revisionist wrote: » The fact is that Waterford has historically been a garrison town largely unsympathetic to nationalist and by natural proression GAA ideals. When the first soldiers marched into Waterford after the withdrawal of the Devonshires they were spat upon and jeered by crowds of local people. Waterford was regarded as a hotbed of recruitment in the 1st world war and was regarded as only second to Belfast in loyalty to the crown. Generations of loyalty to the King OR Queen .The great Dan Fraher a staunch republican was the oldest internee in Ballykinlar Co Down and it would be a great tribute to him to establish the ground in the heart of the county. As for my title it is meant to be ironic...;)
wellboytoo wrote: » So you'd base your spending of 20 million plus on some historical titbit, are you Michael Fingelton ?
Dickys Back Garden wrote: » You're a sad lad! But if you think such should determine the location of the county ground maybe you should go to your local library and investigate who Walsh Park honours! Or maybe google it like you have above! Your using of the above to justify the locating of a hurling stadium reinforces the folly of your argument as is embarrassing to most Western Gaels I should think!
revisionist wrote: » I am aware who he is , a successor of the great Dan . He was a minor enough County chairman but Fraher, who was Walsh’s immediate predecessor as Waterford County Board chairman, was also GAA trustee for many years, and, as guarantor, was mainly responsible for the purchase of ‘the Jones Road Field’, now Páirc an Chrócaigh, in 1913. Dónal Ó Fearachair from Touraneena was famous for his athletic and administrative feats (not to mention refereeing two All-Ireland finals on the same day in 1892) ever before he leased the Shandon lands from Captain Richard Curran and family. Is this enough for you? Fraher, with all due respect to Walsh who did play a relatively important part in the early to mid history of the GAA, was the political and sporting heavyweight..............[/QUOTE As an "ironic revisionist" thought maybe you might be interested in his republican credentials since they seem to form the basis for your arguments! So maybe dig a little deeper! Funny too you should mention Croke Park-by your twisted logic the stadium shouldn't be located on Jones' Road in Dublin-would be far better away from the Pale and the city of such imperialistic and aristocratic loyalties in our history! Population base and economic arguments must be irrelevant, let's examine it's history! "Shoneen" indeed!
revisionist wrote: » Actually I was responding to the hysterical cry of a previous post . My basis for spending the money is based on logic , something sadly lacking in your argument
revisionist wrote: » You want it near the""main population"" What does that exactly mean ? It should be central full stop not located at the eastern most part of the county in a shoneen heartland.
The_Shotz wrote: » On waterford citys front the pros are... Large population, the majority of which have never and will never go to a match. When was the last time you saw a full Walsh Park? Accessibility (train station, airport)irrelevant for the majority of people living in County Waterford Regular bus services Road network (motorway, new city bypass) Relevant for those living in Kilmeadan Possibilty of linking up with WIT where the national hurling & camogie development centre is based. I fear they've missed the boat on this one Services provided to travelling supporters (more hotels, guesthouses, b&b's etc...)don't know how relevant this is nowadays Large car parking areas for park and ride facilities large cost implications for this I would think Regional hospital located near by OK Larger variety of sports in the city. (For a 30/40k stadium to be sustainable in county Waterford it can not soley depend on just GAA, it would have to look at also possibly holding, rugby, soccer etc which also have large followings in Waterford.)
tonc76 wrote: » I don't think a 30k/40k stadium would ever be sustainable
7upfree wrote: » Ah, WTF. Seriously.
7upfree wrote: » Only have a passing interest in the GAA, but, having read this, it's like the old Germany. East vs West. Until they move past that they are at nothing. They could have sold both grounds during the boom and made a killing. A new stadium could have been built around Kilmac or somewhere. They couldn't even agree on that. And now it's too late.
revisionist wrote: » .SIMPLES
revisionist wrote: » You want it near the""main population"" What does that exactly mean ? .
The_Shotz wrote: » I believe your right tom, Martin Cullen gave a grant of 2.5 million I think to city funds for Walsh Park for flood lights and terracing I think and the County board refused to accept it as they wanted the funds split 50/50 between dungarvan and waterford so waterford lost out on the funding as it was only a city based project!!!
