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What bad facts about good people and good facts about bad people do you know?

IvaBigWun

One bad fact about someone usually held in good regard: Gandhi refused to let his dying wife take penicillin yet took quinine to save himself.

One good fact about someone usually held with disdain: Hitler stabilized the German economy and eliminated foreign debt.

The latter is the only positive I can gleam from the history of an undoubtedly evil b@stard btw.

What bad facts about good people and good facts about bad people do you know?

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Legs.Eleven

You're one thread started....twisted thread starter, OP.

Sugar Free

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

You're one thread started....twisted thread starter, OP.

He's prolific! Although they always get good discussions going to be fair.

Sir Osis of Liver.

William Shatner launched his own range of ladies underwear and called them Shatnerpants.

Legs.Eleven

Sugar Free wrote: »

He's prolific! Although they always get good discussions going to be fair.

I won't disagree! Someone's gotta do it!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

obama once pretended to be a decent human being

dont know if that's a good fact or just a lie..

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Joseph Kony 2012 used to collect money to save orphan children from poverty and death but then he used them for his own private army to murder people.

Swings and roundabouts.

KONY 2012. I BELIEVE!!!

NuckingFacker

Irelands most vilified pimp is actually very well liked by his "ho's" and is quite a nice and intelligent person, despite his nick-name in the press. And I'm not actually even vaguely scangery despite my user-name. Pretty much the opposite. (No-one said it had to be someone famous)

IvaBigWun

'Dubious' care of the sick, 'questionable' politics and 'suspicious' financial dealings: Researchers claim Mother Teresa was not so saintly after all

The late Mother Teresa’s saintly image has been called into question by researchers conducting an in-depth study of her life.

Mother Teresa may have spent her life looking after the sick and poor, but researchers from Montreal and Ottawa universities have now raised questions over the ‘dubious’ nature of her care, as well querying her “questionable” political contacts.

The researchers also raised concerns over the Nobel Peace Prize winner’s ‘suspicious’ financial arrangements, which saw large sums of money transferred into ‘secret’ bank accounts.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/dubious-care-of-the-sick-questionable-politics-and-suspicious-financial-dealings-researchers-claim-mother-teresa-was-not-so-saintly-after-all-29107530.html

NuckingFacker

IvaBigWun wrote: »

'Dubious' care of the sick, 'questionable' politics and 'suspicious' financial dealings: Researchers claim Mother Teresa was not so saintly after all

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/dubious-care-of-the-sick-questionable-politics-and-suspicious-financial-dealings-researchers-claim-mother-teresa-was-not-so-saintly-after-all-29107530.html

I thought you were going to confess to actually having a littlewun. Dissapointed.:D

returnNull

Sugar Free wrote: »

He's prolific! Although they always get good discussions going to be fair.

you think?

Quantity != Quality;

vitani

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

William Shatner launched his own range of ladies underwear and called them Shatnerpants.

That's amazing. Although I can't decide if it's a bad fact about a good person or a good fact about a bad person...

DEFTLEFTHAND

Good guy: Gandhi writing about the treatment of Indians -

"A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the native savages of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir."

Bad guys: The Kray twins gave large amounts of money to charity and held an annual Christmas party where they donated toys and food to needy families in their neighbourhood. There was a reason why they were so revered in the East End. It wasn't all fear.

NuckingFacker

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Good guy: Gandhi writing about the treatment of Indians -

"A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the native savages of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir."

Bad guys: The Kray twins gave large amounts of money to charity and held an annual Christmas party where they donated toys and food to needy families in their neighbourhood. There was a reason why they were so revered in the East End. It wasn't all fear.

Naah, it was money..and fear.

Sunglasses Ron

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

obama once pretended to be a decent human being

..

I wish I was trendy enough to join the anti Obama bandwagon. The same wagon as the pro Obama bandwagon of 2008. Just repainted.

Bad- despite being one of the biggest twats in the game John Terry is apparently very approachable and amicable to fans and photo hunters.

Good- Savile raising money for charity I guess, although it was plainly obvious to anyone with workable eyes and ears he was an utter c'unt even before the scandal broke.

Paramite Pie

In fairness OP, Hitler stabilized the German economy using some artificial means. He racked up even more debt as well.

1. Women were banned from working (many women were teachers, nurses, civil servants). By not including women in the workforce this automatically creates more employment for men, even though you now have many unemployed women. But Hitler said their place is "in the home" so they were not included in unemployment figures.

2. 200,000 non-German (mostly Jewish) people fired from jobs to create jobs for German men. Many more put in camps freeing up jobs for loyal Aryans. Yeah economic genius.:rolleyes:

3. Compulsory 2 years military service, unpaid except for food, shelter and a little bit of 'pocket money'.

4. Loss of many worker rights/freedoms. The National Labour Service was set up to manage employment. You could not leave your job or get a new one without government approval. Employers were tightly regulated and it was almost impossible to fire someone, even lousy employees, hampering productivity. Many State owned companies dominated the economy.

5. Government income has been 10 billion Marks in 1928. In 1939 it was 15 billion. However government spending has increased from 12 billion in 1928 to over 30 billion in 1939. From 1933 to 1939, Hitler spent more than it earned so the debt was over 40 billion marks by the time he went to war. Hitler did not eradicate debt, he simply convinced the public that he had.

6. Although Hitler did create many new jobs, he cut trade with the outside world dramatically, meaning many basic necessities had to be rationed by the German people. Cars were mass produced and made affordable but petrol became scarce. New cars were of little use with such tight resources.

7. Many of these jobs (like the Autobahn) were carried out by the Reich Labour force, in which men aged between 18 and 24 had to serve six months (before their military service) of cheap, poorly paid labour.

8. Involuntary Euthanasia solved any pension problems by killing the elderly in the T4 program.

So Hitler's miracle economy was not as great as he claimed but it was still impressive considering the circumstances. Even without the war, Hitler would've broke the economy eventually, he was paying companies with IOU's called Mefo bills.

IvaBigWun

Al Capone: opened up soup kitchens and homeless shelters with his own money in Chicago during the great depression.

stefan idiot jones

Like myself, Mr. Hitler was a vegetarian and dog lover.

however...Brian O'Driscoll is a corpse crunching, murdering bastard.

Am I doing this right ?

IvaBigWun

Mike Tyson

The Good: The most entertaining boxer of our generation

The Bad: Beat his wife up and was fond of biting people's ears off

mattjack

Enda Kenny

Met him twice in the space of a year through my employment.

First time , came across as an arrogant half wit.

Second time , genuinely interested in the service users and staff of where I work.

Pen.Island

Sugar Free wrote: »

He's prolific! Although they always get good discussions going to be fair.

They are the most innocent threads ever.

I'd say he'd be embarassed if people who knew him in real life saw them.

And then he continues to post during his own thread in response to his own OP.