Godge wrote: » Read my post again. Two articles, one of which is reuters, does not make the group still active. The are volcanoes dormant for hundreds of years who get more publicity.
20Cent wrote: » They just wrote off 15 m in debt. How is that not active surely doing that required some action!
Jonny7 wrote: » They raised 40,000 dollars to garner attention and help a bank pay off some random medical debt My local Oxfam is more "active" than Occupy in that regard.
Godge wrote: » You can cook food on top of some volcanoes, how is that not active? Look, one initiative, which looks like them spending whatever money they had left on a pointless attempt to get publicity, does not make an active organisation.
20Cent wrote: » 400, 000 you missed a zero.
Jonny7 wrote: » ****.. I thought it was 40k That's nearly half a million dollars, to make a PR statement about debt. They had no idea who's debt they bought before they actually got it, except that the majority was medical. What kind of message does this send? Don't pay off your debts?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Also it was random debt so for all they know they could have been paying for some banker's wife's boob job.
20Cent wrote: » Very unlikely since emergency rooms don't do boob jobs, wealthy people tend to have insurance, if they don't think they would not pay and ruin their credit rating? Also do banks sell the debts of wealthy people for pennies in the pound? Highly unlikely.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Emergency rooms? Where does it say this debt was only for procedures carried out in an emergency room?
Jonny7 wrote: » Sure I've had medical debt because I forgot to pay one bill, then moved house. My debt, my responsibility I am sure there were some genuine cases in the batch they bought - but I'm also sure they bailed out a few drug users, drug dealers, students, irresponsible people, people who didn't bother to pay to insure themselves.. and of course the non-medical debt they bought up, which could be fraudsters, scams, people maxing out credit cards and so on They used the whole thing for self gratifying PR and, according to the Guardian article, as some sort of rallying cry against the notion of debt itself - which is dumber than a bag of hammers
20Cent wrote: » They have published where the debt was bought from its all online. Thought you knew all about this?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » You said all the medical debt they purchased was from procedures carried out in an emergency room. How do you know that?
20Cent wrote: » Its a totally transparent organisation, they published details of everything bought, they even publish the minutes of meetings, its all online. I bothered my arse finding out about it before commenting thats how I know.
20Cent wrote: » 15 million written off, I'd say the people involved were pretty happy about it.
Not exactly inactive doing nothing group are they?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » There's no way they could have these debts weren't cosmetic on anonymous markets. I have a very strong suspicion you've been caught out bull shítting.
Jonny7 wrote: » Paying off anyone's debts, including banks and corporations would make those people/entities happy
Jonny7 wrote: » They obviously perceive they've paid off some medical debt from struggling families.. as usual, the reality is, they don't know who's debt they bought. This strongly mirrors the group's misguided notions and general ignorance. They are very active in the random PR/attention-seeking department. Achieving results.. not so much.
20Cent wrote: » Did you have a look at the published information about what was bought? Its all on the web if one looks for it.
20Cent wrote: » Thought you guys knew all about it? Here's the link 20 seconds on google would have found it.http://rollingjubilee.org/transparency/
Iwasfrozen wrote: » That doesn't answer my question. How do you know you didn't pay for some banker's wife's boob job? It doesn't say anywhere because even they don't know.
20Cent wrote: » Think this has run full circle have explained how it was very unlikely at least twice already. If you are going to ignore any points made and just rant its pretty pointless. Why haven't they cured cancer is up next I suppose.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Very unlikely is it impossible?
Godge wrote: » Thanks for the link. The details of the largest purchase ($12m) shows that it is in respect of debts owed to hospitals and medical centres. This is exactly the point I made weeks ago on this thread that if the debt is from medical centres, it could well be for cosmetic procedures and surgery. The information requested does not provide the clarity requested. Try again please.
20Cent wrote: » Suppose its progress that your only arguement left is boobs.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » That's not an answer. Is it impossible?
