Balaclava1991 wrote: » When I talked to women in the past my conversations would often go like this: Him: "Hi." (nervous). Her: Oh...hi... Him: Ah..er...ahh..I saw you just now and I thought you were really nice and I wanted to talk to you. Her: Oh..ahh...thanks (Giggles). Him: What do you do? Her: I'm an artist. Him: Cool. Where are you from? Her: Switzerland. (sighs) Him: That's nice. And what do you do for fun? Her: I go to the cinema...ah...listen...Very nice to talk to you. I gotta go. My friends are waiting. I'll see you around (vexed) Him: Ohhh...yeah...bye..(tearful) A guy who knows what he is talking about would have been able to create a long conversation and built a rapport. If a girl tells you she is an artist, she is Swiss and she likes cinema then a guy is armed with lots to work with to draw her out and get her to talk about herself. If the guy focused on the artist angle he could get her to open up how she wants to express herself with art, how she sees the world, the paintings she has made, her favorite artists, the famous museums and artists she has seen, did she paint still life, is she free spirited, does she take risks, did she paint nude men at art college, does she want to paint another man nude... If the guy focused on the Switzerland you could get her talk about chocolate, money, cuckoo clocks, mountain climbing, Lake Geneva, the great outdoors, the German and French languages, skiing, how much she likes men who yodel and men in leather shorts... If the guy focused on the cinema you could get her talking about movies she likes, her favourite romantic movies, her biggest movie star crush, would she like to be an actress, would she do nude scenes...
Balaclava1991 wrote: » I'm a real fan of patterns which are loaded with weasel phrases and embedded commands that subconsciously turn women on: For instance: Me: So, you have a boyfriend? Her: Not right now. Last one I broke up with a few months ago... how about you? Me: Yeah, same here. It was a beautiful relationship. Too bad it had to end the way it did... Its like... at first... we are so much in love. We feel that the whole world is revolving around us... you know what it's like to FEEL TOTALLY IN LOVE, don't you? We're like that (gesture back and forth). It's like, when we look at each other's eyes (look into her eyes)... we can see... into each other's soul... and we can SEE... and... FEEL... that love... burning within the both of us... warm and close enough to touch (touch her forearm, or a non-touching gesture towards her chest)... and that bond between us... really so strong... so powerful... so overwhelming... It does become that way at times, now doesn't it? Or You : Well, we're adult's now, aren't we? We can talk about sex in an intelligent way, can't we ? Her : Uhhh...yeah... You : Well....how do you VIEW SEX NOW. (?) (shut up and let her talk) You : I agree. And I think that SEX is much more than that. It's human nature! SEX ensures that our species will survive and that's why SEX IS PROGRAMMED DEEPLY... INSIDE... YOUR MINE. It's like... there's this voice (pause, point to your own mouth or throat... hahaha... ambiguity) inside YOUR MINE, which is actually, your vocalized URGES and DESIRES... and as you LISTEN TO THIS VOICE, it's telling you... YOU WANNA HAVE SEX, YOU WANNA HAVE SEX... YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX.... YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX. NOW, WITH ME, this is all so natural! You may not ACT ON IT, or JUST DO IT, but the point is, it's a DESIRE... a natural, AROUSING URGE... ME, I TAKE THIS IN (point to dick)... with an open mind. I don't know if you have OPENED YOURSELF UP (open leg gesture*) to things (point to dick) like these." open leg gesture - join both palms, point palms towards her legs, then separate them on cue. There's load more of these patterns which hide really smutty stuff within otherwise harmless conversation. I swear by them!:)
Muise... wrote: » Very nice to talk to you. I gotta go. My friends are waiting. I'll see you around.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » You... do? If a guy started using the above weird tactics with me I'd run a mile. A guy overcoming shyness does NOT mean resorting to the above slime.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » I think being dismissive of guys who find it hard to talk to women is unhelpful though, and just aids in creating polarisation and hostility, and drawing these guys to the crazy misogynists.
Balaclava1991 wrote: »
Wibbs wrote: » I'm a bloke and I'm getting the creepy shivers. *shudder* Jesus. If I caught some geezer trying this kinda thing on with women I knew, it would be all I could do not to lift them out of it in the direction of the door. Then again if any woman with half a brain fell for this kinda guff, I'd suggest she's in dire need of care in the community.
Steo1885 wrote: » Hi guys, new to boards, just moved to dublin from mayo. read the game by neil strauss a few months ago and was wondering if anybody here has read it and what do they think?
Balaclava1991 wrote: » In this video the British magician Derren Brown demonstrates how PUA works. Derren Brown is gay by the way. The subtle psychology is broken down step by step.
Balaclava1991 wrote: » When I talked to women in the past my conversations would often go like this: Him: "Hi." (nervous). Her: Oh...hi... Him: Ah..er...ahh..I saw you just now and I thought you were really nice and I wanted to talk to you. Her: Oh..ahh...thanks (Giggles). Him: What do you do? Her: I'm an artist. Him: Cool. Where are you from? Her: Switzerland. (sighs) Him: That's nice. And what do you do for fun? Her: I go to the cinema...ah...listen...Very nice to talk to you. I gotta go. My friends are waiting. I'll see you around (vexed) Him: Ohhh...yeah...bye..(tearful) A guy who knows what he is talking about would have been able to create a long conversation and built a rapport. If a girl tells you she is an artist, she is Swiss and she likes cinema then a guy is armed with lots to work with to draw her out and get her to talk about herself. If the guy focused on the artist angle he could get her to open up how she wants to express herself with art, how she sees the world, the paintings she has made, her favorite artists, the famous museums and artists she has seen, did she paint still life, is she free spirited, does she take risks, did she paint nude men at art college, does she want to paint another man nude... If the guy focused on the Switzerland you could get her talk about chocolate, money, cuckoo clocks, mountain climbing, Lake Geneva, the great outdoors, the German and French languages, skiing, how much she likes men who yodel and men in leather shorts... If the guy focused on the cinema you could get her talking about movies she likes, her favorite romantic movies, her biggest movie star crush, would she like to be an actress, would she do nude scenes... I'm a real fan of patterns which are loaded with weasel phrases and embedded commands that subconsciously turn women on: For instance: Me: So, you have a boyfriend? Her: Not right now. Last one I broke up with a few months ago... how about you? Me: Yeah, same here. It was a beautiful relationship. Too bad it had to end the way it did... Its like... at first... we are so much in love. We feel that the whole world is revolving around us... you know what it's like to FEEL TOTALLY IN LOVE, don't you? We're like that (gesture back and forth). It's like, when we look at each other's eyes (look into her eyes)... we can see... into each other's soul... and we can SEE... and... FEEL... that love... burning within the both of us... warm and close enough to touch (touch her forearm, or a non-touching gesture towards her chest)... and that bond between us... really so strong... so powerful... so overwhelming... It does become that way at times, now doesn't it? Or You : Well, we're adult's now, aren't we? We can talk about sex in an intelligent way, can't we ? Her : Uhhh...yeah... You : Well....how do you VIEW SEX NOW. (?) (shut up and let her talk) You : I agree. And I think that SEX is much more than that. It's human nature! SEX ensures that our species will survive and that's why SEX IS PROGRAMMED DEEPLY... INSIDE... YOUR MINE. It's like... there's this voice (pause, point to your own mouth or throat... hahaha... ambiguity) inside YOUR MINE, which is actually, your vocalized URGES and DESIRES... and as you LISTEN TO THIS VOICE, it's telling you... YOU WANNA HAVE SEX, YOU WANNA HAVE SEX... YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX.... YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX. NOW, WITH ME, this is all so natural! You may not ACT ON IT, or JUST DO IT, but the point is, it's a DESIRE... a natural, AROUSING URGE... ME, I TAKE THIS IN (point to dick)... with an open mind. I don't know if you have OPENED YOURSELF UP (open leg gesture*) to things (point to dick) like these." open leg gesture - join both palms, point palms towards her legs, then separate them on cue. There's load more of these patterns which hide really smutty stuff within otherwise harmless conversation. I swear by them!:)
bnt wrote: » There is a Gentlemen's Club forum ... but anything related to Pick-Up Artists (PUA) is explicitly banned in the Charter thread. Which should give you some idea of where Strauss's book is viewed by sensible men.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » Nothin' subtle about your approach! And meh, there are stupid women out there - when there are idiots who "love bad boys - heeeheeheeeHEE!" there are bound to be ones who fall for this stuff too.
sue_me wrote: » no it says more about how his book is viewed by PC liberals , the equality police loathe the idea of scoring chicks like the " rat pack " did back in the day
Legs.Eleven wrote: » I've genuinely never cringed so much reading a post on Boards in all my life. I was PUAed in the park a few weeks ago and I literally had to jog to get away from him. I understand many men have problems with women and I pity the decent ones but PUA is creepy and personally, if I suspected a man was using such techniques, I'd run a mile. I suppose I'm not all women though and it must work on some although you'd wonder how these women can't see through what a total act it is. It'd be nice if there was an alternative to PUA that focused on treating women like human beings and equals.
Vitaliorange wrote: » There is, its called PUA. You are generalising that all PUA is the same.
Balaclava1991 wrote: » When I talked to women in the past my conversations would often go like this: Him: "Hi." (nervous). Her: Oh...hi... Him: Ah..er...ahh..I saw you just now and I thought you were really nice and I wanted to talk to you. Her: Oh..ahh...thanks (Giggles). Him: What do you do? Her: I'm an artist. Him: Cool. Where are you from? Her: Switzerland. (sighs)
kowloon wrote: » Him: So... What's with all that Nazi gold?
seenitall wrote: » To be fair to sue me, the Rat Pack boys were entirely of their time, where women belonged in either the kitchen or at the "secretary" desk (a la Mad Men). They called women broads and slapped them on the behinds with relish and impunity.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » And sue_me thinks all the above is great, and the only people who'd object to it are crazy feminazis. I don't mind the term "broads" though - or even a slap on the arse (when it's done jokingly by friends :pac:) yet the likes of that poster would probably view me as a feminazi.
seenitall wrote: » Ah yes, unhappily for sue me, it's 2013, not 1963. Poor sue me.
Balaclava1991 wrote: » This diagram sums up the step by step process that is involved in seduction:http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/17/03/22/66/dibujo11.png
The man approaches a set, runs an opener, and reaches the Social Hook Point
