somewhere in the middle. Buying alcohol in an off licence is too cheap at the minute, while the price of alcohol in a pub is ridiculous.

I'd be happy if the average can of beer cost €3 or so in an off licence and you could buy a pint in a pub for €3.50.

It is not too cheap! When I was in Amsterdam you could buy 1l of Absolut Vodka for €15 in some off licenses.

beano345

djPSB wrote: »

They need to close the price difference between buying alcohol in an off licence and buying it in a pub to meet somewhere in the middle. Buying alcohol in an off licence is too cheap at the minute, while the price of alcohol in a pub is ridiculous.

I'd be happy if the average can of beer cost €3 or so in an off licence and you could buy a pint in a pub for €3.50.

Alcohol in supermarkets is nearly at wholesale prices, bulmers are doing 6 cans for a tenner multipacks if bought individually its a big difference plus the 20 bottle case of bud miller etc you can get for fcuk all in tesco think they were doing specials at 15 euro for 20 bottles at some stage what's a bottle cost In a pub? 5 euro?

maryishere

Mars Bar wrote: »

I paid £1.50 for a pint of Bud in a bowling alley in Preston on Thursday night. I was nearly crying in to it with happiness for having such a cheap pint and in despair for how badly we're ripped off over here.

the tax take alone here on a pint between all the various taxes must be a lot more than the whole pint costs in England. What does our government do with all these taxes?

catallus

I picked up 200mls of liqueur in an offie for €9.99.

In a pub a 35ml shot would cost €4.50, minimum.

So 5.7 ish shots in 200ml bottle. Let's say 5.

So €22.50 for 200mls in a pub, €9.99 in an offie.

How can this level of margin be justified? Without saying fcuk you, buy it and shut up.

Cienciano

Stop going to the pubs if it's too bloody expensive. It's the only way the publican will learn.
And never mind pints, the price of soft drinks and spirits are a disgrace.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Haven't been to a pub bar a birthday event in years. It's a shame I really enjoy the pub with my mates buts it's just too expensive. Publicans either seem oblivious or just don't give a ****.

Capt'n Midnight

djPSB wrote: »

They need to close the price difference between buying alcohol in an off licence and buying it in a pub to meet somewhere in the middle. Buying alcohol in an off licence is too cheap at the minute, while the price of alcohol in a pub is ridiculous.

You do realise that you pay the same VAT and excise duty in the off license as in the pub.

Aldi will sell you 6L of Galahad 3.9% for €9.49 ( and up to 20% less if you use the coupons ) Same alcohol content as 10 pints of 4.2% Guinness to give you an idea of how much of the price in a pub isn't made up of tax or producing the product.
You could argue that Guinness costs more to make but I'd point out that Aldi have much higher transport and packaging costs and make a profit.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/pub-sales-fall-as-people-switch-to-drinking-at-home-191981.html

DIGI chairman Kieran Tobin said the bar trade was now operating at only 70% of its 2007 levels, which had marked a peak of the market

http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=19880

Drinking at home ‘now constitutes more than 50% of alcohol consumption in Ireland, up from 30% a few years ago'.

up for anything

Spore wrote: »

The pub is the cornerstone of our society

That's why our society has gone to the dogs!

Capt'n Midnight

SV wrote: »

It is not too cheap! When I was in Amsterdam you could buy 1l of Absolut Vodka for €15 in some off licenses.

Shop around and you could probably get 95% alcohol for that price.

LordSutch

catallus wrote: »

I picked up 200mls of liqueur in an offie for €9.99.

What the hell is Liqueur in this context? you mean like Liqueurs or Port, or what?

Geuze

maryishere wrote: »

the tax take alone here on a pint between all the various taxes must be a lot more than the whole pint costs in England. What does our government do with all these taxes?

Note that beer duty was higher in the UK, and lower in Ireland, at least until the Budget.

It's the brewers, not the excise duty.