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Hi Had a letter from Social Protection inviting me to participate on a TUS Programme. I have done an internet search and there seems to be very little "chatter" about it from people who have been on it, does anyone have any experience of it? I know how much it pays and a broad idea of what type of jobs etc, but would like some first hand experience from people in the know. Sounds a bit like a CE Scheme.

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jos22

danjo-xx wrote: »

This looks very like you are being stopped €9.60 4% USC (198.40+9.60= €208 and looks like Payroll dept is not aware of this exemption, same thing happeneded me, two years in a row...but I got back money when I made then aware of it.

Under 'deductions' on your pay slip is usc €9.60 there or does it say something else.

just checked my pay slip it has tax 9.60 PRSI 0 USC 0

danjo-xx

jos22 wrote: »

do you ever get the full 208 euro payment, seem to get 198.40 every week instead

This looks very like you are being stopped €9.60 4% USC (198.40+9.60= €208 and looks like Payroll dept is not aware of this exemption, same thing happeneded me, two years in a row...but I got back money when I made then aware of it.

Under 'deductions' on your pay slip is usc €9.60 there or does it say something else.

Income exempt from the USC

You do not pay the Universal Social Charge if your total income for a year is under €10,036. (If you are 70 or over or a medical card holder under 70 and your aggregate income for the year is €60,000 or less you pay a reduced rate of USC.)

All Department of Social Protection payments, including Maternity Benefit and State pensions, are exempt from the Universal Social Charge. Similar payments, such as payments made as part of Community Employment schemes or the Back to Education Allowance, are exempt. Social welfare or similar payments made from abroad are exempt. Student grants and scholarships are also exempt.

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jos22 wrote: »

do you ever get the full 208 euro payment, seem to get 198.40 every week instead

Just ask your Supervisor. It should say what, if any deductions have been made. It's possible that you may be paying PRSI, Income Tax or Union fee, depending on your circumstances. Your Supervisor will be able to look into it for you.

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jos22 wrote: »

do you ever get the full 208 euro payment, seem to get 198.40 every week instead

It depends on what age you are. Payment on TUS Scheme is an additional 20 euro on top of your standard dole payment. If your standard dole payment is 178.40 a week, then you TUS payment is correct.

jos22

gamer_Niall wrote: »

Hello,
I got a letter for this Tus programme and have a meeting with them next week.

I have done some voluntary work in my local community center/sports hall and was wondering if I told them about this would they put me on work placement there?

Also wondering is it the social welfare that pays you or Tus or the Jon they send you on.

Thanks

My tus supervisor told me if i knew any place that could offer me work in what would suit me, get them to contact him and he get the paper work sorted so I could do my 12 month with them, once they meet the TUS criteria they be no issues.

as far as payment the place that runs the scheme in your area will pay you into the bank every week and post out a payslip to you each week too

jos22

do you ever get the full 208 euro payment, seem to get 198.40 every week instead

Hawksticks

CarrieLee
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I wasn't told anything about being offered a course to do along with the Tus placement. Do you have any more info on this?

Is this another new thing they've brought in?[/B]

They just said that i could do a course if i wanted to near the end of my placement, and they would pay for it. Sounded like i did'nt have to take them up on it do.

MouseTail

gamer_Niall wrote: »

Hello,
I got a letter for this Tus programme and have a meeting with them next week.

I have done some voluntary work in my local community center/sports hall and was wondering if I told them about this would they put me on work placement there?

Thanks

Definitely tell the Placement Officer about this, they will then conact the Centre and ask them to participate.

gamer_Niall

Hello,
I got a letter for this Tus programme and have a meeting with them next week.

I have done some voluntary work in my local community center/sports hall and was wondering if I told them about this would they put me on work placement there?

Also wondering is it the social welfare that pays you or Tus or the Jon they send you on.

Thanks

CarrieLee

dubscribe wrote: »

Unfortunately, that's true.

Once upon a time I used to get paid directly into my bank account as I do now, since I'm on a TUS programme. However, prior to my joining TUS, the social welfare changed my payment method, from into my bank account to having to sign on at the Post Office every week.

It was decided it was a better way of stopping fraudulent claims by people living overseas and only flying back to Ireland once every 3 months to sign on at their local dole office.

It's not too bad though. Although you are allocated a specific day on which to go and collect your dole money from the Post Office, in fact the PO holds your money for 3 days. If, by the end of the day 3, you haven't claimed your money then your payment is returned to the social welfare.

Thanks for the info. I never had any contact about changing to a post office payment when I was on welfare, which is why I'm so clueless about this whole thing. I always got paid into my bank account. However, I was just reading an article which stated that the Government is thinking of introducing ePayments as a method of Social Welfare payments, so maybe they are doing an about turn on this. Who knows.

My problem isn't being in the same place every week to have to collect money - it's dealing with the inevitable twenty questions from the nosy postmistress! Live in a rural area where everyone wants to know your business etc.

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Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Not true!

Last year I did JobBridge, finished in Nov 2012 and signed on. again. Mind you, I was initially furious when I got the letter to attend for a TUS interview. I felt I'd "served my time" and because they now "had me on the list" that I was targeted for TUS.

Regardless, it all worked out really well - I love my TUS job and when I finish next Sept, I will be eligible for JobBridge again (you have to wait 2 years before you can complete another JobBridge role, it's a 3 year wait to go on another TUS programme). I'm hoping I will be able to sign up for JobBridge, doing my current community work but getting paid 50 euro a week instead of the 20 euro I'm currently getting. The chances of my getting a real job are seriously limited since I am mature and I live is a rural village and have to rely on public transport.

Anyway, my point is, I was signing on from Nov 2012 until Sept 2013, when I started my TUS job.

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CarrieLee wrote: »

Does anyone know if once the Tus placement is up and I go sign on if my social welfare payment will be paid via the same method as before i.e. into my bank account.

I've heard something about new claims no longer being paid into bank accounts; been told that you now have to go to the post offices every week to collect money. Anyone have info on this?

Unfortunately, that's true.

Once upon a time I used to get paid directly into my bank account as I do now, since I'm on a TUS programme. However, prior to my joining TUS, the social welfare changed my payment method, from into my bank account to having to sign on at the Post Office every week.

It was decided it was a better way of stopping fraudulent claims by people living overseas and only flying back to Ireland once every 3 months to sign on at their local dole office.

It's not too bad though. Although you are allocated a specific day on which to go and collect your dole money from the Post Office, in fact the PO holds your money for 3 days. If, by the end of the day 3, you haven't claimed your money then your payment is returned to the social welfare.

Madman2

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Their getting rid of these too , i was on one of these and had recently to change to the post office arrangement also, saying they were fazing out all direct bank payments.

CarrieLee

jos22 wrote: »

no course with TUS, just show up do your time the dole figures are down for year till you switch back over to the official firgures after competing TUS

That's what I thought, but:

Originally Posted by Hawksticks

You will be offered a course to do 6 months into your Tus placement of your choice to complete along with Tus job.

CarrieLee

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I think the poster is asking how will they get paid after TUS, I would say post office. I cant see them making an exception.

So, you can't get paid directly into bank account anymore?

That's how I was getting my payment before.

Fred Swanson

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jos22

CarrieLee wrote: »

I wasn't told anything about being offered a course to do along with the Tus placement. Do you have any more info on this?

Is this another new thing they've brought in?

no course with TUS, just show up do your time the dole figures are down for year till you switch back over to the official firgures after competing TUS

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wmpdd3 wrote: »

I think the poster is asking how will they get paid after TUS, I would say post office. I cant see them making an exception.

Unless they are on a disability payment. That's paid into the bank.

wmpdd3

I think the poster is asking how will they get paid after TUS, I would say post office. I cant see them making an exception.

danjo-xx

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you get paid now? Don't all UB/UA payments be made in the Post Office? They go back to that system at the end of your placement.

Bank account.

13. How will participants be paid?
All participants will be paid directly into their bank accounts (EFT).

Fred Swanson

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[Deleted User]

CarrieLee wrote: »

Does anyone know if once the Tus placement is up and I go sign on if my social welfare payment will be paid via the same method as before i.e. into my bank account.

I've heard something about new claims no longer being paid into bank accounts; been told that you now have to go to the post offices every week to collect money. Anyone have info on this?

How do you get paid now? Don't all UB/UA payments be made in the Post Office? They go back to that system at the end of your placement.

CarrieLee

Does anyone know if once the Tus placement is up and I go sign on if my social welfare payment will be paid via the same method as before i.e. into my bank account.

I've heard something about new claims no longer being paid into bank accounts; been told that you now have to go to the post offices every week to collect money. Anyone have info on this?

CarrieLee

Hawksticks wrote: »

You will be offered a course to do 6 months into your Tus placement of your choice to complete along with Tus job.

Best of luck.

I wasn't told anything about being offered a course to do along with the Tus placement. Do you have any more info on this?

Is this another new thing they've brought in?

firefly919

Okay good stuff, thanks for the information.

Hawksticks

Just back from my interview there now. It was an individual one so i waited with the rest of the people to go in and talk to the man and woman. They were both really sound, told me that i wont have to do any of the things on the list i dont want to etc Minding the elderly and sweeping the streets. I asked to be placed minding the local soccer club, and they were happy with that. They chat to you for around 20 mins or so. Just the usual tell us about yourself and stuff. Have to wait around two months now to hear back from them.

So dont panic with your interview it will be grand just decide which job you would like to do before you go in, so you can explain to them why you want to do it. You will be offered a course to do 6 months into your Tus placement of your choice to complete along with Tus job.

Best of luck.

firefly919

Do let us know, thanks.
I have an interview Monday.

Hawksticks

I have a Tus interview in the morning i will let you all know how it goes. I hope i have some kind of choice of what i have to do.
Im also doing an eCollage online course through FAS dont know if this will affect Tus placement.

danjo-xx

badker wrote: »

I am currently on Tus, not through choice and am well educated. CV is fine. Just think the government instead of creating these token jobs should put more effort into sourcing some REAL employment for people. Placement is for 1 year 19.5 hours a week for €20 extra a week. 1014 hrs for €1040 over the year. Do you think saying you completed Tus for a year will luck good on a CV? Did you get a supervisors job.

There are two sides to these schemes,good and bad, it depends on what position you get or are pushed into after joining.

Being on a CE scheme prior to this recession was looked down on by many as just covering your back from welfare.

Nowadays its looked on as 'gold dust' the only 'job' in town and now highly qualified people, like ex solicitors and people with graduate degrees etc are seeking them.

I guarantee you won't see the likes of them cleaning the streets.

As regards the 'highlighted' text above.... when applying for a job you NEVER say that you are or have been on one them, you always say I was employed by ****** who ever sponsored the scheme.

I feel sorry for the folk who get the menial jobs on these schemes, and for €20 a week, its demeaning and degrading and in no way helps in building confidence in order to get back to work whenever it becomes available again.

badker

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you ever been approached to go on a TUS or other scheme? If you had, you would know that no one HAS to take up a placement if it is not suitable for them. You wouldn't get a 60 year old woman sweeping streets - unless she wanted! I had a blinkered view of FAS CE Schemes until I went on one. It was an eye opener! There were a number of participants with difficulties. Just working alongside them was an education in itself. If you go into something with an open mind, you will come out the better for it. If you are offered a placement, remember, it's only for a limited period of time and you never know, you just might enjoy it! A good supervisor knows their job and their staff and will know from experience when interviewing, who will benefit from a placement. Give it a chance. It may well be a way of massaging the unemployment figures, but you DO get valuable work experience to put on your CV. You also get to make new friends and new contacts.

I am currently on Tus, not through choice and am well educated. CV is fine. Just think the government instead of creating these token jobs should put more effort into sourcing some REAL employment for people. Placement is for 1 year 19.5 hours a week for €20 extra a week. 1014 hrs for €1040 over the year. Do you think saying you completed Tus for a year will luck good on a CV? Did you get a supervisors job.